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Thay_
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NGO Vows Support for Rights of Khmer Krom
By Yun Samean

A European NGO said Tuesday it had accepted 15 ethnic Khmers from Kampuchea Krom as members and would press the European Union to edits support of the current Vietnamese government. The Khmer Krom are persecuted under the Vietnam¡¯s communist government, but "will receive their freedom when our struggle succeeds" from political party president and EU parliamentarian Marco Pannella said at a news conference Tuesday. The Transnational Radical Party calls itself a political party as well as an NGO, and has about 3,000 members worldwide, said spokesman David Carrretta. It states it primary aim as promoting democracy and fighting human rights abuses.

At a news conference last week, Thach Setha, executive director of the Khmer Kampuchea Krom Community, presented a report detailing offenses against ethnic Khmers living conditions are survival-level and freedoms mostly quashed among the Khmer Krom, the reports says. Monks are forced into duties, such as canal-digging, that go against their religious beliefs, it states. "Serious human rights violations in Vietnam are worse than in [Burma]," it states. Parliamentarian Son Chhay gave the report to US Secretary of Sate Colin Powell during his visit to Phnom Penh. Nyeing Thun Doc, a spokesman for the Vietnamese Embassy, refused to comment on the report last week, saying he had not seen it.

Earlier this month King Norodom Sihanouk sent a letter to Thach Setha¡¯s group agreeing to sign a petition asking France to annual a 1949 law ceding Kampuchea Krom to Vietnam. The King said the petition also must be signed by the President of the National Assembly, the Senate and the Prime Minister.

(The Cambodia Daily, June 25, 2003)



Posted on 2003-06-26
Back to [Human Rights News 200306 JUN 2003]



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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...y+of+Khmer+Krom

Cambodia Human Rights Site
Asian Human Rights Commission


http://cambodia.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/ne.../661/?print=yes
Swa_King_80
How can I help?

-Swa King-
holamon
Bravo for Khmer Krom. Don't give up hope people. One day all Khmers will be freed and strong again.

@SWA King

You can help Khmer Krom by donating money to Khmer Krom cause or by making outsiders (Americans friends, etc.) aware about the plight of our people in Kampuchea Krom. Also, don't forget to work hard in school if you are still a student so that one day you can go back to Srok Khmer or Kampuchea Krom to help rebuild the country.
Swa_King_80
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RockHeart
GOOD WORK!!!! Please continue to spread UP your VOICES are more LOUGLY!!!
Our KhmerLand is almost become a liberty!!!!



RockHeart.



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Thay_
Thanks for all positive response. Khmer Krom will never give up. Khmer Krom communities around the world are still fight for freedom, step by step, little by little. First UNPO, then NGO, now currently at getting our voices heard at the UN Indigenous Forum. beerchug.gif

http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/index.html

Same as education, hard work will be paid, if not now then later for our children to obtain. biggrin.gif
Jotmaimamoreaj
All khmers from around the world will support khmer krom. beerchug.gif
nobodyknown
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DAI_VIET
Errhh...
Jotmaimamoreaj
Stuck???
DAI_VIET
Hmmm...
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Dai_Viet, stop being a post whore. LOL

But anyway, yes to rights, no to independence.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 27 2004, 08:57 PM)
Dai_Viet, stop being a post whore. LOL

But anyway, yes to rights, no to independence.

LOL.

They will deserve rights when they earn the rights. Independence? Disregard.
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Jotmaimamoreaj
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Jul 27 2004, 09:02 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 27 2004, 08:57 PM)
Dai_Viet, stop being a post whore. LOL

But anyway, yes to rights, no to independence.

LOL.

They will deserve rights when they earn the rights. Independence? Disregard.

That is all in your heart, but goes according the international law. Yes Kampuchea krom has the right for Independence. You had the illegal wrong doing to take over the land. They had the right to be taken it back.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Jotmaimamoreaj @ Jul 28 2004, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Jul 27 2004, 09:02 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 27 2004, 08:57 PM)
Dai_Viet, stop being a post whore. LOL

But anyway, yes to rights, no to independence.

LOL.

They will deserve rights when they earn the rights. Independence? Disregard.

That is all in your heart, but goes according the international law. Yes Kampuchea krom has the right for Independence. You had the illegal wrong doing to take over the land. They had the right to be taken it back.

Man, who the hell taught you guys history in school? Give me their names and I'll fire them!


