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East S.J. retail center to sell, not lease, shops

MOST OF VIETNAM TOWN'S CONDO UNITS SOLD

By Katherine Conrad
Mercury News

Thu Hoang Ly / Mercury News
The Vietnam Town mall on Story Road is set to begin construction this month and finish in December 2007.
More photosFor Lap Thanh Tang, Vietnam Town is a personal flag planted in East San Jose offering fellow immigrants the chance to own a piece of the American pie.

The 300,000-square-foot commercial development on Story Road offers entrepreneurs the opportunity to own their own store, -- a prospect that's especially attractive to immigrants seeking to plant roots and move up the economic ladder.

``We know of the desire of the business people,'' Tang said. ``They like to own something for their lifetime, for their children -- instead of paying rent.''

Tang, who is one of the developers of Grand Century Mall next door and an owner of Vallco Fashion Mall in Cupertino, also wants to create a shopping experience reminiscent of the ultra-chic Santana Row. So enamored is Tang of the open-air mall that he measured the width of its sidewalks to make his the same size.

``I want Vietnam Town to be the Santana Row of the East Side,'' he said.

His project, scheduled to begin construction this month and finish in December 2007, is a cluster of nine buildings constructed across a pedestrian-friendly, 20-acre site.

Unlike most conventional shopping centers, however, retailers in Vietnam Town will own rather than lease their space. It's a risk, but Tang said business owners have flocked to buy the 1,000-square-foot units.

He's not surprised. Tang said the time is right for a city with 90,000 Vietnamese, among the largest such community in the United States, to have its own Vietnam Town. While many U.S. cities have Little Saigon neighborhoods with predominantly Vietnamese businesses, Tang believes his development is the first to be called Vietnam Town.

It hasn't been easy.

When Tang began selling the 1,000-square-foot units on behalf of TWN Investment, he had little to show potential buyers -- only the promise that the new project would resemble Santana Row. And he still had to get approval from the city to knock down an old Hewlett-Packard warehouse and rezone the industrial property.

But Vietnam Town has proved popular. Units that listed at $400,000 two years ago now sell for $600,000. And of 256 units initially available, Tang has only 50 units on the second floors left, as well as 25 units he is waiting to sell in one building.

Tang is clear that the units are available to all buyers, but given the name of the development, most have sold to Vietnamese-owned businesses.

Doan Trang, a real estate broker who owns Benchmark Realty and Finance, bought a unit for $450,000 after she heard about Vietnam Town from other Vietnamese immigrants.

``We don't want to rent anymore,'' she said. ``The Vietnamese work so hard. First they own a house, then own a business, then own a building.''

Ray Tong, a Fremont developer who was project manager for Ranch Market in San Jose and Mission Square in Fremont, said the challenge for Tang in offering the units for sale rather than lease is getting the right tenant mix. When units are sold in the future, the developer loses control of deciding which retailer locates where.

``I'd be very curious if a mall with one single theme is going to do well,'' Tong said. ``But I think it stands a better chance in San Jose because the Vietnamese population is so great.''

Tang agrees that tenant mix is a challenge. He learned at Grand Century Mall not to locate all the food vendors in one area because that's where most of the foot traffic goes. So in Vietnam Town, there will be a food retailer on every corner. But he acknowledged in an e-mail, ``That is only for now. If they are changing hands in the future, we cannot control.''

Mike Enderby, San Jose's senior planner, said the city wanted a different look with this retail center, larger than most by 100,000 square feet. So Vietnam Town is not designed as a row of stores at the back of a parking lot -- parking will be available in a five-level garage.

Councilwoman Madison Nguyen called the Vietnam Town development ``long overdue.'' It has taken decades, she noted, for the Vietnamese to develop a project this size.

``The Vietnamese were very poor. To get into development takes a lot of money, plus it's a big risk,'' she said. ``I'm glad Mr. Tang has the vision to do this. This is a legacy project. We came here with nothing and this is what we have done.''

Tang said Vietnam Town is his tribute to those who left Vietnam in terror and came to the United States, willing to work for a better life. Tang, who left 31 years ago in a boat, is acutely aware of how far he has come from his first job as a night janitor.

``The first wave of boat people couldn't do much. They didn't have any money and they had to go out and work hard to support a family,'' Tang said. ``Vietnam Town is for the second and third generations to witness the accomplishments of the first wave.''


ddha
That's great! Very inspirational! biggthumpup.gif
SoCal
QUOTE(ddha @ Sep 20 2006, 10:55 AM) *

That's great! Very inspirational! biggthumpup.gif


I bet you some members in here will accuse Mr. Lap Thanh Tang as an ethnic Chinese and people will fight each other in this thread and it will be locked by the moderators.

