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Dharma Sena
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TOKYO (AP) -- The Japanese Olympic Committee on Wednesday chose Tokyo over the southwestern city of Fukuoka as the country's pick to vie for the right to host the 2016 Summer Olympics.

The 55-member selection committee held a vote at a Tokyo hotel to choose between the two cities after presentations were made for each candidate city. The vote was 33-22.

"Now we want to congratulate the people of Tokyo," JOC President Tsunekazu Takeda said.

Tokyo, which hosted the Summer Games in 1964, has billed itself as the "compact" choice, promising to provide facilities for 26 of 28 games within a 6-mile radius of downtown. It says that each venue can be reached within 20 minutes from athletes' villages by designating special lanes for the games on the capital's highways and regular roads.

Fukuoka, the biggest city on Japan's southeastern island of Kyushu, had said that it would center its Olympic facilities at three sites around town. It has never hosted an Olympics.

Earlier this month, the selection committee issued a report evaluating the competing bids that local media have seen as favoring Tokyo.

The selection committee was made up of 25 JOC executive board members, along with 30 representatives from sports federations and the Japan Sports Association for the Disabled, according to the JOC.

Japan joins Brazil, Spain, the United States and India among the potential host nations for the 2016 Games.

The International Olympic Committee will send out requests for bids next spring, and the selection will be announced in 2009.

"We know some people are saying it would be difficult for Japan to host the Olympics. The JOC does not think so, however. We believe we have a great chance," Takeda said.


Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug...p&type=lgns

I hope either Japan or India get it. Japan could easily get the building structures up, and has easily enough money to do it. India's economy is improving so they have a chance.

Brazil is dirt poor, and the United States is an illegitimate nation.
Suijen
Illigitimate nation?
northwestern_student
what about south africa
Dharma Sena
QUOTE(Suijen @ Aug 30 2006, 10:42 AM) [snapback]2237222[/snapback]

Illigitimate nation?


It belongs to the Native Americans all over, and Mexicans in the South from Texas to California. You cannot deny this fact. Add to this, the fact that they have committed War Crimes in the Middle East, they should be forced to pay billions daily, and be enslaved to work as camel herders in the Mid-East.

northwestern_student - I think South Africa is a candidate for 2012. Doesn't Beijing hold it in 2008?
northwestern_student
lol, i thought you hated middle easterners?
Dharma Sena
I hate their religion (Muslims and Christians, Jews are OK). Still though, the West is creating a War Crime by the day there.

I'd rather see the US/UK disarmed, than the fall of Christians/Muslims.
korean_turtle87
it'd be interesting to see the olympics in India
northwestern_student
what about israel? should they be disarmed along with US/UK?
rahul1000
It would be very interesting to see India host the Olympics though I highly doubt it. Even though the games are a decade away, India is still a very poor country with very poor infrastructure. I'm surprised it was even nominated to host the games.

What do you have against Brazil? I don't think Brazil is any poorer than India.
Dharma Sena
Israel faces a threat constantly from Arab Nations. They shouldn't be disarmed, but they should be forced to pay some sort of fines due to their extensive damage in Lebanon.

QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Aug 30 2006, 11:02 AM) [snapback]2237282[/snapback]

It would be very interesting to see India host the Olympics though I highly doubt it. Even though the games are a decade away, India is still a very poor country with very poor infrastructure. I'm surprised it was even nominated to host the games.

What do you have against Brazil? I don't think Brazil is any poorer than India.


Brazil has much worse poverty than India. Their numbers may not be as large, but their percentage of poor is huge. Go to Rio De Janeiro, and see for yourself the people living on the hills along the city. If you made those hills brown instead of green, and took away the ocean, you'd think it was Afghanistan.

Plus the Brazilian government is corrupt, and has just about legalized child prostitution. Oh yeah, Brazilians rated India low in a USA Today poll. Iran rated us the highest. But that's not that reason, until Brazil can clean up its stupidity, they shouldn't get it.
northwestern_student
^what poll is that? i'd be interested in ratings for china
ABC in NYC
QUOTE(Dharma Sena @ Aug 30 2006, 02:08 PM) [snapback]2237299[/snapback]

Israel faces a threat constantly from Arab Nations. They shouldn't be disarmed, but they should be forced to pay some sort of fines due to their extensive damage in Lebanon.
Brazil has much worse poverty than India. Their numbers may not be as large, but their percentage of poor is huge. Go to Rio De Janeiro, and see for yourself the people living on the hills along the city. If you made those hills brown instead of green, and took away the ocean, you'd think it was Afghanistan.

