Borthel house in Indonesia eventhough theoritically illegal but open like night bazar, in Surabaya they put the women in glass window which everyone can see it from road.

Maybe you heard about Saritem, it's localisation in Bandung in the middle of residential when I said redisential is really pure residential with these residential people do not have anything to do with this prostitution activity.

The only thing the differentiate between normal houses and borthel houses is just beer bintang sign. And kids from normal house roaming around in the front yard of borthel houses. I don't know how those kids grow up in the place of sex exploitation.

By regarding most Indons are muslim and coming from strong traditions people which normally put highly place female in society I think Indons especially in Java island has this exception.

No, I don't have your experience in visiting brothels. I've only heard the famous prostitution centre in Batam and Tanjungpinang at Riau which is very famous amongst Singaporeans.



err.. what are you doing in the brothels again? I don't think it is to appreciate the "high place of female in society".

I think prostitutes came from all ethnicity and brothels existed everywhere, even in Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Drugs and Prostitution Soar in Iran

Why do have to be so mad?
It's indeed indecent.Why don't you go and show those pictures to your parents and see what have they got to say about it.
We are Asians,kaya dengan tatatertib dan adab.
Even the Europeans know how to behave.

Yes,it is your country.But it is not fair to say, that small group of immoral people is a potrayal of Indonesian people as a whole.

I think what mbak furan said, it is not in ur place to judge what is immoral and what is moral.

BTW Europeans these days treated sex very lightly, they mostly adhere to the free-sex principle and nearly all Europan countries legalise prostitution. Similar attitudes in Japan and China.

My respond for the first paragraph is, how I judge a thing is based on what society judge on that particular thing too. I'm sure most Indonesians would find those pictures as immoral and indecent. If this is Brazilian/Mexican Chat Room, I wouldn't pose such a comment as it is part of their culture.

For the second paragraph, it is just a mere generalisation and it is also overstated.

It is not in ur place as a Malaysian to tell Indonesians what we should consider immoral/indecent, particularly since many Malaysians do the same so-called "immoral/indecent" acts as well, and I've seen many Malaysians doing more sexually arousing moves than the simple dancing shown here.



It is fact.

Yes, I know that happens in Malaysia (and anywhere) but I won't go and post those pics as if I am so proud of it.
Why can't I make comments? I can make comments about Indonesia. I want to make comments about Indonesia because I care about Indonesia.I care because Indonesia is culturally similar to Malaysia.I care because we share the same religion.Do you think I would care if that pictures have been posted in Thai/Phillipines Chat?I don't think so.But I would still regard it as indecent though.I don't how their people would respond to those pictures.But I'm sure every parents don't want their daughter to act like a slut/whore regardless or their ethnicity/religion/nationality.

Let me reiterate for you: in many place in Indonesian especially in Java brothel house operated openly in public place even in residential community area.
Prostitutes women being put in glass houses which everyone even small kids who pass the the road can see them.
You don't need to go to special zone brothel houses (ideally) to see brothel house but in Indonesia they have sense of humor maybe sense of immorality they put brothel houses scatter between residential.


Those prostitutes coming from Java for Batam and Singaporean consumer many of them are under ages.


Since you are insisting, look the list below where you can find husbands many of them selling their wifes and parent selling their kids to become prostitutes.
Look at on column from where they coming from?!
Mostly either they coming from Java or Sunda.
I am very surprised why this people easily let their family member becoming prostitutes? Can you answer?

The list compilation of human trafficking in Indonesian.
Indonesia!



People will laughing at you if brothel exist in Saudi Arabia. Prostitutes there will be punished by death penalty.
Indeed there are hidden or secret prostitutions among migrant worker but you can guess again where they are coming from.

what kind of a reaction is this.
you don't go out often do you :b

i was actually directed to this thread.. it's been a while.. and i couldn't help but post a comment. anyway i agree with tengkuafif and nusantara..

cheap, skanky, tacky, easy behaviour.. but hey.. if that's how u like 'em...

anyway don't mind me.. continue your gawking

normal girls don't act like that. normal respectful girls don't dance around on tables, sticking their butts out, allowing random guys to lick their behinds.

tables? hahha.
how do you know that guy on those pics is a random guy.
it's probably a friend of hers, or her boyfriend.
sometimes when i check out party pics i see that kind of pics.
it's nothin. big deal.

edit: "lick" their åsses? c'mon. it's only pretending (duh).

ok you're right, i'm making assumptions

No,it was not an assumption. You were right in saying that.
Just imagine this:
How would you feel if that was your daughter in the picture?
It's not about being open-minded or not.
It's more about how people perceive such a thing.

.. ok i'll try and imagine it..


*imagining*




OMG!! what the hell is she thinking??!? i didn't raise her up to be a dirty scrag!!! stupid skank!




*regains composure*


i no longer have a daughter.

s eyes

anyway..

i regrettably took a 2nd look at those dirtay pix.. and i noticed that a guy in pink groping her breasts, and a guy in black 'pretending' to lick her butt hole. how pleasant.