Let's hope this thread won't be locked again.

The matter is Mr. Lap Thanh Tang names the development as Vietnam Town. He does not name it China Town. It is named Vietnam Town and that is it.
PervertBurger
Its gonna be interesting to see what ind of businesses it has in it and who bought what
supernovasp
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 20 2006, 02:02 PM) *

I bet you some members in here will accuse Mr. Lap Thanh Tang as an ethnic Chinese and people will fight each other in this thread and it will be locked by the moderators.

Let's hope this thread won't be locked again.

The matter is Mr. Lap Thanh Tang names the development as Vietnam Town. He does not name it China Town. It is named Vietnam Town and that is it.

^^ Little Saigon is Little Saigon, but that doesn't stop Frank Jao to be listed as one of the most influential person in Southern California in LA Times for owning most of Little Saigon
W&N
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 20 2006, 01:02 PM) *

I bet you some members in here will accuse Mr. Lap Thanh Tang as an ethnic Chinese and people will fight each other in this thread and it will be locked by the moderators.

Let's hope this thread won't be locked again.

The matter is Mr. Lap Thanh Tang names the development as Vietnam Town. He does not name it China Town. It is named Vietnam Town and that is it.

even tho I am not a vietnamese, but I probably know more than you guys do in the issue. La Thanh Tang actually doesn't speak any chinese, and even his english is pretty bad. All his properties came from his wife, and now his daughter silvia controlls everything, and even the Mall in cupertino. oh, and Grand Century Mall , of course. Silvia also has a very rich husband who came from HK, but both of them are very rich indeed. At least Silvia has more than 100 millions dollars properties. Both of Mr Tang and his wife are ethnic chinese too. Actually Mr Tang doesn't do much in his business, he was just lucky that he married a rich woman. Mostly he just hanged around in Grand Century Mall and checked out the hot chicks over there.
and this project has been stopped for while, at least 6 months, because the orginial owner of land sue Mr Tnag for his project. I don't know what's the reason behind this, but what I see and know, this project has been stopped for a long time. You guys can see grass have been growing very tall in that field.
I got to know this, because I got some business relationship with Mr Tang, and I have go to grand century mall once a week for business issues. Therefore, I know the current situation.
LVF
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 20 2006, 02:02 PM) *

I bet you some members in here will accuse Mr. Lap Thanh Tang as an ethnic Chinese and people will fight each other in this thread and it will be locked by the moderators.

Let's hope this thread won't be locked again.

The matter is Mr. Lap Thanh Tang names the development as Vietnam Town. He does not name it China Town. It is named Vietnam Town and that is it.

ur post make me think ur intention of making this topic is for people to fight laugh.gif anyway the man may have more viet blood than chinese blood, his last name is a rare viet last name, yet it doesnt mean he's 100% chinese. his whole name is vietnamese. spelled in vietnamese. no where in the article says he's a chinese ethnic either.
supernovasp
QUOTE(LVF @ Sep 20 2006, 04:32 PM) *

ur post make me think ur intention of making this topic is for people to fight laugh.gif anyway the man may have more viet blood than chinese blood, his last name is a rare viet last name, yet it doesnt mean he's 100% chinese. his whole name is vietnamese. spelled in vietnamese. no where in the article says he's a chinese ethnic either.

W&N confirmed that he's an ethnic chinese who is quite assimilated to Vietnamese. His daughter is married toa rich HK business guy. Anyway, tang last name is defintely rare for Kinh but it's pretty common for Chinese people living in Vietnam. My grandma last name is also tang, and the other dude Thai-Hau is also a Tang etc.
SoCal
QUOTE(LVF @ Sep 20 2006, 01:32 PM) *

ur post make me think ur intention of making this topic is for people to fight laugh.gif anyway the man may have more viet blood than chinese blood, his last name is a rare viet last name, yet it doesnt mean he's 100% chinese. his whole name is vietnamese. spelled in vietnamese. no where in the article says he's a chinese ethnic either.


OK, that is good to hear. biggthumpup.gif
LVF
anyway it's good to have a vietnam town, not a little saigon. for long when i think of the word little saigon, i think of the yellow flag flying at the gate of the little saigon market. Hope Vietnam town will head another way.
W&N
QUOTE(LVF @ Sep 20 2006, 04:16 PM) *

anyway it's good to have a vietnam town, not a little saigon. for long when i think of the word little saigon, i think of the yellow flag flying at the gate of the little saigon market. Hope Vietnam town will head another way.