Plus the Brazilian government is corrupt, and has just about legalized child prostitution. Oh yeah, Brazilians rated India low in a USA Today poll. Iran rated us the highest. But that's not that reason, until Brazil can clean up its stupidity, they shouldn't get it.


Wow----- such hatred. thumbsdown.gif
Dharma Sena
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Aug 30 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]2237312[/snapback]

^what poll is that? i'd be interested in ratings for china


It's on my other computer, but I'll upload the images once I get on. I don't believe China was in that poll. It just had Indians approval ratings on certain nations, and their apporval ratings on Indians.

Iran, Russia, and Afghanistan gave us the highest.

The lowest were from the Phillipines, South Korea, and I forget the last one.

Pukistan was not polled.
splur
Somolia.
Jasel
Wouldnt mind Tokyo, South Africa, or Brazil in 12', or 16'
rahul1000
I would like to see some less developed nations host the Olympics, tired of the U.S, European countries, East asian countries hosting them.
splur
Would Brazil be able to handle it with FIFA 2014? Both are huge commitments and would cost them alot before they see profits return.
rahul1000
I'd say Brazil would be much more likely to host the World Cup, now that nation is soccer crazy!
supernovasp
should had chosen fukuoka -_-
toki
i hope they aim for india. tokyo already had an olympics anyways =_=
northwestern_student
hmmm...possible japanese cities:

Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe, Nagasaki

Indian cities:

Pune, Madras, Mumbai, New Delhi, Calcutta
ThreeKingdoms
yeah india would be cool~ i wanna see some dravidians in ancient attire during the ceremony

im a white man, so what i say goes!
toki
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Aug 30 2006, 04:35 PM) [snapback]2237837[/snapback]

hmmm...possible japanese cities:

Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe, Nagasaki

Indian cities:

Pune, Madras, Mumbai, New Delhi, Calcutta

kif any city in japan i hope its kyoto neartears.gif india would be great though. go india beerchug.gif but then.. in the U.S. the competition was chicago, san francisco and l.a. erm... go chicago! beerchug.gif
ThreeKingdoms
us olympics like the atlanta one was boring...all commercialism... that sucked.

northwestern_student
QUOTE(toki @ Aug 30 2006, 04:40 PM) [snapback]2237847[/snapback]

kif any city in japan i hope its kyoto neartears.gif india would be great though. go india beerchug.gif but then.. in the U.S. the competition was chicago, san francisco and l.a. erm... go chicago! beerchug.gif


i live in chi-town. and yeah, i really want chicago to get it.
ham_let
ugh? asia again? Talktohand.gif

brazil or spain and i'm there love2.gif

lol japan or india? i choose india ty very much. i won't have to watch events at 3 in the morning...
Dharma Sena
Well if Tokyo had them before, then India's chances are good. biggthumpup.gif

If I were part of voting, I'd have to consider potential problems though in India. The chances of terrorism are high, especially if people sneak in from neighboring Pukistan, or if Indian Muslims help their Paki brethren for 2 pegs of imported liquor, and a kebab.

Japan is modern, and has little to no religious tension. I'm saying this as an Indian.
northwestern_student
all major east asian capitals will have held the olympics by 2008. btw, how many times have japan hosted the winter olympics. or was nagano the first time?
ham_let
QUOTE(Dharma Sena @ Aug 30 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]2238203[/snapback]

If I were part of voting, I'd have to consider potential problems though in India. The chances of terrorism are high, especially if people sneak in from neighboring Pukistan, or if Indian Muslims help their Paki brethren for 2 pegs of imported liquor, and a kebab.

stop flaming! Talktohand.gif
Dharma Sena
No place in California deserves it. That place looks extremely over-rated from what I've heard/seen.

I'm no USA fan, but Chicago might be the one decent place in that entire country. I wouldn't mind them getting it.

India's time zone is odd for you guys. I'm typing this at 6:42 AM. In Los Angeles it's 6:12 PM, Chicago 8:12 PM, and New York 9:12 PM.

I'm not flaming. It's fact that India is horrible at protecting its borders, and the Mumbai bombings were probably caused by people who got through the long border.
ham_let
oh, then BRAZIL FTW! o por lo menos ESPAÑAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
rahul1000
QUOTE(Dharma Sena @ Aug 30 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]2238228[/snapback]

I'm not flaming. It's fact that India is horrible at protecting its borders, and the Mumbai bombings were probably caused by people who got through the long border.


