http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/culture/20...16394911710.htm

shes a sellout

she was shown in a GQ magazine cover with her legs on top of some white guy....disgusting...

Define the term sellout.

She's a sellout because she was with some white guy?




.. diaf. >/

Are you talking about the pic where she has her legs spread out across Tobey Maguire?? That was like 3 years ago...

Some people never get over such things
Dont suppose you could run an IP check?

www.modelminority.com



Taken quote from some user.

Hey - Asian-American empowerment is cool and all, but what's that's have to do with Zhang Ziyi?

And furthermore, why would you take a quote from another user to support your justification that Zhang Ziyi is a sellout?

Lame, man. Real lame.

oh Tony, you're so silly!

I want to see Jean Reno in a Korean action movie before he gets way too old >_<

Please read that topic , theres more.

uh... i don't want to see Zhang Zi yi... i'd much rather see Fan Bing Bing tho~

Please direct me to the topic that indicates Zhang is a "sellout." You just gave me a link to an Asian-American Empowerment website.

http://modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?...ight=zhang+ziyi

Wow - you know you have really low standards for what constitutes a "sell-out."

Zhang has stated in numerous interviews that she has turned down many Hollywood roles b/c they portrayed AFs in a bad light.

Save your disgust for someone like Bai Ling, who has no reservations in portrayiing (or being) a WM's asian fantasy.

what role does martial art stars wants to do with lee youngae though? first chow yun fat and now zhang ziyi

If you actually read that topic dumbass , theres more

And yea, bai ling is another sellout.

Hey brainstem - MM is probably the worst site that get any "real" info. about Asian-Am issues.

its not a news site, its a discussion board.

Yes - I know.

Too bad I don't feel like registering.

Enlighten us and post the article in here yourself!

modelminority...sounds like another AF chinese chat

[quote]Most Hated Sell-Outs

Which AA actors, actresses, authors, singers, artists, cartoonists, politicians, whatever, etc... do you hate most? Which AA Performers do you consider the biggest "sellout"?
Asia Carrera
Annabel Chong
Lucy Liu
Sandra Oh
Tia Carrere
Sarita Choudhury
Gedde Watanabe
Lauren Tom
Bai Ling
Grace Park
Frances Nyugen
Gurinder Chadha
Marie Matiko
Ric Young
Nicole Bilderback
Kelly Hu
Vivian Wu
Nancy Yoon
China Chow
Rosalind Chao
Paul Mayeda Berges

NOMINATIONS:

- Maggie Cheung (she's not AA), actress and ex-husband Olivier Ossayas,
. . . . . . . and partner Guillaume Brochard
- Christy Chung, actress, and ex-husband Glen Ross
- Yoko Ono and husband John Lennon
- Sandra Oh, actress, and ex-husband Alexander Payne, director
- Wei Wei, actress, and husband Michael Smith
- Elaine Chao, US Secretary of Labor, and husband Mitch McConnell,
. . . . . . . Kentucky senator
- Wu Bingzhi (crakkkerized her name to Adrienne Clarkson),
. . . . . . . Canadian Governor General, and husband John Ralston Saul
- Olivia Chow, Canadian politician, and husband Jack Layton
- Le Ly Hayslip
- Gish Jen and husband David O'Connor
- Maxine Hong Kingston, writer and husband Earll Kingston
- Bette Bao Lord, writer, and husband Winston Lord
- Lois-Ann Yamanaka, author, and husband John Inferrera
- Connie Chung, newscaster and husband Maury Povich, TV personality
- Fan Chung, mathematician and husband Ronald Graham
- Michelle Kwan, figure skater, and partner Brad Ference, NHL hockey player
- Kristi Yamaguchi, skater, and husband Bret Hedican, hockey player
- Wendy Lee, and husband Phil Gramm, United States Senator
- Alice Kim, and husband Nicolas Cage
- Soon-Yi Previn married her ex-father Woody Allen
- Margaret Cho comedian, married artist Al Ridenour
- Lisa Ling TV host, married to a Jew media entrepreneur Philip Levine
- Vera Wang, fashion designer, and husband Arthur Becker

William Hung
Lucy Liu
Linda Park
Shayna Lee
Audrey Quock
Wesley Snipes' wife
Nicolas Cage's wife
Steven Seagal's ex-wife
Kristi Yamaguchi
Akira Lane
Wayne Wang
Vivian Wu
Maggie Cheung
Christy Chung

So, one of the headline for today on fark.com (a mostly young white guys dominated news site) link to an article on her. The headline someone wrote was:

"Chinese actress Zhang Ziyi is coming of age as an international film star, breaking stereotypes. Her most recent films and role? "Memoirs of a Geisha": Prostitute. "2046": Prostitute. "House of Flying Daggers": Prostitute"

http://www.fark.com - check out Friday, August 12, 2005.

some of these actresses are mixed race themselves, so i really don't see a point in accusing them of selling out by race-mixing. some like nicole bilderback are adopted so, it's natural they be more attracted to whites.

you ever seen her films?

also, in her movie " bring it on" she acts like a total fu-king white prep girl who disses other asians. You would think if she was adopted she would show some cultural pride.

and you wonder why most koreans look down on adopted korean americans

^ who the fu-k cares? its her life. and its their life. let them date whoever they want to date. dont be a loser and say "OHH SHES A SELL OUT! SHES NOT DATING ASIAN GUYS WAHHHHH "

grow up.

yes, i've seen the one that had her and kirsten dunst

and make asians look bad in the media? dam I hate twinkies...

shes going to be another god dam " nicole oring" wannabe..and that sell out is already doing hardcore porn....

what a disgrace.

Yes is their life their choice... but it is affecting us in general. Look at the big picture, these actresses are role model and represent AA female, and here they are all like that. Do you ever see other enthicity that are doing the same??

