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Turtle
Do many Filipinos have this? It is called IMSCF Syndrome..

"I'm Spanish, Chinese, Filipino". The name of the syndrome itself is an acronym formed from the first letters of this recited phrase.

The phenomenon is said to stem from the aspiration of Filipinos to better their perceived pedigree to conform to the standards and ideals of their adoptive countries. The origins of the syndrome, however, can be traced further back in history to the already existing colonial mentality phenomenon of the Philippines, and can be viewed as a manifestation of this mentality taken on a new form in their new places of residence.

The topic of ancestry among Filipinos is often a very touchy subject. Influenced by factors steeming from colonial mentality, the trend in the Philippines has always been to place emphasis on any foreign blood, preferably European (Spanish or white American) and to exalt it, and when in the overwhelming majority of cases none was there, to invent it.

Many Filipino families have a tradition of handing down oral accounts of the Spanish great-great-grandfather or the mestisa great-great-grandmother with no evidence other than a Spanish surname. However, unlike the people of the Hispanic world, of the millions of Spanish-surnamed Filipinos, none but a few families in the Philippines inherited their surnames from an actual Iberian ancestor. The overwhelming majority of Filipinos with Spanish or Spanish-sounding surnames acquired them as a result of the Catálogo Alfabético de Apellidos ("Alphabetical Catalogue of Surnames") decreed to be imposed on all native Filipinos by the Spanish royal courts.

The continuing prevalence of the syndrome is attributed to the negative international image of the Philippines and to the lack, or invisibility, of Filipino role models in America or abroad for expatriate Filipino communities. As a result of this, numerous Filipino American youth are often said to downplay, deny, or outright forge their ancestry.
judy_maxwell
QUOTE(Turtle @ Sep 14 2006, 06:31 AM) *
..."I'm Spanish, Chinese, Filipino"...


hahaha i hear this line a lot, it's amusing. but of course, not everyone does it and those who do don't know any better.. i think
flipcombatmedic
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...c=81373&hl=

It's the "i don't know, I think saying more $hit makes me look cool" syndrome.
jenny_dgd04
I know I am pure filipino....I dont have any blood line running through my veins...it's a good thing.
Kanlungan
Oh god.. can't you guys dig older threads? THIS IS THE NTH THREAD FOR THIS ONE
peanutbutterjelly
IMSCF syndrome actually isn't as bad as any Filipinos trying to act and talk black..

I'm really tired of this issue...I for one am someone who has a Turkish-Filipino father and a Spanish-Filipino mother but it's a rare occasion when I initially say that I'm mixed unless if asked (which happens quite often)..

I am a proud Filipina woman and that is all there is to it.
stigmatopeople
HOLY crap.gif !! I KNOOOOW.. SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS..!! HAHA..

icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif im pure. but people mistake me for korean.. coz of me eyes.. so i tel em, am half.. mwaahaha.. and dey giv me free candy.. myayayay.. kick.gif naughty.gif nono.gif rotflmao.gif hahaha!...

naaaw..... hehe..some of em her.. win dey fers so me.. dey tot i was korean or something.. haha.. and i PROUDLY declared.. "im filipino"... mwahahaha!! embarassedlaugh.gif

i made no sense,, weee..!
ttizon
RE: IMSCF Syndrome

To the Wikipedia editors:

I'm writing to object to your entry regarding IMSCF Syndrome. There is no such syndrome. Although some of the described behaviors can be said to occur, these behaviors don't constitute a "syndrome," which by definition is a set of symptoms that collectively indicate a disease or disorder.

To characterize IMSCF Syndrome as a "non-academic" term doesn't go far enough. It is not only non-academic, non-scientific and non-official, it is mocking, mean-spirited and disingenuous. As far as I can tell, there is not a single credible document or source that has used the term in any serious way. I would guess it is used mostly as a form of ridicule. It isn't a new form of ridicule.

At one time in America, blacks who "acted white" were called Oreos: black on the outside, white on the inside. Asian-Americans were called bananas: white on the inside, yellow on the outside. Hispanics were called Burritos, etc. These behaviors, too, could be interpreted as human beings trying to assimilate into their surroundings. I suppose Wikipedia should then add "Oreo Cookie Syndrome" and "Oriental Banana Syndrome" to its list of terms.

There are infinite ways through which people try to superficially (or artificially) improve their perceived standing in society, not just in terms of racial pedigree but in all areas. They lie about their weight, they make themselves appear taller, they change their names to become more pronounceable and marketable, they say Manhattan instead of Harlem, London instead of Dublin, Hong Kong instead of Beijing. White people sun themselves to get tan; brown people shield themselves to stay lighter. Bald men get plugs; small-breasted women get implants. Are these all indicative of disease and disorder?

At the the very least, Wikipedia should state that syndromes are multiplying by the minute. By the end of this entry, there will have been new syndromes invented. Just last month, I was told that moving my feet at night actually indicates that I suffer from an illness; not just one but two: Periodic Leg Movements of Sleep Syndrome and Restless Legs Syndrome. And I thought it was just the caffeine.

