RockHeart
Jun 2 2004, 08:44 AM
Hey People!!!!
I would like to indecate to you all about The Japan brief history as: The Japanese are very kind and so compassion to all Asian People!! Especially, when we are the Refugees have some problems in the camp, the Japanese Dr. and his teams willing work as a volunteer to help all those refugees without purchase...Its a great credit.
But then, how come all those people arrived in the western countries, then return fighting back to the Japan!!! Thats no nice...You all should admire and encourage about their had been focused us in the past!!! For me, I respect and believe the Japan!!! They are so good to me and to all!!
You all have to believe the statement above!!!
RockHeart,
:genius:
starry
Jun 2 2004, 09:01 AM
delete...pulling a devilish
RockHeart
Jun 2 2004, 02:46 PM
My point just is indecate that the Japan were volunteer by using a lot of madicines to treat the general refugee patients in the camp that i was. The Japan teamworkers spent so many years and hardwork to take care all refugee races without charge of money at all. They all were great relationships and honor with us, Refugee!!! They did with all their best to deserve us at the camp....But i am positive unknowledge what you said about Korea...I am lost from here!!!
RockHeart,
:genius:
watashi5000
Jun 3 2004, 05:51 PM
Like the 2nd poster said, Japan has done lots of things to hurt its global image in the past. ALLOT of things. But history aside, its wonderful to see that they have shown you thier hospitality. It reminds me of Thomas Dooley in Vietnam before the war.
RockHeart
Jun 4 2004, 02:41 PM
How come the Japanese in this forum are NOT the SAME as the Japanese that i saw in the Camp??? They are so kind and wonderful...They talked more respectful and behavior...The way that they acted was fascinated to our feeling, and i alway admired and encouraged them...
RockHeart,
:genius:
Tav6
Jun 4 2004, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (starry @ Jun 2 2004, 10:01 AM)
Hey Rockheart. I don't know if you're being completely serious to be honest, but the first thing that crossed my mind when I read this post was the Korean comfort women sent to Japan during WWII.

So while I'm not bashing the Japanese, I don't see how you can say that they've been compassionate to all Asians throughout history.
yeah the Japanese killed millions of asians from all over east and south asia during the WWII
Triste
Jun 7 2004, 12:21 AM
I'm crying, here.
hamburglar
Jun 8 2004, 10:24 PM
so did the germans.
why don't we just hate ALL cultures for their past crimes..
THose filthy spaniards destroyed the aztecs. I'm never going to spain.
Americans had slaves. I'm burning my social security card.
Come on guys...
get over the past...
ALL of our ancestors did AWFUL $hit in the past, no matter WHO you are, i can think of some attrocious thing that your culture did...
直隸總督
Jun 8 2004, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (hamburglar @ Jun 8 2004, 09:24 PM)
so did the germans.
why don't we just hate ALL cultures for their past crimes..
THose filthy spaniards destroyed the aztecs. I'm never going to spain.
Americans had slaves. I'm burning my social security card.
Come on guys...
get over the past...
ALL of our ancestors did AWFUL $hit in the past, no matter WHO you are, i can think of some attrocious thing that your culture did...
But some people acknowledged their crimes and moved on, while some people are still whitewashing their history.
kpjoon
Jun 9 2004, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Jun 4 2004, 03:41 PM)
How come the Japanese in this forum are NOT the SAME as the Japanese that i saw in the Camp??? They are so kind and wonderful...They talked more respectful and behavior...The way that they acted was fascinated to our feeling, and i alway admired and encouraged them...
RockHeart,
:genius:
Because everybody is different
TrueViet
Jun 9 2004, 08:35 PM
hahaha i hate your signature rockheart nikka.
Made in China
Jun 9 2004, 09:33 PM
germans said Sorry and compensated the jews
America abolished and ended slavery and segargation.
Japan did Nothing. Refuse to compensate, acknowledge, Nothing.
Not even a single apology to any of the asian nations.
barkerintokyo
Jun 10 2004, 12:24 AM
It's funny how the only apology that the Chinese accept is money.