What about the U.S, the richest and most powerful country in the world and thousands of Mexicans have and will cross that border?
Dharma Sena
USA should let the Mexicans in. After all, the Southern portion of the Western USA is really theirs. The whites just took it over via war. Or atleast make it easier for people to become citizens, it's not like Mexicans are taking their high tier jobs.

And Mexicans going into the USA is much different from Pakistani infiltration into India. Mexicans come to get jobs, and help their family. The Pakistani's are going for terrorist reasons, and to spread hatred.
northwestern_student
QUOTE(Dharma Sena @ Aug 30 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]2238294[/snapback]

USA should let the Mexicans in. After all, the Southern portion of the Western USA is really theirs. The whites just took it over via war. Or atleast make it easier for people to become citizens, it's not like Mexicans are taking their high tier jobs.

And Mexicans going into the USA is much different from Pakistani infiltration into India. Mexicans come to get jobs, and help their family. The Pakistani's are going for terrorist reasons, and to spread hatred.



what about the bangladeshis?
Dharma Sena
Bangladesh is a problem as well. They are slowly infiltrating the state of Assam. Actually Bangladesh in a 'daring move' a few weeks ago stole a few kilometers of Indian-controlled Assam.

There's also a Hindu genocide going on in Bengladesh, and they may be even more intolerant than Pakistan. They have a political party which is blatantly anti-India. They tried to bribe an Indian political party into giving them money, and in exchange they would drop their anti-Indian rhetoric.

Bangladesh and Pakistan are both failed nations, and/or will be declared that within a few years. Both have abnormally high population (Esp. Bangladesh) for nations of their size, tons of erosion, and little to no health care/education systems. Plus as you all know, Muslim women in Islamic countries are made (By Mullahs) useless.
northwestern_student
^Really? I though Bangladesh was wealthy nation. I remember my dad telling me back then that Bangladesh was beautiful, rich country, at least compared to China.
Dharma Sena
0-14 years: 32.9% (male 24,957,997/female 23,533,894)
15-64 years: 63.6% (male 47,862,774/female 45,917,674)
65 years and over: 3.5% (male 2,731,578/female 2,361,435) (2006 est.)

Most people don't make it over the age of 65 it seems.

INFANT MORTALITY RATE:
total: 60.83 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 61.87 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 59.74 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)

LIFE EXPECTANCY:
total population: 62.46 years
male: 62.47 years
female: 62.45 years (2006 est.)

LITERACY:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 43.1%
male: 53.9%
female: 31.8% (2003 est.)

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Bangladesh is a pretty small country. A bit smaller than the USA state of Iowa, yet it's population is about 150 Million. 46% of them live below the poverty line.

It's developed, but has tons of slums. I guess parts of it are nice due to the ocean, and river/forest region. They have some tigers, etc. I've heard which is cool.

I'd much rather live in China though. Check this out:

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The Bangladesh Liberation War resulted in one of the largest genocides of the 20th Century. While estimates of the number of casulaties vary between 300,000 and 3,000,000, it is reasonably certain that Hindus bore a disproportionate brunt of the Pakistan Army's onslaught against the Bengali population of what was East Pakistan.

An article in Time magazine dated August 2, 1971, stated "The Hindus, who account for three-fourths of the refugees and a majority of the dead, have borne the brunt of the Muslim military hatred."

Senator Edward Kennedy wrote in a report that was part of Senate Committee testimony dated November 1, 1971, "Hardest hit have been members of the Hindu community who have been robbed of their lands and shops, systematically slaughtered, and in some places, painted with yellow patches marked "H". All of this has been officially sanctioned, ordered and implemented under martial law from Islamabad". In the same report, Senator Kennedy reported that 80% of the refugees in India were Hindus and according to numerous international relief agencies such as UNESCO and WHO the number of East Pakistani refugees at their peak in India was close to 10 million. Given that the Hindu population in East Pakistan was around 11 million in 1971, this suggests that up to 8 million, or more than 70% of the Hindu population had fled the country.

The Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Sydney Schanberg covered the start of the war and wrote extensively on the suffering of the East Bengalis, including the Hindus both during and after the conflict. In a syndicated column "The Pakistani Slaughter That Nixon Ignored", he wrote about his return to liberated Bangladesh in 1972. "Other reminders were the yellow "H"s the Pakistanis had painted on the homes of Hindus, particular targets of the Muslim army" (by "Muslim army", meaning the Pakistan army, which had targeted Bengali Muslims as well), (Newsday, April 29th 1994).