LOLZ cmon man.. I've been to Bandung hundreds of times and never heard of this brothel area you mentioned. Peeps from outside Bandung wouldn't know of this place. And brothels are not placed in main highways/tourist places since it is actually illegal and the police do raids on prostitutes a lot.

One can only end up in a prostitution localisation only if one deliberately look for the place.



Insisting that ALL prostitutes in Batam (a Malay-majority area) to come from Java is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?


Now you're talking abt a whole new problem, human trafficking.

Your statement is incorrect. Actually most of the data has got nothing to do with being "sold" by ur family, and definately nothing to do with ethnicity. Instead, most of the victims on that list were tricked by the human traffickers, by being promised jobs, by pretending to adopt them if they were orphans, or they were outrightly kidnapped.

I think you should not be too obsessed by seeing everything in terms of ethnicity.


That is so disgusting, the "prostitutes" in Saudi Arabia are mostly Southeast Asian workers who thought they'll work as housemaids but were forced into sexual slavery by some dirty Saudi Arabian employers to serve Arab clients.

That you can blame the victims of such cruel exploitation instead of those who forced them into sexual slavery is shocking.

It is good if you care about Indonesia. But, you must know, most Indonesians are not strict Muslims, many are non-Muslims. So, many of us have different value systems than yours. Many forummers here are frequent partygoers like the peeps in the pics. You have no right to judge people as "immoral" just because they like to party. Respect this difference.

Yes,do anything you want but please know how to respect the public. Go and have pot,sex,beer,orgy,threesome or anything you want but at the mean time don't cause uneasiness to the public. What different value system are you talking about? I am talking global here and everyone in this world will surely hold the majority's opinion.I'm not a judgmental person.But sometimes you just have to know how to behave accordingly,depends on the place and time.

jesus christ man. how old do you think that girl is on those pics.

ahahhah. hm...maybe she IS a slut...
i thought it was the same guy. but it looks liek it's the same guy. whatever

This is true, Malays are so religious compared to the Javanese, Betawi, Minang, Makassarese etc2. You can just see this difference by looking at the girls. In Jakarta you can see girls wearing sexy outfits, but if you ask their religion, they'll say Islam. Whereas almost all Malay girls would wear Jilbab in Malaysia (don't know so much bout in Sumatra). Indonesia is also not an Moslem country, even if it has the most Moslem population in the world.

Do Malays also practice those believes out of the religion? My family for example go to klenteng to seek advice (not dukun, cuz they suck), do selamatan, taught me as a kid to always finish my food, because if not godess Sri will cry, eat kue pandan while facing east when we moved to another house for the first time, claim that they have powers (many types), open up their wallets when someone died (so that it brings fortune), claim to have guardians, etc2. Come to think of it, my family is pretty weird. But if you ask their religion, they'll say Islam.

Back to the topic, in general, I think Indonesians would not mind.
(At least the Indonesians in this forum wouldn't)

What do you mean, uneasiness to the public? These peeps are just dancing in a club. A club is the place one is supposed to dance and drink. Its not like they are bothering anybody, they were not drinking and dancing in a mosque. How can they "cause uneasiness" in the public?

Please, don't force your rigid religious value system on us.

Of course they didn't cause uneasiness in public because they weren't at public places but their act is an uneasiness to the public, be it private or public.

Don't play around with words, mate. It is useless. To say that dancing "cause uneasiness" to the public is ridicilous. Such statements is typical only to Taleban-like religious zealots.

Remember, Indonesia IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BECOME an Islamic country.

Did I say anything about dancing and dressing sexily?
No.
And, I have nothing against it.
But,just look at the pictures.
Have you seen those pictures posted here yet?
All these while I have been talking about the pictures.
Not Indonesian people as a whole.

Inul Daratista aka Ainul Rokhimah, dangdut singer popular for her gyraing arse dance known as ngebor. Her erotic dance made her extremely popular in Indonesia and even in Malaysia, making her an extremely rich lady virtually overnight.

I doubt you heard about Saritem since you lives in fantasy island called Australia where people respecting their women more than aborigins Indons.

Saritem problematics mentioned many times in TV. Police was raiding this place during Ramadhan to temporary close but mistakenly taking female resident in that place. But it will open again 2 days after raiding because most brothels house in Indonesia got protection from military syndicate.

If you typing “Wanita Tuna Susila Bandung” in goggle, Saritem will appear on the first case. This brothels place located in the middle of residential community.

Lets watch this funny video where police raiding prostitutes in Saritem, but one of the female they raided actually is local resident which spark the angers of locals resident.

Saritem yum yum

Interesting isn't it, Only happened in Indonesia, where brothel house in the middle of community.
Can you explain this phenomenom?
Do you think this is normal? may be yes prostitution scattered around residential normal for you.