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akara
Don't speak as though you learned this history in school. icon_rolleyes.gif Please....you're just reading stuff off the internet like almost everybody else. Your opinion on the matter does not hold anymore weight than the next person's.
nobodyknown
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Jul 28 2004, 04:41 PM)
QUOTE (Jotmaimamoreaj @ Jul 28 2004, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Jul 27 2004, 09:02 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 27 2004, 08:57 PM)
Dai_Viet, stop being a post whore. LOL

But anyway, yes to rights, no to independence.

LOL.

They will deserve rights when they earn the rights. Independence? Disregard.

That is all in your heart, but goes according the international law. Yes Kampuchea krom has the right for Independence. You had the illegal wrong doing to take over the land. They had the right to be taken it back.

Man, who the hell taught you guys history in school? Give me their names and I'll fire them!


embarassedlaugh.gif

Ar Chang Rai DAI_VEIT Stop Showing your stupid old fool here.
RockHeart
Do you think the people who came from Da Nang are so idiot??? sure.gif
Thay_
To ALL Khmers, don't let a bunch of @$$h()le tell what you can and can't achieve.

The Khmer Krom people will do everything they can to get their voice heard and the cruelty treatment of Khmer Krom by the Vietnamese shall be heard.

Funny, THEY talk about NO independence and NO rights, funny how do THEY feel when the FRENCH control their LAND?

When a kid grow up, their mother teach them not to steal. However, I guess these @$$h()le didn't learn or is it their mother teach them how to steal? beerchug.gif
DAI_VIET
Wierd people. I am so done with these dumb idiots.

Last 2 words in the khmer section.


Manifest Destiny.
akara
The Americans also believed it was their manifest destiny to control ALL of North America. Obviously that didn't happen. What's your point? Are those two words supposed to win you the argument by default? What, did you think that it's Vietnam's manifest destiny to control SE Asia? At least explain yourself....don't just throw up a vague concept and expect everyone to understand your side. Show some damn intelligence on your part since you speak so condescendingly.
aaronly
QUOTE (akara @ Jul 29 2004, 03:05 PM)
The Americans also believed it was their manifest destiny to control ALL of North America. Obviously that didn't happen. What's your point? Are those two words supposed to win you the argument by default? What, did you think that it's Vietnam's manifest destiny to control SE Asia? At least explain yourself....don't just throw up a vague concept and expect everyone to understand your side. Show some damn intelligence on your part since you speak so condescendingly.

4 words for you Nam Tien Muon Doi
Virvs
An incidence cause by google searching engine leads me to this thread. I by chance have a wonderful solution which, in my humble opinion, may satisfy both Khmer Kroms, Viets, and Khmers... Do you want to hear?

What if the people of Khmer Krom, both Khmers and Viets, vote to secede from Vietnam and join Cambodia? In short, it is an annexation of Khmer Krom into a larger Khmer kingdom without the displacement/ethnic cleansing of Viets. We Viets will be happy to pay homage to the Khmer kings as well, since constitutional monarchy not as bad as communism...

The problem is, do you Khmers welcome your Viets compatriot-to-be with open arms?
GenomVirues
QUOTE (Virvs @ Oct 14 2005, 03:38 AM)
An incidence cause by google searching engine leads me to this thread. I by chance have a wonderful solution which, in my humble opinion, may satisfy both Khmer Kroms, Viets, and Khmers... Do you want to hear?

What if the people of Khmer Krom, both Khmers and Viets, vote to secede from Vietnam and join Cambodia? In short, it is an annexation of Khmer Krom into a larger Khmer kingdom without the displacement/ethnic cleansing of Viets. We Viets will be happy to pay homage to the Khmer kings as well, since constitutional monarchy not as bad as communism...

The problem is, do you Khmers welcome your Viets compatriot-to-be with open arms?
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There are about 30 plus millions Vietnamese currently living in the Saigon alone.

The cambodian population is about 13 millions.

Khmer krom in Vietnam is about 5 millions?

hmmp lets see..if south Vietnam is to be annex into Cambodia...might as well call the country "New Vietnam" since the Vietnamese outnumbered khmer by a ratio of 5 to 3.

I doubt that the Khmer would want south Vietnam back alone with the Vietnamese because then they will end up losing everything.,,but um yeah..great idea though biggthumpup.gif
trdogo
QUOTE (GenomVirues @ Oct 14 2005, 06:53 PM)
QUOTE (Virvs @ Oct 14 2005, 03:38 AM)
An incidence cause by google searching engine leads me to this thread. I by chance have a wonderful solution which, in my humble opinion, may satisfy both Khmer Kroms, Viets, and Khmers... Do you want to hear?

