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candyman702
Any of you have relatives that are khmer surin or khmer krom? If so do they act like normal khmais? Do you guys share the same customs? Any stories to share?
Goombaking209
Khmer krom was only annexed about .. 50-60 years ago so i think that would be more likely for today's khmer to be related to .. as for surin ... im not sure.. but my step dad is grew up in khmai krom ..
Sophea
QUOTE(candyman702 @ Aug 30 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]2238815[/snapback]

Any of you have relatives that are khmer surin or khmer krom? If so do they act like normal khmais? Do you guys share the same customs? Any stories to share?


Its sad that Khmer surin cant act like normal khmer. Thais make it illegal Thai people go to khmer surin village just to find someone who speaks khmer then beat them and put them in jail and then they put it on tv to make example. but khmer surin are very brave and try to preserve khmer culture anyway. even some khmer surin got beatin and stoned to death theyre still proud of khmer customs. we must not forget this. Our oppressed brothers need SUPPORTS..
sbeechan
My dad's friend is Khmer krom and he speaks Khmer in a really really thick accent but he's really nice and just a regular guy all around.
stephenchow
QUOTE(Sophea @ Aug 31 2006, 04:08 AM) [snapback]2239967[/snapback]

Its sad that Khmer surin cant act like normal khmer. Thais make it illegal Thai people go to khmer surin village just to find someone who speaks khmer then beat them and put them in jail and then they put it on tv to make example. but khmer surin are very brave and try to preserve khmer culture anyway. even some khmer surin got beatin and stoned to death theyre still proud of khmer customs. we must not forget this. Our oppressed brothers need SUPPORTS..

it is not true that you can't speak Khmer in Thailand. I've been there many times and I spoke khmer and nobody beat me and put to jail. what's the point? well maybe during war but not today.
joost_leaki
my neighbor is khmer krom, i really dun care about khmer ler khmer krom khmer surin its all khmer.
candyman702
Yea i agree with you i am surprised u didn't say khmer chen since we all know u worship them so much laugh.gif
Goombaking209
QUOTE(candyman702 @ Sep 1 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]2245870[/snapback]

Yea i agree with you i am surprised u didn't say khmer chen since we all know u worship them so much laugh.gif


I think khmer chen are taochew chinese ..

khmer krom is still khmai, but im not so sure about khmer surin ...
TyCooN
what's with all these khmer types TyCooN is confused icon_neutral.gif
joost_leaki
QUOTE(candyman702 @ Sep 1 2006, 03:47 PM) [snapback]2245870[/snapback]

Yea i agree with you i am surprised u didn't say khmer chen since we all know u worship them so much laugh.gif


if i included khmer chen then i should included khmer indian, khmer white, khmer malay, khmer everything, we're talking about location not blood. khmer krom is basically khmer with an accent and same for khmer surin.
candyman702
QUOTE(TyCooN @ Sep 1 2006, 06:11 PM) [snapback]2246472[/snapback]

what's with all these khmer types TyCooN is confused icon_neutral.gif

khmer surin: Khmer/thai mixed people living in Thailand.
Khmer krom: Khmers living in vietnam
joost_leaki
khmer surin isn't mixed thai, at least not the majority.
lemongrass
QUOTE(candyman702 @ Aug 30 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]2238815[/snapback]

Any of you have relatives that are khmer surin or khmer krom? If so do they act like normal khmais? Do you guys share the same customs? Any stories to share?

hey brother, i am khmerr surin and i do act like any khmerr people, except when i speak khmerr i actually role my rrrrrs unlike khmerr from cambodia. our customs and courtesies are very much khmerr except our language are very old khmerrrr. eventhough we live in thailand, we still speak khmerr among ourselves at home and speak thai in public because it is the official language. since thai culture and ours are very much the same the only manner we have to change is our language that we speak in public. we must not forget that we did not cross the boarder, the boarder crossed us.
lemongrass
QUOTE(Sophea @ Aug 31 2006, 03:08 AM) [snapback]2239967[/snapback]