Rad Raz
Jun 10 2004, 11:05 AM
Because money solves everything.
直隸總督
Jun 10 2004, 11:56 AM
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 9 2004, 11:24 PM)
It's funny how the only apology that the Chinese accept is money.
How about China annexes Japan's territory? How about Japan provides all economic privledges only to China? Be practical, I don't care if Japan's verbal apology is genuine because you never know. I just want Japan to acknowledge its past and stop whitewashing its history.
It's rather funny how Japanese government always picks the easiest way - money.
barkerintokyo
Jun 11 2004, 08:40 AM
Yeah, if China stopped asking for money as an apology, we would stop giving money as an apology.
直隸總督
Jun 11 2004, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 11 2004, 07:40 AM)
Yeah, if China stopped asking for money as an apology, we would stop giving money as an apology.
We don't care about "apology", we only ask for compensation, which Japanese never paid as the war ended. Compensation is something practical, not verbal apology. There are many ways Japan can pay for the compensation, money is certainly the easiest.
I will not waste my time replying your posts since you live in Tokyo and you're full of the distorted "historical" facts.
QUOTE
it has been proven for over a decade now that the Rape of Najing did not occur
barkerintokyo
Jun 11 2004, 08:42 PM
For your information I received my education in America. I base my beliefs on what was taught in American public education system.
Japan has been paying compensation in the form of ODA. Although the name is called Official Development Aid, Japan started paying China ODA immediately after Japan had the ability to start paying war reparations or compensations or whatever you'd like to call it. Japan still pays China reparations. Just because we don't call it reparations doesn't mean it's not reparations. Think about it, China is a pretty developed nation. Do you honestly believe that China needs development aid?
RockHeart
Jun 14 2004, 06:05 PM
I didnt recognize the Japan history in the past whether was good or bad indeed! But i just described about what i saw in where i was. The Japaneses are perfectely and more compassion on the poorest people...They honest to serve the patients and treat some medicines without pay back. What i saw in the Thai Land Camp. there were about 6,000 multi-refugees were living there...Every single day was full of patients in the Camp hospitals...But there were only Japan Doctors, Nurses and its group workers servered those patients...That case was enough for me to believe that the Japan were so kind and love people...
I am very much to support the Japan and i can count on them!!! I would like to be your team work!!!
RockHeart,
:genius:
GaleHarold
Jun 16 2004, 08:36 PM
Well, when it comes to apology, talk is cheap.
I was in Japan for a brief moment, waiting for my connecting flight to Hong Kong at the airport. I have to admit that the Japanese airport employees there are infuriatingly polite.
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Jun 16 2004, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Jun 11 2004, 02:39 PM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo)
it has been proven for over a decade now that the Rape of Najing did not occur
I suppose 300 000 people burned, raped, hanged, skinned, drowned, and tortured themselves.
barkerintokyo
Jun 16 2004, 09:19 PM
A population of 270,000 cannot have 300,000 deaths.
190,000 bodies cannot magically disappear.
Westerners aren't blind. They should have witnessed more than just 3 executions. (And those three executions were later labeled legal executions in the Tokyo trials)
There were no facilities of mass murder like that of the Holocaust. It would have been mathematically impossible to kill that many people and dispose of their bodies in that little time.
Ogumo
Jun 17 2004, 06:06 AM
QUOTE (GaleHarold @ Jun 16 2004, 09:36 PM)
Well, when it comes to apology, talk is cheap.
I was in Japan for a brief moment, waiting for my connecting flight to Hong Kong at the airport. I have to admit that the Japanese airport employees there are infuriatingly polite.
QUOTE
I have to admit that the Japanese airport employees there are infuriatingly polite.
Japanese people as a whole are infuriatingly polite. It is disgusting...
tool666
Jun 17 2004, 06:43 AM
QUOTE
Please don't Mess to Me!! If you want to Risk your lives, then go ahead!...Your lives will be on the Edge of Death.
Rockheart is an online gangster! HAHAHA!
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Jun 17 2004, 03:40 PM
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 16 2004, 10:19 PM)
A population of 270,000 cannot have 300,000 deaths.