I was also told that I laugh too much, which might indicate I suffer from Angelman's Syndrome. If I laugh at night, it's called Angelman P.M. Syndrome; in the morning, it's Angelman A.M Syndrome. If I laugh too much during Columbus Day, it's called Angelman Pre-Contact/Old World Syndrome. If I laugh too much during Columbas Day while eating chicken, it's called Angelman Pre-Contact/Old World Domestic Fowl Syndrome, better known by the experts as APCOWDF Syndrome.

It would behoove Wikipedia to delete the entry on IMSCF Syndrome, or at least characterize the term for what it is: a simple-minded generalization (disgusied as pseudo-sociology) -- from an anonymous source at that -- which feeds into a demeaning stereotype. The term distracts from what could be real and meaningful discussions on issues of shame and identity among once-colonized people.


Signed,

Tomas Alex Tizon
National Correspondent
The Los Angeles Times





Torete_ako_sa_yo
no one gives a fcuk if you've got european ancestry.
agthorn
Excellent and well writen piece. I had no idea what this IMSCF Syndrome was, and came accross it in a footnote on Wikipedia on one of the past contestants (a beautiful hawaian/Phillipian girl, can't remember her name). I found no reference defining this 'syndrome' that they had footnote to her, so I googled it and came to your writeup. I wold guess that you were probably directly responsible for wikipedia removing their 'definition' of this syndrome from their site. (Now I have to go back and find that footnote and get it removed!) Thanks for a very informative and well writen piece, which can only lead one to agree with your position (apparently wiki did) that such silly syndrome labeling is not only racist, but also foolish.

Thanks!

QUOTE(ttizon @ Oct 2 2006, 03:17 PM) *

RE: IMSCF Syndrome

To the Wikipedia editors:

I'm writing to object to your entry regarding IMSCF Syndrome. There is no such syndrome. Although some of the described behaviors can be said to occur, these behaviors don't constitute a "syndrome," which by definition is a set of symptoms that collectively indicate a disease or disorder.

To characterize IMSCF Syndrome as a "non-academic" term doesn't go far enough. It is not only non-academic, non-scientific and non-official, it is mocking, mean-spirited and disingenuous. As far as I can tell, there is not a single credible document or source that has used the term in any serious way. I would guess it is used mostly as a form of ridicule. It isn't a new form of ridicule.

At one time in America, blacks who "acted white" were called Oreos: black on the outside, white on the inside. Asian-Americans were called bananas: white on the inside, yellow on the outside. Hispanics were called Burritos, etc. These behaviors, too, could be interpreted as human beings trying to assimilate into their surroundings. I suppose Wikipedia should then add "Oreo Cookie Syndrome" and "Oriental Banana Syndrome" to its list of terms.

There are infinite ways through which people try to superficially (or artificially) improve their perceived standing in society, not just in terms of racial pedigree but in all areas. They lie about their weight, they make themselves appear taller, they change their names to become more pronounceable and marketable, they say Manhattan instead of Harlem, London instead of Dublin, Hong Kong instead of Beijing. White people sun themselves to get tan; brown people shield themselves to stay lighter. Bald men get plugs; small-breasted women get implants. Are these all indicative of disease and disorder?

At the the very least, Wikipedia should state that syndromes are multiplying by the minute. By the end of this entry, there will have been new syndromes invented. Just last month, I was told that moving my feet at night actually indicates that I suffer from an illness; not just one but two: Periodic Leg Movements of Sleep Syndrome and Restless Legs Syndrome. And I thought it was just the caffeine.

I was also told that I laugh too much, which might indicate I suffer from Angelman's Syndrome. If I laugh at night, it's called Angelman P.M. Syndrome; in the morning, it's Angelman A.M Syndrome. If I laugh too much during Columbus Day, it's called Angelman Pre-Contact/Old World Syndrome. If I laugh too much during Columbas Day while eating chicken, it's called Angelman Pre-Contact/Old World Domestic Fowl Syndrome, better known by the experts as APCOWDF Syndrome.

It would behoove Wikipedia to delete the entry on IMSCF Syndrome, or at least characterize the term for what it is: a simple-minded generalization (disgusied as pseudo-sociology) -- from an anonymous source at that -- which feeds into a demeaning stereotype. The term distracts from what could be real and meaningful discussions on issues of shame and identity among once-colonized people.
Signed,

Tomas Alex Tizon
National Correspondent
The Los Angeles Times

Elysia
QUOTE(Torete_ako_sa_yo @ Oct 2 2006, 07:02 PM) *

no one gives a fcuk if you've got european ancestry.



What if I said "no one gives a fcuk if you've got filipino ancestry"

Let people be proud of what they are (if that's really what they are). If they're not, then that's a problem they have and they have to deal with it.

Could people stop starting threads like this? It just breeds hate.
pinoyako
QUOTE(Turtle @ Sep 14 2006, 06:31 AM) *

Do many Filipinos have this? It is called IMSCF Syndrome..