Its sad that Khmer surin cant act like normal khmer. Thais make it illegal Thai people go to khmer surin village just to find someone who speaks khmer then beat them and put them in jail and then they put it on tv to make example. but khmer surin are very brave and try to preserve khmer culture anyway. even some khmer surin got beatin and stoned to death theyre still proud of khmer customs. we must not forget this. Our oppressed brothers need SUPPORTS..

more or less four hundred years ago, khmer land was conguered and ruled; half by siam and the other half by annam or viet. you know the history, i don't need to profess. only the french entervention that saved Cambudeja from extinction. in the old days there were forced assimilation and slavery of our dark skin people, but since Rama V, about 200 years ago, khmer people were just another subject of the thai domain just like the laos and the malays and recieved equal treatment under the kings rule. one must remember that nationalism is a very recent phenomenon. about the beating and jailing, i have not witnessed it myself or heard it being done. i am from sakaeo or srah keo in khmer, my home is only one kilometer from the cambodian boarder and it is only 30 minute drive from kao e dang refugee camp. we do speak khmer everyday at home and speak thai or siem in official functions.
it is our everyday conversation that we wondered, when will our brethren in Cambudeja, live a peaceful and productive life and have many, many children and stop killing each other. i must tell you that there are more khmerr, in thailand than in cambudeja or cambodia. for example, in bankok or krung tep, there are lots of khmer people living and working just like the next person in thailand. you will only know that the person is khmer if you only ask. as for me, i speak khmer all the time with my fellow khmerr in bankok, in the bus, in the taxi, in the mall, etc, etc, etc.
chapey
^^
I've been to Bangkok once, I try to speak Khmer to alot of people, and they respond in Khmer, which was suprising.
stephenchow
QUOTE(chapey @ Sep 2 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]2249921[/snapback]

^^
I've been to Bangkok once, I try to speak Khmer to alot of people, and they respond in Khmer, which was suprising.

were you talking to Thai people?
candyman702
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Sep 2 2006, 03:23 AM) [snapback]2248625[/snapback]

hey brother, i am khmerr surin and i do act like any khmerr people, except when i speak khmerr i actually role my rrrrrs unlike khmerr from cambodia. our customs and courtesies are very much khmerr except our language are very old khmerrrr. eventhough we live in thailand, we still speak khmerr among ourselves at home and speak thai in public because it is the official language. since thai culture and ours are very much the same the only manner we have to change is our language that we speak in public. we must not forget that we did not cross the boarder, the boarder crossed us.

what the hell are you talking about? Khmers do roll their rrrrr's
chapey
QUOTE(stephenchow @ Sep 2 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]2250070[/snapback]

were you talking to Thai people?

Some just know how to speak a little Khmer, but others were Khmers living there and working there. The hotel i stayed was all Khmer, it was called Kim's House or SafeHouse, something like that.
joost_leaki
most people here think khmer rolled their rs for eveything. i have listen to spanish, and khmer rs sound nothing like spanish, can anyone here say roamvong, rasmey, robam, and etc, its not rolled its just regular rs. i have no problem understabding khmer krom, but i can't understand surin songs, i can understand regular people speaking thought. Surin khmer is probaly farther from khmer culture then khmer krom, but least they are in the end khmer no matter what.
YNAW
Im Khmer Ynaw and my brother-in-law is Thai Korat/Khmer Surin. I also have a uncle that lives in khrung thep. and i cant notice any difference between Kon Liew, Siem, and Khamen, besides the languages.
candyman702
QUOTE(joost_leaki @ Sep 2 2006, 03:19 PM) [snapback]2250239[/snapback]

