http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvR3Z1mXv30

I'm guessing this was an Arab disguised as a Jew. There's no way a true Jew would say this.

Islamic Propaganda.

The guy who came to insult them was hilarious. That guy was smart.

actually alot of orthodox jews deny the existence of israel as well. i went to DC during summer of '03 and there was this old jewish woman camped out in front of the capitol distributing on pamphlets on why israel should not exist.

Actually, it is a complicated thing. There are self-hating Jews who make public comments that fuel neo-nazi anti-semites who take their word as representative of all Jews. I didn't watch the video because I don't imagine it would make me feel too good, but I imagine that this is a Jew who hasn't had a great experience with other Jewish kids.

There was someone who came in here, complaining about much of the anti-Jewish commentary here (which includes the use of the k word, and other epithets) and they quoted a rabbi who said, "one million arabs isn't worth a single Jewish fingernail." This is a horrible thing to say, and I've never met another Jewish person who would agree with this type of racism. Yet, this quote appears on many neo-nazi websites as representative of Jewish opinion on this conflict. Among the Jews there is a diverse range of opinions. We are people like anyone else.


I decided I couldn't help but watch. This was propaganda; I know many orthodox Jews who don't support Israel. I don't know any who deny the holocaust. Very good catch on your part.

I know some as well. In fact, I feel a little bit ambivalent about it myself. Israel, the way it behaves now, isn't good for anyone, including Jewish people. However, it's difficult for me to make the case that it shouldn't exist when I read the types of threatening comments that are displayed at the bottom of the video link you provided.

The reason these comments (about finishing what the Germans started etc.) don't make me feel that Israel shouldn't exist is because they don't seem to be inspired by the existence of the state. The "cause" is an excuse to express this type of naked bigotry rather than the origin of the bigotry. But, if Israel's existence means that people can now bring vicious comments about all Jews without any consideration of the religious, ethnic, and national categories involved in their criticism, into the public domain without any non-Jewish objectors, maybe it shouldn't exist. It's a complicated issue.

I'm not really sure, the comments they were making seemed absurb if they were comming from the mouth of a Jew.

I've seen those Orthodox people who are against Israel. A bunch of freaks if you ask me, the Jews would've been destroyed had Israel not been created.

Anybody who denies the Holocaust is crazy though in my opinion.

there is no way the jews are going to denie a hollocaustr they like complaining to much the even got a wall for complaining

Supposedly Jews are not suppose to have a state of thier own according to thier religion. So The country of Israel and the reasons for why it exists is denied by the "true" Jews. Now I'm for people having a place to call home. But the Jew state is full of it. Doing to the Palestinians what the Nazi's supposedly did to them.

Your post is riddled with bias and factual inaccuracies. The nazis systematically murdered 80% of the European Jewish population in death camps, and were intent on murdering the entire population. Although the Israeli state has harmed civilians, it hasn't been a genocide or an attempted genocide. It's obvious you make this comparison in order to be insulting.

There are plenty of "true" Jews who believe that the state of Israel should exist. There are plenty who believe that it creates an atmosphere of hatred for Jews and spawns the type of ignorant analogies that you seem to specialize in. There are secular Jews, orthodox Jews and everything in between. Perhaps before you express such a strong opinion on the matter you should do a little bit of research; I don't recommend visiting websites that perpetuate slander against Jews.

and I suggest you don't post here since you only post about in jewish topics. if you care so much, you should probably stop posting here and join adl.

I was going to thank you for your grammatical trainwreck of a post until I realized it's not a defense at all. So your argument is that Jews will not deny the holocaust because they have too much of an affinity for griping? How about I offer an alternative to this racist thesis? They will not deny the holocaust because it is a historical event that is well documented and involved the near extinction of their ethnic group.