190,000 bodies cannot magically disappear.
Westerners aren't blind. They should have witnessed more than just 3 executions. (And those three executions were later labeled legal executions in the Tokyo trials)
There were no facilities of mass murder like that of the Holocaust. It would have been mathematically impossible to kill that many people and dispose of their bodies in that little time.
I do not care what westerners or your distorted history say, the Nanjing Massacre occurred and the Japanese are liable.
JackWang
Jun 18 2004, 08:13 PM
it is very interesting that people always talk about wwii when they describe their reasons to hate japan or japanese. that implies that they have no reason other than "comfort woman" and "nanjing massacre" to hate japan/japanese. what does it mean ? if you are clever, you can easily find out the "current" japanese are the perfect creature and are always admired from around the world. this is a great finding.
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Jun 18 2004, 08:25 PM
Who said anything about hate ?
'Perfect creature' - my @$$, take that slut in your sig for example, she could use some plastic surgery.
I cannot believe you JackWang.
JackWang
Jun 18 2004, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 18 2004, 09:25 PM)
'Perfect creature' - my @$$, take that slut in your sig for example, she could use some plastic surgery.
she's known as sexiest girl. she's been actually dating a lot of males. she don't need plastic surgery. if she used it to boost her beauty, she would have no time to sleep because she would have to date more men.
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Jun 18 2004, 08:45 PM
In any case, if a country invaded Japan, and began to torture and rape citizens, would you not have right to resent them ?
What if a high-ranking Chinese official referred to the Japanese as dogs ?
Dating a lot of males just makes her an unmoral slut, an ugly one at that.
Byron
Jun 18 2004, 08:52 PM
JackWang aren't you Chinese, since your last name is Wang?
JackWang
Jun 18 2004, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 18 2004, 09:45 PM)
Dating a lot of males just makes her an unmoral slut, an ugly one at that.
definitely wrong. dating a lot of males means a lot of male want her. that simply means she's very attractive, not unmoral. look at these photos.
hiro1hiro2hiro3hiro4hiro5hiro6hiro7hiro8no male can't control their desire when they see such cute and sexy girl. a lot of male must have been asking her to date. the she's been accepting their offers. what's wrong ?
xiaowind
Jun 18 2004, 09:41 PM
Look this:
WebpageI absolutely can't believe that the grandsons of those barbaric army would be 'Perfect creature' !
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Jun 18 2004, 10:20 PM
Hell, JackWang is Chinese !
tool666
Jun 18 2004, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (JackWang @ Jun 18 2004, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 18 2004, 09:25 PM)
'Perfect creature' - my @$$, take that slut in your sig for example, she could use some plastic surgery.
she's known as sexiest girl. she's been actually dating a lot of males. she don't need plastic surgery. if she used it to boost her beauty, she would have no time to sleep because she would have to date more men.
Jack, you are an imbecile. You should think before you fart cause you are obviously talking out of your @$$.
Hell, my dog is prettier than the slut on your signature.
JackWang
Jun 19 2004, 01:58 AM
QUOTE (tool666 @ Jun 18 2004, 11:32 PM)
Hell, my dog is prettier than the slut on your signature.
dog are cute but i don't get aroused seeing them. i don't eat them either. do you ?
MotramViet
Jun 20 2004, 05:44 AM
"germans said Sorry and compensated the jews
America abolished and ended slavery and segargation.
Japan did Nothing. Refuse to compensate, acknowledge, Nothing.
Not even a single apology to any of the asian nations. "
Likewise, the Chinese who conquered Vietnam for almost 1000 years, until now there is compensation, apology... from the Chinese.
"Treat people the way you would like to be treated"
Byron
Jun 20 2004, 05:55 AM
QUOTE (MotramViet @ Jun 20 2004, 06:44 AM)
"germans said Sorry and compensated the jews
America abolished and ended slavery and segargation.
Japan did Nothing. Refuse to compensate, acknowledge, Nothing.
Not even a single apology to any of the asian nations. "
Likewise, the Chinese who conquered Vietnam for almost 1000 years, until now there is compensation, apology... from the Chinese.
