One must admit, the Japanese are a peculiar group of people compared with other Asians. But at the root of their racist attitudes towards other Asians, do you think that the very ideas of self hate with white worship are at the heart of this?

Let us start with Japanese background and history, starting with the Meiji Restoration.

In 1868, the Japanese were afraid of being colonized, so a small group of leaders realized that they were behind the West and therefore tried to copy the West. One of the most radical ideas introduced was to eradicate the Japanese race by inviting white foreigners to "improve the race". Is this White Worship?

The Japanese tried to copy from the major european powers adopting Prussian school uniforms, foreign words "arubito" "pan" and others. They even decided to copy European powers by becoming a colonizer and took over large parts of Asia.

This continues to this day. If you look at Japanese fashion magazines they take photos of people from London, Paris, Milan, NY and LA. And then they try to emulate them. The japanese look for the best of american and european cultures and try to adopt their ways. Is this White Worship?

The Japanese were also the first Asian group to start "dyeing" their hair and doing whatever they could to look "more white". They tried colored contact lenses. They were also the first group to use Hollywood celebrities in asian ads.

Then in the early 90's, "travel fever' hit. Japanese traveled all over the earth trying to learn and emulate white cultures. Many Japanese moved to places like NYC. "Yellow cab" became a popular term for rich young japanese girls who would move abroad and spread their legs for practically any foreign man.

In modern day japan, the japanese display a very high degree of wanting to "europeanize" their country and almost every aspect of it. Of course, this is not an entirely bad thing. However, i do think that the Japanese carry it to a higher level and show less loyalty towards Asian cultures than say the Koreans.

The Japanese as a culture in general have a high degree of White Worshipping. Do you think that the Japanese hate for other Asian groups has its background rooted self hate/white worship?

Finally, i didn't write this to antagonize anyone here who is japanese-american.

You really have to blame the West for this I think. It's that whole colonial mentality - white is beautiful and better. Is Korea not the same way nowadays? Is Thailand not the same way? Is Philippines not the same way? Japan just had earlier contact with the west and was economically colonized by western ideas earlier than other Asian countries. I wouldn't say Japanese people worship white people though. Worship is a pretty strong word. It's more like they look at everything western as very exotic and hence want to emulate it. It's the same way with American girls nowadays wearing shirts that resemble Chinese qipao or Japanese kimono and put chopsticks in their hair. But that doesn't mean they worship Asians. They just think it's exotic and want to incorporate the exoticism into their lives.

I think the Japanese have preserved their culture the best out of Chinese, Koreans, and Vietnamese.

I think you're retarded.

I wouldn't say that, really.

Why not?

When the Japanese are appreciating Western sports, they watch Sumo as well. CKV do not widely support a traditional sport.

Japan has hotels (ryokans) where the whole process is no different than before Western intervention. You sleep on the floor, wear a robe, eat traditonal meals on the floor, so on. China, Korea, Vietnam curently does not have those traditional hotels that you see in historical dramas.

Japanese still sign documents with a chopblock, whereas CKV widely do not. Some do, but it's very mainstream in Japan.

China, Korea, and Vietnam used to have their own versions of "geishas", but no longer.

The Japanese monarchy still does ancient Shinto rituals to bless their nation that hasn't ended for centuries the same way the Chinese emperor used to pray at the Temple of Heaven once a year.


In many ways, very important rituals and processes have not died off in Japan the way they have in CKV.

china and vietnam? maybe but I don't think you should add Korea into that list. Korea still maintains much of its tradition despite the fact that its been westernized. Don't make assumption in place of lack of knowledge of the culture.

as for the topic starter, I agree..especially in Japan's historical development. Also, you said that you didnt want to talk about Japanese-Americans but the truth is and from my experience, that Japanese-Americans are no different from their native counterparts back in their home country. If anything, Japanese Americans forget about their culture even more so.

Um, China does use the stamping block. It's quite common.

So does China and Korea. There are many ancestoral worship rituals in China. In fact, the Royal family (Manchurian bannermen descendents) still get together annually to pray at the temples. During Qingming holiday everyone takes off from work and go to their ancestors' tombs and offer offerings to their ancestors. Korea has the exact same things. There are Buddhist temples everywhere in Vietnam, China, and Korea and Confucian teaching is very much still within the culture. Qipaos and Aodais (Viet) are very common. People in Korea attend weddings and events in Hanboks and burials in all three countries are very much traditional and uninfluenced by the West. Plus, just because Japan has Geishas doesn't mean the other Asian countries don't. They just aren't as upfront about it. Plus, you're generalizing way too much about Japan as if everyone sleeps on the floor. I lived in Japan and slept on the floor but majority of my friends had western beds. And people in country side in China, Korea, and Vietnam also sleep on the floors if they please.

I fail to see your point with your examples who are in fact, false. What you've generalized about the rest of Asia was very narrowminded and disrespectful.

China is a country of 56 ethnic groups and many of them practice some of the most ancient form of rituals, much more ancient than Japan, and Korea also have a lot of ancient rituals and Shaman dances, etc. Same can be said about Vietname with its Khmer and Chinese influence, carrying much of the rituals to the present day. If you think China, Korea and Vietname don't have any rituals from the past then I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

^and what the topic starter did wasn't?? Don't think what Stephen said was any worse.

Some people do criticize Japan for being white worshipping.

But what i want to know is, are they doing it just to differentiate themselves from Asia?

give me some proof. this is probably the most stupidest thing ive ever seen in this forum.

oh yey, another crock of $hit thread

Racist attitudes towards other Asians? Have you been on this forum long enough?
I know you are speaking of Japanese from Japan, but on this forum if you have been here long enough its already obvious which Asian ethnic group gets patronized most of the time.

I'm not antagonized, but merely irritated that the majority of threads made in this section are just vapid and predictable. Its either about anime/j-pop fanboy rants or borderline Japan/Japanese bashing.

To be honest, I have a better time reading about people who want a sexual partner to roleplay as dinosaurs with on craigslist than looking at some of the "discussions" in this particular section.

I think this is a good thing for Japanese people, even if it might seem like they have a certain type of slave mentality. I mean, there are stats that show that people of European descent are the number one expats in Japan. I don't see it as a racial angle though..I simply see it as Japanese society changing into something different. A complete cultural and societal change in Japanese history if the trend gets big enough. Theres no problem with it. It has been happening with peoples for awhile now and it would actually be a refreshing change for the world, especially since Globalization kind of froze world society development.

uh, proof? or are you just taking $hit out of your @$$

I dont believe this is still open..................