Since there are plenty of Jewish topics to post in, that should involve an awful lot of writing. My arguments are generally not ad hominem, are rarely insulting, are not blatantly racist like many of the other posts here. Why then, are they such an affront to you?

because it seems to me like you only care to defend your reputation as a jewish when there's an attack but not care to participate in other discussions when it comes to opposite culture being it is AF and there's a reason why it's here and it's to appreciate the asiatic distinct memes and asian culture today with asians themselves.

Most of my posts have been on Jewish themes. However, I have posted on other sections as well in one or two other topics. I'm sure you know, this section is labelled other cultures.

In my first post, I did say that I have registered because I am going to be enrolling in a class in order to learn Mandarin. I have an interest in East Asian cultures but it does not supercede my interest in either self-preservation, or correcting hate speech. This is only natural. I find it odd that you take issue with my focus when I am only responding to topics that are already here. If they are outside the scope of Asian culture, perhaps they shouldn't exist.

Your suggestion that I leave and join the ADL has been noted. I appreciate it, but I disagree.

I agree in self preservation but joining an asian forum to defend yourself which your post ratio has out done your interest in hua culture for post is kind of strange to me. If I was to go to a jewish forum with interest in jewish culture and I would see insults on all chinese, I would care less because those who wish to see the truth wouldn't base on hate alone. and I care not to pay such attention. if you are interested in east asian cultures then post in more about them, like this thread. http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43518

and yes, I realized the section is "other cultures".

Perhaps I will. I'm interested, but don't like force. You couldn't possibly know the ratio of threads that I read and learn from, but don't post in because I have nothing new to add from experience. My interest is sincere. I still don't know why my post ratio should matter unless you're threatened by something I wrote. If this is the case, I recommend a rebuttal.

I have a Chinese tenant who is helping me learn Mandarin, and she recommended I look into this site. I wish I didn't. I'm sure everyone is friendlier in person.

We can audit anyone's post ratio and see what they choose to respond to. That says nothing about what they have an interest in.

Surprised about the denying of the holocaust? Maybe kina surprising.
Denial of Israel? Makes sense since a Jewish state isn't even suppose to exist.

Either that or they are self-hating Jews or white supremacists disguised as Jews so that they can be against Israel. I applaud the man who stood up to these hooligans. I am an athiest, but of Jewish descent, and I fully support Zionism and Israel's right to exist in the Middle East.

May I ask why you are using the Swastika? The swastika was used as a symbol by the Nazis, and I am very offended by it. I'm goning to ask you politely to change it, or else I'll report it to the moderators.

Jews are jews , leave them alone

This is exactly why I don't give a flying piece of $hit about Jews whenever there's something involving them there's bound to be conflict. Just like this thread for example.

OMG! finally some one realized an effin' pattern. that's why I ignore all threads relative from here on out.

Except my attitude towards this pattern extends into real life too.

Responding with facts doesn't create conflict. You're actually the person who responded with an attack recommending that I leave the site for expressing my opinion. You're perfectly entitled to yours, but the revisionist history is laughable. My ratio of posts got even more biased towards Jewish themes. Will you recommend I leave again and then scapegoat me for creating conflict?

Good job!



Then why are you on this thread ? What a pattern. Two people who want really badly to avoid Jews from here on out feel the inexplicable compulsion to express their antipathy toward JEWS on a thread about JEWS. Good work hypocrites.

Maybe you should check your bigotry at the door.

Just giving everyone a friendly reminder. You make it sound like I hate Jews, no I simply don't care for them. Not caring is a sign of indifference.

I have cleared up your confusion about my thoughts.

What did I say about compulsion? Indifference means not responding because you don't care what someone else thinks. It also means that you don't have to stop in to get the last word to clear something up that you have already stated. Why make such an effort to contradict your words? Hypocrite?

And yes, making a stop in a thread that features a link to anti-Jewish propaganda in order to express your indifference is a little deranged. The first confrontational interaction I had in this thread was when I was quoted for responding to the topic and told to leave and join the ADL. I certainly can't be blamed for that.

Please don't stop back to reiterate your indifference .