"Treat people the way you would like to be treated"
Yeah but Chinese domination was over 1000 years ago, and those who did it are long dead, there are still Japanese from World War 2, still alive.
n00b_sKiLLz
Jun 21 2004, 10:08 PM
Japanese treat everyone nicely? That's just about the last thing I had in mind... Don't forget how they fu-ked over us Koreans in our history... Took over our country, tried to get rid of the Korean language (old Korean ancestors still remember the Japanese they were forced to learn as kids...), used innocent civilians as "human bombs", raped tons of Korean women, and who knows what else... At least countries like Germany admit their wrong doings towards Jews... Japan denys to admit any wrong doing... I find this sick and wrong... I don't have problems with Japanese people, but I don't think their history is very "nice" at all...
RiverPlate4Life
Jun 21 2004, 10:13 PM
QUOTE (n00b_sKiLLz @ Jun 21 2004, 11:08 PM)
Japanese treat everyone nicely? That's just about the last thing I had in mind... Don't forget how they fu-ked over us Koreans in our history... Took over our country, tried to get rid of the Korean language (old Korean ancestors still remember the Japanese they were forced to learn as kids...), used innocent civilians as "human bombs", raped tons of Korean women, and who knows what else... At least countries like Germany admit their wrong doings towards Jews... Japan denys to admit any wrong doing... I find this sick and wrong... I don't have problems with Japanese people, but I don't think their history is very "nice" at all...

Hey, Kid, no offense but this is the best advice I can give to you.
Ogumo
Jun 22 2004, 08:24 AM
QUOTE (n00b_sKiLLz @ Jun 21 2004, 11:08 PM)
Japanese treat everyone nicely? That's just about the last thing I had in mind... Don't forget how they fu-ked over us Koreans in our history... Took over our country, tried to get rid of the Korean language (old Korean ancestors still remember the Japanese they were forced to learn as kids...), used innocent civilians as "human bombs", raped tons of Korean women, and who knows what else... At least countries like Germany admit their wrong doings towards Jews... Japan denys to admit any wrong doing... I find this sick and wrong... I don't have problems with Japanese people, but I don't think their history is very "nice" at all...

That was imperial japan. I believe that rock heart was speaking of modern japan.
n00b_sKiLLz
Jun 22 2004, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 22 2004, 09:24 AM)
QUOTE (n00b_sKiLLz @ Jun 21 2004, 11:08 PM)
Japanese treat everyone nicely? That's just about the last thing I had in mind... Don't forget how they fu-ked over us Koreans in our history... Took over our country, tried to get rid of the Korean language (old Korean ancestors still remember the Japanese they were forced to learn as kids...), used innocent civilians as "human bombs", raped tons of Korean women, and who knows what else... At least countries like Germany admit their wrong doings towards Jews... Japan denys to admit any wrong doing... I find this sick and wrong... I don't have problems with Japanese people, but I don't think their history is very "nice" at all...

That was imperial japan. I believe that rock heart was speaking of modern japan.
Oh OK, my bad~

I hope this makes sense: Nippon ga sukidesu~!
RockHeart
Jun 22 2004, 04:23 PM
Whatever that you all have the comments about the Japanese are bad indeed! I dont think so!! Because i did saw they had been done a great job to the people of thousand and thousand in the past...So?? wherever i am...I am always keeping their kindly aide in my mind forever!!! I love you Japan...
RH. :genius:
NitaKang
Jun 25 2004, 04:10 PM
Seems like he's getting mixed up with times. Hmm i don't know, but I think he's mostly referring to a small volunteer medical group from Japan around 1970's-1980's (killing fields era in SE asia) went to some camp between Thailand and Cambodia where there are patients and legless people ready to go on the next step of finding a home.
RockHeart
Jul 1 2004, 10:00 AM
Ogumo
Jul 1 2004, 01:12 PM
JackWang:
Stop with these evil pictures of this nasty woman.
RockHeart:
...and you must be trying to fu-k with us all. Trying to subtle start something eh? I am convinced of it.
