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106 in 3 days? An average of 35 a day. Is there anyway that this can be stopped or reduced?
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overthrow the communist gov will help
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Sep 5 2006, 09:52 PM) 
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106 in 3 days? An average of 35 a day. Is there anyway that this can be stopped or reduced?
35 * 365 days = 12,775 deaths per year
12,775 / 12 months = over 1,000 deaths per month
The police need to catch people who don't wear helmets and fine them heavily and confiscate their motorcyles for a few days to a week.
When the motorcylists drive recklessly, confiscate them, fine them heavily, make them do community services such as picking up trashes by hands for 100 hours to 1,000 hours, etc.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 5 2006, 10:54 PM)
35 * 365 days = 12,775 deaths per year
12,775 / 12 months = over 1,000 deaths per month
The police need to catch people who don't wear helmets and fine them heavily and confiscate their motorcyles for a few days to a week.
When the motorcylists drive recklessly, confiscate them, fine them heavily, make them do community services such as picking up trashes by hands for 100 hours to 1,000 hours, etc.
What are some of the most causes of the accidents?
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 5 2006, 10:54 PM)
35 * 365 days = 12,775 deaths per year
12,775 / 12 months = over 1,000 deaths per month
The police need to catch people who don't wear helmets and fine them heavily and confiscate their motorcyles for a few days to a week.
When the motorcylists drive recklessly, confiscate them, fine them heavily, make them do community services such as picking up trashes by hands for 100 hours to 1,000 hours, etc.
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In the United States; 43,200 died in 2005 from driving/traffic accidents.
43,200 / 12 months = 3,600 deaths per month
compared to Vietnam of more than 1,000 deaths per month
This is comparable because the population of the United States is 3 to 4 times larger than the population of Vietnam.
http://www.trb.org/news/blurb_detail.asp?id=6195
United States Motor Vehicle Traffic Crash Fatalities and Injuries: 2005 Projections
The U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released preliminary projections on motor vehicle traffic crash fatalities and injuries during 2005. According to a preliminary report, 43,200 died on the nation’s highways in 2005, up from 42,636 in 2004. Injuries dropped from 2.79 million in 2004 to 2.68 million in 2005, a decline of 4.1 percent. Fifty-five percent of passenger vehicle occupants who died in 2005 were unbelted. NHTSA’s report projects a fatality rate of 1.46 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT), up from the record low of 1.44 in 2004. NHTSA also found safety belt use is at 82 percent nationwide. The report also projects the eighth straight increase in motorcycle fatalities. In 2005, 4,315 motorcyclists died, a 7.7 percent increase over the 4,008 motorcycle fatalities in 2004.
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Sep 5 2006, 10:56 PM)
What are some of the most causes of the accidents?
Many people refuse to wear helmets in Vietnam.
Not wearing helmets is like not wearing seat bealts. People will most likely die from accidents if they don't wear helmets (motorcyles) or don't wear seat belts (cars).
QUOTE(hohoho_ @ Sep 6 2006, 12:12 AM)
overthrow the communist gov will help
Yes, corrupted cops are part of the problem since they encourage people to bribe to get away with breaking traffic laws. If only these cops do their job then we will see a more safer traffic. Drivers are the big blame since they are the ones who caused the accidents. Not only they break traffic laws constantly, MOST of them don't have a driver liscense and/or insurance. And the third thing is the infrasstructure. Roads are not well built/designed - lack of features like shoulders, medians, barriers, markers, lights..etc.. When you combine these things, outcome is not good! During my travel I've seen red light runners ALL the time right in the middle of the city during traffic hours. And a traffic cop stopped someone ahead, you will see bunch of folks pull to the side and avoid going pass the cop since they don't have driver liscense or/and insurance.
Public education is the key. Using the media like TV and Radio and bombard the public with safety issues like how they do it here in the States with "your brain on drug" and DUI. If they succeed in bombarding the public with propagandas, they can succeed in doing this.
Make stopping corruptions a priority. Design and build better transportation strutures without letting those officials cut back on materials or relaxing specifications. Fire and jail all corrupted officials!!!!!! Create a anti-corruption committee and hunt these asses down.
Like other mentioned in other thread, build more public transit. Light, clean, and fast transit.
And lastly, build a few damn race tracks for those moto racers. When you have a racetrack, you also willl have a few race clubs which anyone who wants to go fast on bikes and join. C'mon, someone will money needs to step up and do this. Its going to be great investment. Only if I have the money.
with this gov or any other gov, you need to do these.
Here's the state of Vietnam traffic: so true
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Traffic in Vietnam is chaotic. Traffic accidents, mostly involving motorcycles and often resulting in traumatic head injury, are an increasingly serious hazard. At least 30 people die each day from transportation-related injuries. Traffic accident injuries are the leading cause of death, severe injury and emergency evacuation of foreigners in Vietnam, and are the single greatest health risk that U.S. citizens will face in Vietnam.
Traffic moves on the right, although drivers frequently cross to the left to pass or turn, and motorcycles and bicycles often travel (illegally) against the flow of traffic. Horns are used constantly, often for no apparent reason. Streets in major cities are choked with motorcycles, cars, buses, trucks, bicycles, pedestrians and cyclos. Outside the cities, livestock compete with vehicles for road space. Sudden stops by motorcycles and bicycles make driving a particular hazard. Nationwide, drivers do not follow basic traffic principles, vehicles do not yield right of way, and there is little adherence to traffic laws or enforcement by traffic police. The number of traffic lights in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City is increasing, but red lights are often not obeyed. Most Vietnamese ride motorcycles, and an entire family often rides on one motorcycle.