As for Zhang, she is not a sell out. She is my national treasure.

I doubt the actions of these actresses will affect the image of Asian Women on a whole.

Ok, i'll add some fuel to the fire.

1) Model Minority is a joke, it preys on the insecurities of Asian males mostly to take every injustice, no matter how small, and blow it up to piece together some massive conspiracy against asians (mostly asian males) and make it sound like they are more oppressed than illegal immigrants and african americans combined. Not that there are not some valid points that they make but there are major exagerations there.

2) Zhang has played roles that are not stereotypical Asian female roles. In House of Flying Daggers she was not actually a prostitute, she was a warrior right? Rush hour, she was like an assassin, not in a sexual role at all. Crouching tiger, something like a princess right? I'm sure I can find more. I know in Musa was a princess but i think that was Korean.

3) These roles of Asian Female actresses are not going to influence the entire image of all asian women, that's like saying every rapper makes all black people look like gangsters and thugs. Just b/c people are racist does not mean people should avoid such roles. People who are racist will find examples to perpetuate their views regardless of the actions of these actresses.

4) The article said this movie The Banquet was "loosley based off of Hamlet, haha, what a joke, its just Hamlet set in China. Not much creativity in the plot there at all. Nothing is new in hollywood anymore, sounds like the same is true in Chinese cinema as well.

Please explain in detail.

care to register and post your opinions there?

or how about www.igoo.com or www.yellowworld.org?



Also, zhang ziyi is portraying the typical asian submissive/villian roles.

Tony tony tone does it again... (most of you kids are too young to get that reference)
I will politely decline to go to your website and post, i've browed, its just a feeding frenzy for bitter Asian males to go vent and recycle the same ol' gripes about how they are getting screwed over by the western thinking world and media machine. If they think griping about something on the website to other like minded asian males in someway empowers them then great, personally I'd think the time would be better spent doing something about it instead of just griping.

There are only so many roles a female can play. what would make you happy? Design the perfect role for a asian female? Also, I'll ask you to find me any minority star actress in hollywood that didn't sell out to some extent to work their way up into the big time, its called paying their dues, everyone has to do it. The fact that asians are not above that might anger you but its reality. Deal with it.

I thought Grace Park was married to a Korean physician?



shut the fu-k up faggot.

great post

are latinos going crazy cuz jennifer lopez had a coule of relationships with white dudes (her back dancer, affleck)

A true sign of no come back if there ever was one

I'm sorry LOSER, did I hit a sore spot so you call me a faggot? Very intelligent response though. Feel free to give me a reason to shut the fu-k up anytime you like.

By the way, Grace Park was single as of the last Maxim article and on her TV show she bones white guys so she is in the same boat as the others, sell out, whore, ect... At least in the views of Tony and his "empowerment" sites.

INO- thanks for havin some perspective. I mean Julia Roberts played a hooker before winning an Oscar, she's white. Halle Berry showed her rack before she got popular again and won the oscar.

don't you mean Tony Toni Tone?

ahhh, 선생님, you are correct.

anyone with the name funkycoldmedina must know his 80's R&B and Rap.

TS -

Your incessant rantings and indiscriminate labeling of any AAF/AF actress as a "sell-out"/"whore" is first, ignorant, and second, doesn't do the "cause" any good.

First of all - the inclusion of CAF actresses such as Sandra Oh and Grace Park is just ridiculous.

Yes - Sandra is cast with male romantic interests that are non-AM - but that is how it goes in Hollywood (and that's a whole 'nother topic).

She, however, largely plays non-stereotypical roles (physician, perosnal assistant, best friend) and has ranted many times about the unfair treatment Asian actors, and in particular, Asian male actors, get in Hollywood.

Yeah - she used to be married to a white guy (who, btw, she had no interest in originally) - but simply marrying or dating a white guy shouldn't make an AF a "sellout" or "whore."

Is it annoying that Grace Park's character(s) on "Battlestar" are all paired with WM characters? Yes.
But she is happily married to a Kor-Can businessman (how is that being a "sell-out"?).

Second - all this incessant ranting and derogatory comments towards any AF celeb who happens to take roles where she is partnered with a WM or is actually married to a WM is not only unfair, but it turns off the very audience that you want to reach (AFs) and negates any sense of credibility that you may have.

Education and calm reasoning is the key - not a diatribe against AFs simply b/c they take certain roles or are married to certain people.


Btw, Zhang Ziyi has refused most of the offers she has received from Hollywood b/c they aren't flattering to Asian females and "2046" and "House of Flying Daggers" are Chinese productions so you should be blaming the Chinese film industry






That's not really applicable for AF actresses. Almost all of the guest roles/bit parts in TV shows/films have been about AF victims, prostitutes, mail-order bride, household help (who all somehow are oppressed by AMs and "rescued" by WMs).

And even AF actresses who have "made it" - they are always partnered with non-AM (there has yet to be a studio picture or a TV show which portrays an Asian-Am couple).

Isnt what grace park did the opposite of Lisa Ling? She proclaimed asian pride by dating rick yune then leaving him for some jewish man?



Lost..thats only show I know.



Yes remember Naked Weapon the movie?

Directed by a chinese but had 4 chinese ladies being raped by nonasian males.

Remember - Jin and Sun on "Lost" are not Asian-American.

First I appreciate your level headed approach to your answer but i just have to disagree with the response. My reply was based on more that there are only so many roles for a female period in Hollywood, not just Asian females, but ALL femailes and often those will involve some sort of stereotype and these parts are often how people get into the business. It's true for all actresses, not just asians.

yeah. like china chow , asia carrera, and soonyi doesn't count, she was adopted so she doesn't have a tie to her korean culture. let people marry the ones they love. ziyi is not married to a non asian man is he? no