Jigoku Z
Jul 1 2004, 04:15 PM
Despite what Japanese did in the past. I have to agree that Japanese are one of the nicest people after China

. And Jack Wang that's one fugly pic. I don't I'll get a erection for weeks after seeing that pic....
lunksunkunk
Jul 1 2004, 05:21 PM
not to but in on this feud between Japanese, Chinese, and other asian nations. But, im Chinese and i dont hold a grudge against the Japanese. What happened in the past is the past. If we continue to look back, we never look forward. Its like walking forward but looking behind you the whole time, sooner or later your bound to trip or get hurt. Times change, ppl change, we should all look to the future ahead of us not behind us.
Im Chinese, lived and educated in America, lived in Midwest, Southeast, and now California. What happened in Nanjing, China is NOT fake. There were American missionaries their that saw and recorded and took pictures of what happened there. What the Japanese did to the Chinese wasnt for just 4 years of WWII, the Japanese annexed China long before that. What they did in Nanjing was only scratching the surface. Westerners acknowledge what happened in Nanjing, they dont deny it. But as all ppl should do, they moved on. THe British were Americas most hated enemy 200+ years ago. Now they are AMerica's ally. I think Japan should fess up and acknowledge what really happened. If they dont, there will always be grudges as there are right now.
I dont support grudges. The rest of my family back in China still resent the Japanese for what they did. I think what they did was wrong, but im wiling to forgive and move forward together.
BTW-Japanese ppl are really polite. I was in Tokyo for a little while and everyone there was really nice!
barkerintokyo
Jul 1 2004, 08:19 PM
The Chinese government will continue to feed to its people the lie that if Japan gave a formal apology or acknowledged formally what had happened during WWII, then the Chinese would be more open and forgiving to us. The Chinese government will not stop making its continuous demands no matter what we do. When former Japanese prime ministers apologized for what happened, the Chinese government changed their position and started asking for a "formal" apology. When we started paying ODA to China, they started demanding formal "reparations." When we allowed individuals to get compensation from us, the Chinese demanded that we unconditionally give all who asked for it, money. Their demands will not end, and the second we admit formally whatever they want us to admit, then we will become their pet. We will have to bow down to all their wishes. I do not wish for this to happen. The only way we can maintain an okay relationship between China and Japan is for us to not acknowledge anything formally. Besides, the Japanese government has never denied anything before. The government has neither acknowledged or denied, we are letting historians debate that.
Made in China
Jul 1 2004, 08:21 PM
^BLAH BLAH BLAH!!
Ogumo
Jul 1 2004, 09:49 PM
Meatball:
QUOTE
When former Japanese prime ministers apologized for what happened, the Chinese government changed their position and started asking for a "formal" apology.
I know what you are talking about. However wouldnt it be the wise thing for japanese government just to give them this formal appology and record the event? Then move the hell on. Of course it would. However refuse for what ever reason.
QUOTE
When we allowed individuals to get compensation from us, the Chinese demanded that we unconditionally give all who asked for it, money
.
Now we cant be doing that. I am sketchy on the compensation thing. The easiest thing for japan would be to simply pay the government one large payment and be done with it. My problem with this is what will the chinese choose to do with this money and how much negative effect will it have on japan. If anything we should just let them off of the debt they owe to japan from the 70s (?).
QUOTE
Their demands will not end, and the second we admit formally whatever they want us to admit, then we will become their pet.
Interesting point. I never want to see japan become to china what germany is too the jews and isreal. That would put japan at disadvantage. Appologizing to them revision of the history books (of course there must be a protocol set up about explaining why the modern japanese children of today should not feel guilt for what happened over years ago. We cant have breeding ground of apologetic japanese. This behavior brings weakness in the long run. If the amount of time spent on educating japanese children of the crimes of imperial japan is two days. The session on explaining to them specifically to feel no guilt should be four.) if we do it correctly. It would ultimately benefit us. They would be off of our backs about not acknowleging these events and they would get what they wanted these past decades. Everyone wins.
QUOTE
We will have to bow down to all their wishes. I do not wish for this to happen.
What the hell makes you say that? I can't wait to hear this one. I dont really agree with it.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.