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SoCal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

India: 1,103,371,000
Pakistan: 163,985,373
Bangladesh: 141,822,000
Total: 1,409,170,373

China: 1,315,844,000
kkdkckrl
............and?


I am sure the combined population of Japan, Koreas, and China is larger!
SoCal
QUOTE(kkdkckrl @ Sep 4 2006, 08:24 AM) *

............and?
I am sure the combined population of Japan, Koreas, and China is larger!


We are learning geography today. biggthumpup.gif

China: 1,315,844,000
Taiwan: 22,894,384
Japan: 128,085,000
South Korea: 47,817,000
North Korea: 22,488,000

Total: 1,537,128,384
SuperiorHominid
The whole of South Asia is more heavily populated than the whole of East Asia
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=82130

http://geocities.com/superiorhominid/files/asia.xls
http://geocities.com/superiorhominid/files/asia.pdf

Initially I said that East Asia was slightly more populated than South Asia but then i found updated population estimates
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Mid-Night_Sun
lmao. i read both threads. SuperiorHominid is so enthusiastic about it. he bumps the other one. posts in this one.

says all kinds of bs like tibet being south asian and south east asians being south asian.

meh, w/e. i have been amused and thats all i came to this thread for lmao.
lama23
^tibets culture is very south asian generally of southeast asian moved out of south asia
Mid-Night_Sun
k, theres like, massive lag right now. ive tried to post 3 times. im sick of retyping. so, your right. w/e. i dont even care rofl.
SuperiorHominid
QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Sep 4 2006, 06:29 PM) *

lmao. i read both threads. SuperiorHominid is so enthusiastic about it. he bumps the other one. posts in this one.

says all kinds of bs like tibet being south asian and south east asians being south asian.

meh, w/e. i have been amused and thats all i came to this thread for lmao.

I didn't add Southeast Asian countries into the population of South Asia, but it is a fact that Southeast Asians are more similar to South Asians than to East Asians

We were the only ones to bring in linguistic influence when their languages were developing. I'm not saying all they got was South Asian, but a great deal of it was. Their religions came to them from South Asia (They were Hindus in the pre-Buddhist days (the Thai king even to this day is associated with the Hindu god Rama). Today they are Theravada Buddhists (which was the primary from of Buddhism of SA until the Mughals killed off the religion in our regions) and Muslims (Which they got through Mongol and Indian merchants)). Also in Universities, Asian Studies are divided into South and Southeast Asian Studies and East Asian Studies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast-Asia
"The chief cultural influences over the Southeast Asian peoples in past few millennia have been from India as evidenced by the forms of writing"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Southeast_Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Southeast_Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Southeast_Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Southeast_Asia
http://www.stanford.edu/group/sjeaa/journal2/geasia2.pdf
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainT...?historyid=ac37
"Cham, Khmer and Mon: from the 1st century AD

The early centuries of Indian influence see several royal dynasties, some Hindu and some Buddhist, rivalling each other for power and territory in southeast Asia"

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/syllabic.htm
All Southeast Asian scripts, except Vietnamese are syllabic. Syllabic scripts are fully Indian.
Mid-Night_Sun
do you really expect me to read all that?
Suijen
China might have 1.5 billion.

Oh snap, NOW WHAT?!



Actually, that's nothing to brag about.
ACMILAN1983
I have one interest alone in knowing this and that is that so many East Asian people say South Asians aren't Asian. This statistic means that the majority are being grouped as something else altogether, which quite frankly is just plain stupid..
Mid-Night_Sun
^ you want the truth? you guys werent in the Got Rice song or Thais Azian Story lmao.
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ Sep 5 2006, 02:37 AM) *

I have one interest alone in knowing this and that is that so many East Asian people say South Asians aren't Asian. This statistic means that the majority are being grouped as something else altogether, which quite frankly is just plain stupid..

... wtf..... we are more middle eastern than asians in my opinion. most arabs iranians, syrians are brown.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 5 2006, 01:16 PM) *

... wtf....we aint chinese eyed flat nose midget mongoloids anyway. we are more middle eastern than asians in my opinion. most arabs iranians, syrians are brown.


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jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ Sep 5 2006, 07:48 AM) *

The Middle East is in Asia sure.gif

my bad...i forgot it was in asia too icon_redface.gif
SuperiorHominid
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 5 2006, 07:16 AM) *

... wtf..... we are more middle eastern than asians in my opinion. most arabs iranians, syrians are brown.

