I bump into this guy who told me that western medicine is superior than eastern medicine (as in terms of Chinese herbal stuff)

True or false? Debate and discuss

I hear you have to "believe" in Eastern Medicine and it's philosophies in order for it to really work (Accupuncture, etc.).

I find Eastern more interesting, though I just use Western liquid medicine when I'm sick. I'd try Eastern, but only if all Western has failed because some Eastern stuff is odd.

Let me add that I'm the LARGEST HATER OF THE WEST ON THIS SITE. Read some of my posts and you will see.
Perhaps their vile tasting medicine is their best creation.

Depends on what ailments you have.
Western Medicine is much more advanced, whereas there hasn't been many advancements for Eastern medicine so even if your reject eastern medicine, you're not necessarily rejecting your roots. You just want to get well sooner. lol.

I tried acupuncture once, and it didn't work

I dunno, when you are sick having flu or something it seems only wester medicine works. However if you have long term illness, like continuous coughing, unexplained headaches..etc. then eastern medicine seem to be the cure.

My father was coughing for like 2 years non-stop after he had a flu. He was worred that he might have had some wierd lung problem, so he went to a doctor, the doctor took x-rays and stuff for his lungs and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Then my father went to this chinese medicine place and they gave him some herbal stuff. He boiled the herbal stuff and drank it, and after drinking it for two months his coughing problem was gone...

I think western medicine can provide cure to diseases which are immdediate. But if you have diseases/illness that last for a long period of time, and western medicine can't cure it then eastern medicine can be of help... although I wonder why acupuncture didn't work on me

A friend of mine had acupuncture and said he went out feeling worse than he did when he went in.

Another guy I know had it and felt much better, he continued to get it done...I guess it works for some, and not for others.

A lot of Eastern medicine does work. But a hell lot of it doesn't. We Chinese don't have anything that could cure cancer, but modern medicine does.

I think it's safe to say Western medicine is far superior than traditional Eastern medicine simply because Westerners were the first to grasp microbiology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

im kind of skeptic of eastern meds ie herb n $hit

Western... because of the research and survey part of it not to say that Eastern medicine don't but some of it is based on tales. Like who's ever conducted a research on studying the effects of eating a tiger's penis... !! (Just one extreeeeme example.)

sometimes yes, sometimes no.
my mom has terrible leg problems since she broke it 45 years ago......
its never going to get better but she alternates.
she says when the western stops being effective she moves to eastern (mostly chinese) and when that starts to falter is back to western......

to me its either placebos, some effect, no effects and negative effects

Well judging by the success (or what appears to my eyes to be) of so many Chinese to avoid the need of the hospitals in the U.S., and judging by the success of Western medicine to fix - or help with - so many problems and diseases after they occur, I would hazard to guess Eastern medicine is better at keeping you healthy, and Western medicine is better at helping your suffering, arresting it's progress, or curing it once your already f-cked up .

Some of the western beliefs are so bull$hit though.
Like "eating chocolate doesnt cause pimples".
Thats the biggest balooney ever, I dont know anything about their research, but I have had 5 years experience when I used to have pimples back then. Everytime I ate chocolate = pimples. No chocolate eating = less/no pimples.

I think there is more than 1 road to any destination. Because Eastern may be different doesn't make it less valid.
Example : You go to the Doctor for back pain. He has 3 options.
1. Muscle relaxers, damn didn't work
2. Physical theropy. Damn still didn't work
3. The knife. Damn no I am really fudged up.
Before I do option #3 I'll try a chirpracter.

Go to a chiropracter. He does some adjustments you feel somewhat better.

Now eastern medicine and I admit I am some what ill imformed but at least eastern medicine is offering other options than just drugs, excercise and the knife.

do NOT go to a chiropracter. bunch of crooks who dont know jack $hit.

i dont know much about each one, but i think eastern medicine is better in healing while western medicine is better in saving lives.

ahhhhhh and thus the debate continues. I would never use a back cracker for the flu. For the spine? I have gotten relief an MD couldnt give me. Thats not to say all MD's and spinal specialists suck. Just saying I was a hurting unit. The pills didnt work, the physical theropy actually made it feel worse sometimes. Then the knife option was presented.
Like you I was whoa hell with those 4 year degree back crackers. My parents were against them and had taught me well. My brother however said go just 1 time.
So by this point everything hurt walking, sitting etc. Anyone who has ever hurt their back understands.
After 1 visit felt 50% better
after 3 felt rightous.
A good back cracker doesnt believe in months and months of adjustments. The one I see adjusts you says call me in a week. If its still sore come back.
1 big difference between the 2 disiplines. Chiropracters actually spend a few minutes of time with their patients. Its not the assembly line atmosphere of the doctors office we see today.
I am not telling anyone chiropracters are the way to go. Meerly suggesting they are an option. There has to be a reason why the establishment hates them. LOL must mean they feel threatened.
Can anyone find the rate of law suits against DR.'s and against Chiropracters? I would love to see who gets sued most and who looses most. I honestly don't know but its an interesting question.

My Favorite Eastern Medicine

Generally if one doesn't work, it wouldn't hurt to try the other.

Always remember though, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

You must go to visit her flip man, Get some of that milk and carry it into battle. Or use it yourself on your aching ballics from dealing with whiners all day long. Please share with me the results after a 6 month test.

oh my oh my. i'd buy one of those wooden dildos and slap a b!tch who complains. but honeslty jim, i'd rather bring her assistant with me.

LOL fair enough, you can have her magic dildo

Medicine shouldn't be a competition as to "which is superior" but rather, which treatment would provide the best means to treating an individual dealing with an ailment.

Both are helpful.

Discussing whether western medicine or eastern medicine is better...

Western medicine is very reductionist; that is, they identify the problems as location-specific and try to cure from there. For example, "My stomach hurts" --> stomach examination --> Ulcer! --> medicine for stomach ulcer.

Eastern medicine is very holistic; that is, they tend to think that the diseases and pains are an unbalance to the body's equilibrium. For example, "My stomach hurts" --> pulse/pressure examination --> Too much stress = unbalanced body!--> medicine/treatment to relieve stress and restore the balance.

It's like the old debates between the Cnidians and Hippocratics back in the good old Greece. Though, interestingly enough, it was the Cnidians who were the reductionist while Hippocratics who were holistic.

So, which is better?

In emergency medicine and surgical technology, Western medicine is by far superior to eastern medicine. Understandably so, since the reductionist attitude fits well with such fields. If you just got into a car crash and your arm is 6 feet in front of you, you're going to want to go to an M.D.

In everything else, Eastern medicine dominates the field. Western medicine's response to things like migrane, nausea, arthritis, or even stomach ulcer is shockingly remedial. All the "new" and "exciting" advances in pharmaceutical industries are laughable; they're just recreating the same old, same old (kinda like Hollywood ). And of course, this is coming from an aspiring pre-med student who's going to become a M.D. (or at least hopefully).

I believe, like many doctors, med students, and pre-med students, that eventually (within this century if anything else) the two fields will merge into one practice.

Let me clarify something.
Are you comparing western herbalism to eastern herbalism? Or are you comparing MODERN western medicine to tradtional eastern medicine????

i normally go for the first one

what? they have a cure for cancer now? when did this happen?

That's what I was thinking.

Traditional Eastern medicine was more advanced than traditional Western medicine but over the last several centuries, Western medicine has overtook Eastern medicine. Eastern medicine hasn't really advanced for centuries, so I don't see how it can be compared to modern Western medicine.

Chinese Herbal Medicine can cure cancer but you have find the right doctor.

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