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radha_chopra112
QUOTE(sun.hee @ Sep 12 2006, 12:18 AM) *

ah, no. I haven't seen an English book about her, at least not that I'm aware of... a pity. icon_sad.gif

Also, I forgot to add, I agree that Untouchables may be one of the most courageous. With suffering comes perseverance and endurance, traits found in most greatest characters of the world. They are people to be venerated in their own rights. They deserve it. beerchug.gif



to bad, i'll look for a book on the topic icon_wink.gif

Cheonmin were also very brave for all the persecution they indured. icon_sad.gif
jiggyiggy
Screw enduring persecution and being marginilized, revolution is long overdue, it's time to kill whitey. icon_twisted.gif
gomeny
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 11 2006, 09:28 PM) *

That's in rural regions. There are many successful Dalits (Untouchables) in the urban regions. The previous President of India, K. R. Narayanan, was even a Dalit himself.


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"hey little kids maybe someday you can be just like K. R. Narayanan."
jiggyiggy
The revolutionaries of tomorrow, you betta put your people on notice gom :o
Ino
QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Sep 9 2006, 05:22 PM) *

First of all, please no flaming. Lets have a thoughtful, civilized discussion here.

I just read this old blog post here.
http://www.madhoo.com/archives/2004/08/white_people_bl.php

And must say I have to agree with it. It really seems to be true that Indians complain about how they are treated by white people in America but then are racist themselves against blacks and latinos for instance.

What do you guys have to say about this?


indian people in toronto are generally nice. I see alot of Indians in and around koreatown and chinatown hanging out with the locals and whatnot. i guess its different by region.
Jagger
QUOTE(sun.hee @ Sep 12 2006, 05:37 AM) *

^yes, well, racism is still very prevalent. subconscious, conscious. icon_neutral.gif
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I remember a while back, I read an article in National Geographic about the Untouchables (yes, in the rurals). Their tales almost brought tears to my eyes. I have two friends from India who are Brahmins and they used to tell me stories about their experiences regarding the Untouchables. A lot of sorrow.

It's unfortunate how Dalits are treated by villagers in rural regions. It's mostly due to a lack of education if anything. The government is trying to improve the situation, and so far, it has worked in the cities. They should hopefully be seen as equals in the villages aswell, as India develops more.

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 12 2006, 05:41 AM) *

There's also affirmative action towards lower-caste Hindus now.

I heard higher-caste Hindus are adopting lower-caste last names to receive affirmative action! embarassedlaugh.gif

Tne father of the Indian constitution was a Dalit too.

India was actually the first country in the world to implement Affirmative Action, back in the 19th century, before any Western countries. You can read more about it at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation_in_India

QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Sep 12 2006, 06:37 AM) *

Screw enduring persecution and being marginilized, revolution is long overdue, it's time to kill whitey. icon_twisted.gif

Indeed, it's time destroy all of those Aryan oppressors! icon_twisted.gif
FrenchVanillaNYC
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Father: Don’t trust these black people - they are jealous about us because we are whiter [than them].

embarassedlaugh.gif This is a crazy quote. I know loads of black people "whiter" than loads of Indians, not to mention that I rarely have ever met Indians who are "whiter" than me and I'm black myself.

QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Sep 10 2006, 06:03 PM) *

what i mean by that is i thought blacks and indians intermarry ALOT and quite commonly . that is why if people see a black girl with wavy non-african hair, people refer it to 'indian hair' and will come to the conclusion that 'she has indian in her' thus giving me a sense that indians and blacks intermarry and is something that's not rare ...

btw, is that caste system still present in india?

That's the wrong "Indian". In America, when someone says "Indian hair", they're referring to Native American ancestry.

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 11 2006, 06:36 PM) *

What's funny though is that Desi parents will prefer a black-skinned Desi over a light-skinned black.

You got to love the hypocrisy.

It makes sense to me. Even though the dark Desi is dark, at least the person is of the same culture.
gomeny
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 12 2006, 01:41 PM) *


Indeed, it's time destroy all of those Aryan oppressors! icon_twisted.gif

Huns, parsis, and Tom Alter watchout icon_twisted.gif
ExpressYourself
French Vanilla...you look a bit like Halle Berry (that's a compliment. icon_wink.gif )


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indian people in toronto are generally nice


Haha...the most racist Indians on South Asian forums ironically come from Toronto and other Canadian cities, especially the pro-Khalistani Sikhs that hate being called Indian. eek.gif
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Sep 12 2006, 08:10 PM) *

French Vanilla...you look a bit like Halle Berry (that's a compliment. icon_wink.gif )
Haha...the most racist Indians on South Asian forums ironically come from Toronto and other Canadian cities, especially the pro-Khalistani Sikhs that hate being called Indian. eek.gif

wtf are u talking about... i m from toronto ..we aint any racist. one can meet some khalistanis in gurudwaras but most punjabis dont care about khalistan.
ExpressYourself
I was talking about various Indian forums. I don't know how Toronto people are offline.

But, some of the nice people can be racist behind your back. People that talk $hit online could put on a happy "I don't care what you are" face outside of their home.
gomeny
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Sep 12 2006, 06:25 PM) *

wtf are u talking about... i m from toronto ..we aint any racist. one can meet some khalistanis in gurudwaras but most punjabis dont care about khalistan.

I heard this as well from a mhona(SP?) as well that whole Khalistan thing is over-stated.
AgentBach
no different from blacks complaining about racism but being racist to practically every other group in the US. And if they people deserve to get noticed for violations against their civil liberties, than Indians should also.
radha_chopra112
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