Sorry but we're not
Looking and being are completely different.

Our cultural brothers and sisters are the Thais, Kampucheans, Laotians, Indonesians, Bruneians, Malaysians, Chams (a kind of Vietnamians), and Myanmars.

Our languages and religions are living proof of that fact

Plus many Arabs and Kurds are white
radha_chopra112
Indians are Asian, biatchz biggrin.gif
gomeny
QUOTE(SuperiorHominid @ Sep 5 2006, 02:20 PM) *

Sorry but we're not
Looking and being are completely different.

Our cultural brothers and sisters are the Thais, Kampucheans, Laotians, Indonesians, Bruneians, Malaysians, Chams (a kind of Vietnamians), and Myanmars.

Our languages and religions are living proof of that fact

Plus many Arabs and Kurds are white

Not if Nordic indian god or goddess!
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 5 2006, 07:16 AM) *

... wtf..... we are more middle eastern than asians in my opinion. most arabs iranians, syrians are brown.




Middle-Easterns would never accept us as being genetically closer to them (and I wouldn't want them to either). Go to any Persian, Afghan or Arab forum...and they even denigrate Paki Pathans who kiss their @$$ and post their pictures.

Fair Indians still have rounded, soft Desi features. I can tell them apart from Arabs, who tend to have more prominent features...while some look white and some look like black-white mixes/

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jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 5 2006, 07:38 PM) *

Middle-Easterns would never accept us as being genetically closer to them (and I wouldn't want them to either). Go to any Persian, Afghan or Arab forum...and they even denigrate Paki Pathans who kiss their @$$ and post their pictures.

Fair Indians still have rounded, soft Desi features. I can tell them apart from Arabs, who tend to have more prominent features...while some look white and some look like black-white mixes/

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well that first chic look like indian...my arabs friends are just like us ... they consider themselves brown....probably in usa arabs look different ...i dunno..
ExpressYourself
Arabs can look like anything. Some look Desi, but Arabs I know claim that they look different from Desis ON AVERAGE. I think these girls looks strongly "Arab"...if I were to describe the stereotype. icon_neutral.gif

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jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 6 2006, 04:23 PM) *

Arabs can look like anything. Some look Desi, but Arabs I know claim that they look different from Desis ON AVERAGE. I think these girls looks strongly "Arab"...if I were to describe the stereotype. icon_neutral.gif

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again that first lady look indian ...second one ist original arab...she is blond.

when arabs say they look differnt from indians they say it cause they find themselves looking differnt from tamils or south indians or guyanese or trini indian...irakis egyptians , most iranians are just like north indians.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 6 2006, 08:08 PM) *

again that first lady look indian ...second one ist original arab...she is blond.

when arabs say they look differnt from indians they say it cause they find themselves looking differnt from tamils or south indians or guyanese or trini indian...irakis egyptians , most iranians are just like north indians.



I've been to Irani and Arab forums where they diss North Indians. They know what Punjabis are, because Indian Punjabis and Pakis come to those forums and post their pictures.

Some Afghans don't even want to accept the Pathans in Pakistan and India as one of them, because they feel Paki Pathans look too "South Asian."
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 6 2006, 10:48 PM) *

I've been to Irani and Arab forums where they diss North Indians. They know what Punjabis are, because Indian Punjabis and Pakis come to those forums and post their pictures.

Some Afghans don't even want to accept the Pathans in Pakistan and India as one of them, because they feel Paki Pathans look too "South Asian."

well probably in internet forums they dont look south asians but in real world outside they look south asians.

well these are you r everyday iranians.

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which ones are non south asian looking.
SuperiorHominid
ok... it doesn't fu-king matter how they look...

They are NOTHING like us. We are closer to the Southeast Asians than we are to them

And also according to the UNESCO, Iran and Afghanistan are South Asian, so you don't need to argue about Persians being Indian-like, its already recognized
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(SuperiorHominid @ Sep 7 2006, 05:12 PM) *

ok... it doesn't fu-king matter how they look...

They are NOTHING like us. We are closer to the Southeast Asians than we are to them

And also according to the UNESCO, Iran and Afghanistan are South Asian, so you don't need to argue about Persians being Indian-like, its already recognized

iranians are more closer to us north indian and pakis then chinese or south east asians...there are lots of farsi words in hindi... iran and india has influenced each others culture since historical times. we can understand persian but we cant understand chinese language.
SuperiorHominid
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 7 2006, 08:26 PM) *

iranians are more closer to us north indian and pakis then chinese or south east asians...there are lots of farsi words in hindi... iran and india has influenced each others culture since historical times. we can understand persian but we cant understand chinese language.