What if the people of Khmer Krom, both Khmers and Viets, vote to secede from Vietnam and join Cambodia? In short, it is an annexation of Khmer Krom into a larger Khmer kingdom without the displacement/ethnic cleansing of Viets. We Viets will be happy to pay homage to the Khmer kings as well, since constitutional monarchy not as bad as communism...

The problem is, do you Khmers welcome your Viets compatriot-to-be with open arms?
*


There are about 30 plus millions Vietnamese currently living in the Saigon alone.

The cambodian population is about 13 millions.

Khmer krom in Vietnam is about 5 millions?

hmmp lets see..if south Vietnam is to be annex into Cambodia...might as well call the country "New Vietnam" since the Vietnamese outnumbered khmer by a ratio of 5 to 3.

I doubt that the Khmer would want south Vietnam back alone with the Vietnamese because then they will end up losing everything.,,but um yeah..great idea though biggthumpup.gif
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5 to 10 millilions Khmers in the South of VN? Highly doubt.

I live in Saigon for 10 years and usually go to the Mekong Delta but have not meet a single Khmer.

So the official figure of 1.3 millions is reliable.
Virvs
There are in fact a lot of Khmers in Southern Vietnam, notably in An Giang and Tra Vinh provinces. There are few Khmers in Saigon as far as I know, but when studying in university (in Saigon) I'd got two Khmer classmates (among 50 students in the class) both from Tra Vinh province, one has Vietnamese name and the other still retain his Khmer name (so there is no forced Vietnamization under communism, ok?). They all had the privilege to live in the dormitory since they are Khmers, while the majority of Viets students can not afford to live in the dorm. There are much more Khmer students in my university, most of them are friendly, and the only discrimination is that Khmer students always get more incentive favour than us Viet students...

Now go to the main point:

As the official statistic shows, there is around 1 million or more Khmers in Southern Vietnam. We also have reckon the number of Viets within Cambodia's borders, which is more than half a million (? anti-Vietnamese webpages usually give much higher numbers, however). Besides, the number of Viets in Southern Vietnam is not as high as 30 million.

I use the data here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Vietnam

I have the sum of the population of the provinces in Southern Vietnam is about 28 million. Then I have to subtract the number of other ethnics, notably the Khmers and the Chinese, which I round to 2 million. Then I have the result of 26 million --> the number of Viets in Southern Vietnam.

Now we may conclude the demographic status of the Great Khmer Empire (or New Vietnam, if you prefer, but I'd rather use the former).

Viets: 26 m (in S.Vie) + 0.5 m (in Cam)= 26.5 m
Khmers: 12 m (in Cam.) + 1 m (in S.Vie) = 13 m
Chinese 0.85 m (in S.Vie) + 0.15 m (in Cam) = 1 m (rounded)
Other ethnics (approximately) = 0.5 m
Total: 41 m

---> Viets (65%), Khmers (32%), Chinese (2%), Other (1%).

I will be happier if this Khmer state becomes a federal republic, but constitutional monarchy is ok.
GenomVirues
funny coz when i checked Winkipedia it gave me 7 millions khmer in south vietnam icon_smile.gif
(since i cant trust winkupedia and khmer krom so i'll go with the VN official and agree that it is 1.3 million khmer living in VN.)


the 13 millions khmer in cambodia is from CIA world factbook.

as for the vietnamese in south vn i forgot where i got it from, but it should be 30 millions or more vietnamese (kinh) alone, exluding the illegal resident.
worker_bee
QUOTE (Virvs @ Oct 14 2005, 03:38 AM)
What if the people of Khmer Krom, both Khmers and Viets, vote to secede from Vietnam and join Cambodia? In short, it is an annexation of Khmer Krom into a larger Khmer kingdom without the displacement/ethnic cleansing of Viets. We Viets will be happy to pay homage to the Khmer kings as well, since constitutional monarchy not as bad as communism...


Speak for yourself, thằng Việt Gian bán nước! You remind me of another Việt Gian known as saigon76NYC and JimTungLe although most Viets in here don't consider him Vietnamese since he swears loyalty to the Cambodians even though he's not very proud of his Khmer background. You and he both want to give up southern Vietnam to Cambodia. If you don't like Vietnamese that much, you should consider moving to Cambodia then see how they'll treat you. You should congratulate yourself for gaining a brand new enemy.
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