I think Bangladesh is getting worse and worse due to radical Islam's growth there. Other Asian countries nearby should actually be careful as many of their people are fleeing the country. Tons of them have become refugees in India. I wonder if it will end up the next Somalia, because there are lots of groups trying to set up an Islamic Court Law system there.
northwestern_student
that's why bangladesh needs indian, and chinese investment and help
ThreeKingdoms
i hope pakistan gets it.
northwestern_student
^unlikely, since india will be putting huge international pressure against it.

yeah im really hoping chicago gets, as there will be a high chance that olympics will use northwestern facilities in evanston.
Dharma Sena
LOL, it'd actually be funny if Pakistan got it.

I want India to get it, and I want to see how the Pakistani team is greeted during opening ceremonies.

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that's why bangladesh needs indian, and chinese investment and help


It'd be a huge mistake to invest there I think. As much as I hate to say it, Bangladesh would be a great place to exploit labor. They have nothing, and no education really. That's why I don't want India to even deal with them, becuause any deal we do with them, they'll be getting ripped off and little kids will be put to work in factories.

Really, they should just join India again. And if they have this Islamic dream they can move to some Middle Eastern Islamic country. No Muslim nation without oil can do well. They are too intolerant.

I don't know how Indonesia is doing so well, but I think it's because they aren't radical.
northwestern_student
Are Bengalis mainly muslim? Or is it just in Bangladesh? Bengalis have a great maritime, commercial tradition, so i think the economic setback for bangladesh is merely temporary.
Dharma Sena
Bengali = West Bengal. That's the state in India right next to Bangladesh. They are like 70+% Hindu.

Bangladeshi (I guess that's what they are called) = Bangladesh. They are probably around 80-85% Muslim.

Interesting, they border eachother yet have totally opposite religions. They speak the exact same language though.

They've got some sort of Natural Preservation Park (In Indian Bengal at least) which has a sort of mangrove/jungle thing. I think Bangladesh has part of it in their country as well.
ThreeKingdoms
well the indians and pakistanis i knew in la got along perfectly fine.

on a side note, one thing i really admire about pakistanis is that the lifetime average sexual partner of both males and females is 1.

now that in a weird way, is very ideal, something i have to respect.
Dharma Sena
I think the more East you go in the Islamic World the less amount of wives you'll see husbands having. laugh.gif

But, I agree with you. It's good that they don't go around having sex with anything that walks.
supersloth
i vote for india. beerchug.gif

no offense to any japanese here, but i think japan is overexposed and played out like jLO.

lets let india have the limelight for a while.
toki
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Aug 30 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]2238096[/snapback]

i live in chi-town. and yeah, i really want chicago to get it.

yeah. ssome people rule out sanfrancisco because its more in danger since its on a major fault line. and la has already been done. chicago plus has a much better transportation system than both. one big problem in sydney was that it took a long time to get to different venues. in chicago, it'll be much better connected plus there mayor daley did a lot of beautifying chicago.

QUOTE(ham_let @ Aug 30 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]2238170[/snapback]

ugh? asia again? Talktohand.gif

brazil or spain and i'm there love2.gif

lol japan or india? i choose india ty very much. i won't have to watch events at 3 in the morning...

yeah they haven't done s. america yet icon_sad.gif
northwestern_student
QUOTE(toki @ Aug 31 2006, 11:09 AM) [snapback]2241175[/snapback]

chicago plus has a much better transportation system than both. one big problem in sydney was that it took a long time to get to different venues. in chicago, it'll be much better connected plus there mayor daley did a lot of beautifying chicago.
yeah they haven't done s. america yet icon_sad.gif


if you're ever in chicago, you should rent a car and drive along lakeshore drive, it gives a spectacular view of the city line, and also the lakefront. grant park and millenium park (the one that mayor daley built recently) are two place off lakeshore drive you definately don't want to miss.

although chicago's pretty crowded, and they prolly can't build more stadiums/buldings for the olympics, there is alot of universities around, and im sure the city can use some of their athletic facilities
rahul1000
QUOTE(supersloth @ Aug 31 2006, 09:48 AM) [snapback]2240917[/snapback]

i vote for india. beerchug.gif

no offense to any japanese here, but i think japan is overexposed and played out like jLO.

lets let india have the limelight for a while.


Yeah, same here. biggthumpup.gif beerchug.gif
ham_let
i still can't believe beijing got the olympics. bastards. Talktohand.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

and then van city got 2010 making it pretty much impossible to have the olympics down in teh T dot.
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