Yea Persian is Iranian... South Asian. Chinese is East Asian
The Southeast Asians are the ones who are culturally closer to us
gomeny
QUOTE(SuperiorHominid @ Sep 7 2006, 09:35 PM) *

Yea Persian is Iranian... South Asian. Chinese is East Asian
The Southeast Asians are the ones who are culturally closer to us

Honestly I think SEA is very similar to West and South Indians.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 7 2006, 05:57 AM) *

well probably in internet forums they dont look south asians but in real world outside they look south asians.

well these are you r everyday iranians.

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which ones are non south asian looking.



There are South Asian-looking Iranis, but all these Irani-Americans keep telling me that Desi-looking Iranis are a minority, and that the "standard Iranian look" is different from the North Indian look......which they think that all Indians (north, south, west) look the same.


I've seen few Iranians and they look either Southern Europeanish or semitic, so I can't really comment as a whole.....I'm just going by what Iranians themselves are telling me. I figure they know more about their own people.
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 8 2006, 09:30 PM) *

There are South Asian-looking Iranis, but all these Irani-Americans keep telling me that Desi-looking Iranis are a minority, and that the "standard Iranian look" is different from the North Indian look.
I've seen few Iranians and they look either Southern Europeanish or semitic, so I can't really comment as a whole.....I figure they know more about their own people.

the iranians i know look just like pakistanis....women wear burka and smoke...n u know wot...they know about slaman khan and shahrukh khan..n can figure out wot lots of punjabi words means...probably they were balochis...from iranian side of balochistan....
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 8 2006, 09:36 PM) *

the iranians i know look just like pakistanis....women wear burka and smoke...n u know wot...they know about slaman khan and shahrukh khan..n can figure out wot lots of punjabi words means...probably they were balochis...from iranian side of balochistan....


Yeah..Indian movies are popular all over the world.


Do they get mad if you tell them they look Pakistani though?
jatt_with_gutts
probably to non punjabi indians they look differnt but to punjabis they look similar....thats y i always say india is a confideration of various ethnicities

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 8 2006, 09:37 PM) *

Yeah..Indian movies are popular all over the world.
Do they get mad if you tell them they look Pakistani though?

well they dont get mad cause they are just like us....actually this iranian was telling me wot some punjabi words means while we were listing to punjabi channel ....words like hazar are actually farsi words.
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 9 2006, 03:30 AM) *

There are South Asian-looking Iranis, but all these Irani-Americans keep telling me that Desi-looking Iranis are a minority, and that the "standard Iranian look" is different from the North Indian look......which they think that all Indians (north, south, west) look the same.
I've seen few Iranians and they look either Southern Europeanish or semitic, so I can't really comment as a whole.....I'm just going by what Iranians themselves are telling me. I figure they know more about their own people.

People in the northern Indian subcontinent and Iranian peninsula are physically and culturally related, due to a shared pre-historic Indo-Iranian history and mutual Indian-Persian influence for many centuries after that. That's why Iran and Afghanistan have been included in Southern Asia, despite being Middle Eastern countries.

Iranian celebs usually look more Semitic or Mediterranean but the average Iranian usually looks more like a Pakistani. However, many Iranians probably wouldn't want to admit it.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 11 2006, 08:56 PM) *

People in the northern Indian subcontinent and Iranian peninsula are physically


What about the non-North Indians that look North Indian? Can they claim to be physically related to Iranians too? embarassedlaugh.gif

I personally feel more inclined towards a non-North Indian than an Iranian anyday though.



Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 12 2006, 03:28 AM) *

What about the non-North Indians that look North Indian? Can they claim to be physically related to Iranians too? embarassedlaugh.gif

I personally feel more inclined towards a non-North Indian than an Iranian anyday though.

I also get along better with Southern Indians and Sri Lankans but I wasn't really talking about them. embarassedlaugh.gif

Most Northern Indians would probably agree with you about having more commonalities with Southern Indians than Iranians.

I was just pointing out that Iranians do have commonalities with Northern Indians but culturally have little in common with Southern Indians.
SoCal
Hey, this thread is still going, huh. biggrin.gif
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