Road conditions are poor nationwide. Numerous tragic accidents have occurred due to poor road conditions that resulted in landslides, and American travelers have lost their lives in this way. Travelers should exercise extra caution in the countryside, as road conditions are particularly poor in rural areas.
Driving at night is especially dangerous and drivers should exercise extreme caution. Roads are poorly lit, and there are few road signs. Buses and trucks often travel at high speed with bright lights that are rarely dimmed. Some motor vehicles may not use lights at all, vehicles of all types often stop in the road without any illumination, and livestock are likely to be encountered.
Motorcyclists and bicyclists are strongly urged to wear helmets. Passengers in cars or taxis should use seatbelts when available, but should be aware that Vietnamese vehicles often are not equipped with working seatbelts. The Vietnamese government began mandating the use of motorcycle helmets on major roads leading to large urban centers in January 2001, but application and enforcement of this law have been slow and sporadic at best. New laws have been promulgated concerning the use of motorcycle helmets in urban areas as well, but have not been enforced. Child car seats are not available in Vietnam.
Traffic moves on the right, although drivers frequently cross to the left to pass or turn, and motorcycles and bicycles often travel (illegally) against the flow of traffic. Horns are used constantly, often for no apparent reason. Streets in major cities are choked with motorcycles, cars, buses, trucks, bicycles, pedestrians and cyclos. Outside the cities, livestock compete with vehicles for road space. Sudden stops by motorcycles and bicycles make driving a particular hazard. Nationwide, drivers do not follow basic traffic principles, vehicles do not yield right of way, and there is little adherence to traffic laws or enforcement by traffic police. The number of traffic lights in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City is increasing, but red lights are often not obeyed. Most Vietnamese ride motorcycles, and an entire family often rides on one motorcycle.
Road conditions are poor nationwide. Numerous tragic accidents have occurred due to poor road conditions that resulted in landslides, and American travelers have lost their lives in this way. Travelers should exercise extra caution in the countryside, as road conditions are particularly poor in rural areas.
Driving at night is especially dangerous and drivers should exercise extreme caution. Roads are poorly lit, and there are few road signs. Buses and trucks often travel at high speed with bright lights that are rarely dimmed. Some motor vehicles may not use lights at all, vehicles of all types often stop in the road without any illumination, and livestock are likely to be encountered.
Motorcyclists and bicyclists are strongly urged to wear helmets. Passengers in cars or taxis should use seatbelts when available, but should be aware that Vietnamese vehicles often are not equipped with working seatbelts. The Vietnamese government began mandating the use of motorcycle helmets on major roads leading to large urban centers in January 2001, but application and enforcement of this law have been slow and sporadic at best. New laws have been promulgated concerning the use of motorcycle helmets in urban areas as well, but have not been enforced. Child car seats are not available in Vietnam.
from State Department
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In the United States; 43,200 died in 2005 from driving/traffic accidents.
The U.S population is about 3.57 times more than Vietnam so I guess both countries have the same death rate
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Sep 6 2006, 01:31 AM)
The U.S population is about 3.57 times more than Vietnam so I guess both countries have the same death rate
Not really. Not everyone drive in Vietnam.
Here in the US 40%+ drive. Even 90 years grandma.
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Sep 6 2006, 01:48 AM)
Not really. Not everyone drive in Vietnam.
Here in the US 40%+ drive. Even 90 years grandma.
Good point. Americans drive faster and bigger car/motorcycle too.
If people drive like how the roads designed for and obey traffic laws, we won't see that many deaths.
Traffic in Vietnam is pretty bad and it can be very intimidating to tourists. I heard India is much worst or maybe the worst.
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Sep 5 2006, 11:52 PM)
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106 in 3 days? An average of 35 a day. Is there anyway that this can be stopped or reduced?
Damn it, why the CSVN government doesn't listen my genius advice
Make building metro subway systems the highest priority, and build them within 5-10 years!!! Don't BS around, plan, delay, plan, delay, plan and then do nothing. If there are not enough investors, not enough money, just use the damn earned oil income. The return on investment wouldn't be that long, 5-7 years hopefully. Yes, it is an ambitious project, yet a very important one with enormous benefits, even more important than building additional international airports. The metro subway systems will:- Help reduce traffic deaths, greatly.
- Help reduce serious, yet worsening traffic congestions, greatly.
- Help reduce pollutions, greatly.
- Help attract more foreign visitors, thus further fuel economic growth, greatly.
- Help elevate our country's image, greatly.
- Make all Vietnamese, domestic and all the world, proud, because they represent a great milestone in our path to industrialization.
- Lastly, give me a specially joyful ride of my life, when I am back home sweet home on the motherland
QUOTE(hohoho_ @ Sep 6 2006, 12:12 AM)
overthrow the communist gov will help
I wanted to a while back, but unfortunately, it is really not realistic
Let's do it differently, use our brain, our words and pens for a peaceful, gradual transformation/change of CSVN government over years 
bluelakedragon:
Very good, strong suggestions from you. From the quality of the responses of everyone in general, it is clear that Vietnamese Americans do have the ability to contribute much to Vietnam. Money and investment are good, but good thinking is priceless.
Very good, strong suggestions from you. From the quality of the responses of everyone in general, it is clear that Vietnamese Americans do have the ability to contribute much to Vietnam. Money and investment are good, but good thinking is priceless.
When i was in vietnam it was so funny because if there was a cop sitting there on patrol about 1/4 a mile in both direction there were people who would rent helmets out.
Also i think most of those accident are cause by drinking and driving
Also i think most of those accident are cause by drinking and driving
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