"I'm Spanish, Chinese, Filipino". The name of the syndrome itself is an acronym formed from the first letters of this recited phrase.

The phenomenon is said to stem from the aspiration of Filipinos to better their perceived pedigree to conform to the standards and ideals of their adoptive countries. The origins of the syndrome, however, can be traced further back in history to the already existing colonial mentality phenomenon of the Philippines, and can be viewed as a manifestation of this mentality taken on a new form in their new places of residence.

The topic of ancestry among Filipinos is often a very touchy subject. Influenced by factors steeming from colonial mentality, the trend in the Philippines has always been to place emphasis on any foreign blood, preferably European (Spanish or white American) and to exalt it, and when in the overwhelming majority of cases none was there, to invent it.

Many Filipino families have a tradition of handing down oral accounts of the Spanish great-great-grandfather or the mestisa great-great-grandmother with no evidence other than a Spanish surname. However, unlike the people of the Hispanic world, of the millions of Spanish-surnamed Filipinos, none but a few families in the Philippines inherited their surnames from an actual Iberian ancestor. The overwhelming majority of Filipinos with Spanish or Spanish-sounding surnames acquired them as a result of the Catálogo Alfabético de Apellidos ("Alphabetical Catalogue of Surnames") decreed to be imposed on all native Filipinos by the Spanish royal courts.

The continuing prevalence of the syndrome is attributed to the negative international image of the Philippines and to the lack, or invisibility, of Filipino role models in America or abroad for expatriate Filipino communities. As a result of this, numerous Filipino American youth are often said to downplay, deny, or outright forge their ancestry.

only those who is born abroad, and please stop making this stuped tread....... it make me sick.
Kanlungan
QUOTE(Elysia @ Mar 9 2007, 11:05 PM) *

What if I said "no one gives a fcuk if you've got filipino ancestry"

Let people be proud of what they are (if that's really what they are). If they're not, then that's a problem they have and they have to deal with it.

Could people stop starting threads like this? It just breeds hate.



I thought you're never coming back. Welcome back, sis
Horitaka
Whenever people tell me they're something else, and it's obvious that they are full of $hit, I usually say "too bad"
Kanlungan
I can only conclude but I think the syndrome and term was coined by a Hawaiian, Kalany Mondoy(anyone to dispute this?) who claims to have Portugese, Filipino, Chinese and other blood and claimed that only 22 of his Filipino ancestors remained "pure" out of the hundreds...
EyEsTrAiN
IMSCF Syndrome(I think) irrelevant back home.
KristlehI
^true... pang pinoys abroad lang yan. hahahaha. ang uso dito pinoy at .005555% spanish walang chinese. hehehe.
Tara_Na_Biyahe_Tayo
QUOTE(KristlehI @ Mar 13 2007, 08:01 AM) *

^true... pang pinoys abroad lang yan. hahahaha. ang uso dito pinoy at .005555% spanish walang chinese. hehehe.


Its because they are brainwashed by TFC to believe white is right embarassedlaugh.gif
Jc2
People with IMSCF syndrome needs to be jailed for putting down their real heritage
JMAC
just tell them, oh look at you, you really do look like ________ your nose, skin, eyes, cheeks, says it...then laugh...
Hi Tone
QUOTE(Kanlungan @ Mar 13 2007, 06:51 AM) *

I can only conclude but I think the syndrome and term was coined by a Hawaiian, Kalany Mondoy(anyone to dispute this?) who claims to have Portugese, Filipino, Chinese and other blood and claimed that only 22 of his Filipino ancestors remained "pure" out of the hundreds...

I looked him up and found that dude annoying, he's probably the reason I get alot of heat for being hawaiian and filipino.
http://webpages.charter.net/motuahina/visaya/
Tara_Na_Biyahe_Tayo
QUOTE(Hi Tone @ Mar 14 2007, 11:47 PM) *

I looked him up and found that dude annoying, he's probably the reason I get alot of heat for being hawaiian and filipino.
http://webpages.charter.net/motuahina/visaya/


poor u...another Jasmine Trias Talktohand.gif
Hi Tone
Egay
salted_ham
QUOTE(Hi Tone @ Mar 15 2007, 12:47 PM) *

I looked him up and found that dude annoying, he's probably the reason I get alot of heat for being hawaiian and filipino.
http://webpages.charter.net/motuahina/visaya/


You're part Hawaiian? Didn't know that.
He's not the only one making a deal with some people claiming to be Hawaiian. There are lots of people. Try googling "Hawaiian Wannabees"
JMAC
EJay would make the worst spy ever, imagine being caught/deported a million times and still keeps coming back with thesame disguise? weak
Suzuka00
lahat naman may lahing cino kasi ever since pumupunta na sila dito,not like spanish who just went here in the 16th century....
DivadNhoj
I used to recite that line when I was younger. Now that I'm educated, I don't even bother. I'm proud of my Tagalog roots.
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