most people here think khmer rolled their rs for eveything. i have listen to spanish, and khmer rs sound nothing like spanish, can anyone here say roamvong, rasmey, robam, and etc, its not rolled its just regular rs. i have no problem understabding khmer krom, but i can't understand surin songs, i can understand regular people speaking thought. Surin khmer is probaly farther from khmer culture then khmer krom, but least they are in the end khmer no matter what.
If we dont roll our r's then explain
riel (money)
roueth (run)
riep (clean)
cha-ret (attitude)
pa rien (teach)
ma rieh (pepper)
borei (cigarettes)
ka rope (respect)
The list goes on and on
Point_Dexter
ALL KHMER R's ARE LIGHTLY ROLLED. PERIOD.
Point_Dexter
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transtic
QUOTE(Point_Dexter @ Sep 3 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]2252849[/snapback]

ALL KHMER R's ARE LIGHTLY ROLLED. PERIOD.

Not at the end of words.. such as Khmer, hence why some people write Khmai instead of Khmer.
lemongrass
QUOTE(candyman702 @ Sep 2 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]2250074[/snapback]

what the hell are you talking about? Khmers do roll their rrrrr's

the hell that i am talking about is that Khmer in thailand do pronounce our rrs from the beginning to the end. for example, when we say Khmer we don't say Khmai and we pronounce or roll the r at the end of Khmer. then again its all where you go in Khmer land, each region speak quite differently, because each have its own evolution and foreigne influence. anything that needed to be clarified i'll be happy to help out.
Saigonese87
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Sep 3 2006, 09:04 PM) [snapback]2256054[/snapback]

the hell that i am talking about is that Khmer in thailand do pronounce our rrs from the beginning to the end. for example, when we say Khmer we don't say Khmai and we pronounce or roll the r at the end of Khmer. then again its all where you go in Khmer land, each region speak quite differently, because each have its own evolution and foreigne influence. anything that needed to be clarified i'll be happy to help out.


south vietnamese roll their rrrrrrrs.... biggthumpup.gif
supernovasp
QUOTE(Saigonese87 @ Sep 3 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]2256081[/snapback]

south vietnamese roll their rrrrrrrs.... biggthumpup.gif

^ we don't roll our r lol. We usually either pronounce it with a very light r, or "g" for mien tay people, or french "j".
lemongrass
QUOTE(Point_Dexter @ Sep 3 2006, 02:39 AM) [snapback]2252849[/snapback]

ALL KHMER R's ARE LIGHTLY ROLLED. PERIOD.
not quite. it all depends on where the speaker come from. as "Pnom Pegn" people have no r in their pronounciation what so ever, people in upper Khmer roll thier r and as you go higher the r is really pronounced.


QUOTE(Saigonese87 @ Sep 3 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]2256081[/snapback]

south vietnamese roll their rrrrrrrs.... biggthumpup.gif

which south vietnamese population were you reffering to? the viet, the khmer or the cham? help me out, because i have not been to vietnam yet.
SonOfDork
yeah anyways, to the topic starters questions. I'll just answer half of your questions for you cause I want to hehe okay. I am khmer krom and basically we do the same sh!t khmer does except some of us love to sing cai luong (sorry if i spelled it wrong) which is basically vietnamese karaoke that my dad totally loves to sing, he speaks viet&khmer and he came from saigon yeah that's mostly it. About the ladies over there hmmm them & their kids mostly speak vietnamese in the house, and the young khmer krom girls act older than the age that they should be acting like. For me, I was just born&raised as khmer/chinese not that much vietnamese raised if you get my point. I just know my families past cause my dad likes to tell me everything about his life, along with my moms but she's not khmer krom she's like half chinese/khmer.
supraCC
khmer krom are not khmers. they will be totally vietnamese in 50 years.
DisneyLandGangsta
Shut the fu-k up Taitanic/fobshizzle.
supraCC
oh yeah? laugh.gif
DisneyLandGangsta
After all these years, you're still a fob.
supraCC
no personal attack. we can be SEA brothers. why do you have to be like that? laugh.gif
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