It was malay majority but not anymore now mostly ugly majority aborigines. Before Batam transform to Industrial area there were only 5000 Malay houses scattered through the islands.


Most those Javanese and Sundanese female being tricked by thier own family member, worstly their husband.

This phenomenom is not religious related it's all about culture.

Javanese and Sundanese are muslim meanwhile Acehnese, Riau, Jambi etc are muslim too but do you see many prostitutes coming from Aceh, Jambi and Riau? Mostly from Java.

Toba Batak are Cristian, meanwhile Manadonese are Cristian, and most high class prostitutes in brothel in disguise of karaoke place in Surabaya and Jakarta are Manadonese. But there are rare Batak women in brothel place?

You see the pattern?



Previously you mentioned there are brothels in Saudi Arabia and Iran, will you back up your claim? Can you?

People will laugh at you trying to comparing situation of prostitution in Saudi Arabia and Indonesia.

Man, you are dreaming.., there are no Saudi employers selling their foreign workers to Saudi clients for sex slave, Do you have proof? Or is it another your uncle stories?
if that happened and goes to Police case, the Saudis guy will loose everything perhaps his life too. Beside Saudis not that immoral unlike most aborigines Indons.

Hidden prostitutes indeed exist in Saudi Arabia in secretly among migrant workers, Indonesians are among them. For Indonesians case prostitution in Saudi Arabia mostly Indonesians male enslaving Indonesians female to serve the guest of others immigrant workers. Most this females prostitutes coming from overstayed working visa or she run away from their Saudis employer and end up working as prostitutes to Indonesian male pimps and sell her to serve others migrant workers guest.

Acheh is Islamic province.

LOL, in Australia where prostitution is legal, you can find a listing of brothels on the Yellow Pages. There is even a Melbourne brothel that sells shares in the stock exchange.



Aahh.. why don't you say you know so much about the brothels from TV before? I thought you went to the brothels to use their service.




LOL don't put words into my mouth, mate. I never said it is normal to hv brothels in residential areas.


Aborigines? What are you talking about?



Actually, most of the cases on your link, the Javanese, Sundanese, Malay, and other female victims were tricked by strangers.



It is economic.



This is just what you said. What's your source? I have no idea abt who are the prostitutes since I've never been to any brothels, unlike you.



EFAF HOUSE: RELIGIOUSLY LICENSED PROSTITUTION IN IRAN

ARAB BROTHEL IN RIYADH



Do you have proof of this deep knowledge of Saudi Arabian prostitution? Or is it just your story?

yeah really

no i don't find those girls attractive. It is not the behaviour that turns me off, to me they r just dancing, but physically they r not attractive anyways.

yeah? what about inul?

It is legal in Australia but take a look at the situation in Indonesia, the prostitution is illegal yet brothel house scattered everywhere even in the middle of public residentials.
Who is worst?



It is well known which ethnic who are make up of most Indonesian prostitutes.


How you claim the story of expat Arab from lebanon living behind their compund (apartment) and live like the way their lives back in their country, as your claim to say there are brothels house in Saudi?
Can you find other sources? Didn't you say there are brothel houses in Saudi.

Cases of Iran above, they are planning whether to legalise or not prostitution localization in some special district area.



Most hdden prostitution in Saudi are migrant workers to serve others migrant workers due to the shortage of female among migrant workers. Very rare Saudi national get involve.

From 20 million Saudi population there are about 6 million foreign migrant workers.

http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/saudia.htm

inul apa?

i doubt it's only muslims who find some of these pix degrading and disgusting. u'd be hard pressed to find devout christians, hindus or whatever dress and act like those girls.

Yeah,I agree!
Just watch 'A Walk To Remember'.

i found out a girl in the peterpan-mungkin nanti music video very beautiful and cute.....what is her name and do u guys have any pic of her???

ohhh I know...!! shoot forgot her name

Julie something...

she's the girl who played in catatan akhir sekolah right?

A-ha!
Now,I remember!
It's Julie Estelle!!!
Yup,Julie Estelle.

no..her name is Joanna Alexandra...but its so hard to find her pic...anyone wanna try to find it?furan maybe...

we have 2 girls. we have girl A and girl B. girl A dresses and acts like a skank. girl B is a modest, chaste girl.

here is girl A


alone, yearning for companionship, desperately seeking a man to embrace and protect her.

here is girl B


not alone. she has a hot spunk, who proposes to her, and although she dies of cancer not long after her wedding day, she leaves the world loved.

LOL actually this actress, Lola Amaria, has a boyfriend, the director Aria Kusumadewa

OK, enough talking abt brothels, let's go back to business:









Alexandra Joanna Kairupan, 18-years old model

why is she soo sluttyy now!! eww

perhaps because it is hot at her place... as hot and tense as indonesian chat recently

(oh not again...)
tell me, where exactly is she slutty...

the last picture..!!
sorry this is just my opinion..
everyone have different opinion so yeah..

uhm...you know what?
NEVERMIND