I think it will just like another grandcentry in a slightly bigger scale. But probably they will join two place together, that's their plan. But hell know when they can finish the project. It should be done within a year originally, if it isn't stopped by court.
etalkishere
QUOTE(W&N @ Sep 21 2006, 11:13 AM) *

I think it will just like another grandcentry in a slightly bigger scale. But probably they will join two place together, that's their plan. But hell know when they can finish the project. It should be done within a year originally, if it isn't stopped by court.


W&N, if you could post a picture of how the VT would look like, that would be great. I could see it from afar, through the posted sign, but not very clearly.

It is great to have another Little Saigon like town. It's a living proof that US Vietnamese communities continue to nourish and grow. I really don't care the damn who the land owner is, although it would be nice he/she is a Vietnamese. Why does it matter so much to some of your guys that the owner is not Vietnamese? Think about it, it's now 21st century, globalization is everywhere. Heck, do you know the CEO of Nissan, Carlos Ghosn, is actually a Lebanonese? Lots of Japanese really admire him for really turning around struggling Nissan. How about, do you know lots of financial centers/banks in NYC are owned by the Jews? Common, wake up!!! It's 21st century. Lots of businesses in the US are not owned by Americans. What really matters to me is that our communities are thriving, and getting richer. Someday, who knows, Mr. Tang wants to sell it off, then there comes a rich Vietnamese who wants to buy it. There, we have a Vietnamese owner biggthumpup.gif
bun_bo_hue
Wow, great to know that. Hopefully they won't stop the project. China Town would be pretty empty if we move all of our Pho restaurants to Vietnam town.

I've heard that they're planning to build a Vietnam town in my city too, but it's not officially confirmed yet.
W&N
A great news for you guys, I just got the information that the court has apporved the project. They mighst starting working on it right now. You guys might see changes in a couple days. If my information is correct.
To: etalkishere: sorry, I saw the post a couple times, but I don't have time and equipment to scan such a huge post. It looks nice in computer graphic.
VOTAMVOTU
QUOTE(etalkishere @ Sep 21 2006, 04:02 PM) *

W&N, if you could post a picture of how the VT would look like, that would be great. I could see it from afar, through the posted sign, but not very clearly.

It is great to have another Little Saigon like town. It's a living proof that US Vietnamese communities continue to nourish and grow. I really don't care the damn who the land owner is, although it would be nice he/she is a Vietnamese. Why does it matter so much to some of your guys that the owner is not Vietnamese? Think about it, it's now 21st century, globalization is everywhere. Heck, do you know the CEO of Nissan, Carlos Ghosn, is actually a Lebanonese? Lots of Japanese really admire him for really turning around struggling Nissan. How about, do you know lots of financial centers/banks in NYC are owned by the Jews? Common, wake up!!! It's 21st century. Lots of businesses in the US are not owned by Americans. What really matters to me is that our communities are thriving, and getting richer. Someday, who knows, Mr. Tang wants to sell it off, then there comes a rich Vietnamese who wants to buy it. There, we have a Vietnamese owner biggthumpup.gif


i agree with you here. even if the owner is vietnamese, do you not have to buy or rent these stores. stop with the racists crap. as long they doing something positive for our community it shouldnt matter their racial background.
kpham001
My dad use to work for that family at "Trieu Thanh" a weekly magazine that they own. Their daughter Sylvy is of course the one running the bussiness now. They are a pretty rich Vietnamese family considering that they own a video production company "DVE", "Vietnam International Video INC" (which is where your mother get most of her rental korean/Taiwanese/TVB movie), and of course Grand Century Mall.

W&N
QUOTE(kpham001 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:18 PM) *

My dad use to work for that family at "Trieu Thanh" a weekly magazine that they own. Their daughter Sylvy is of course the one running the bussiness now. They are a pretty rich Vietnamese family considering that they own a video production company "DVE", "Vietnam International Video INC" (which is where your mother get most of her rental korean/Taiwanese/TVB movie), and of course Grand Century Mall.

yeah, Sylivia is quite a charming woman indeed, well, of course in her age. I guess he is around 40s. I just don't understand why she has to marry a 60 year old man who has 6 sons and daughters already.......... icon_neutral.gif . and remember, Sylivia is as rich as her husband, probably richer than him. .......really sad.
SoCal
QUOTE(W&N @ Sep 22 2006, 12:17 PM) *

yeah, Sylivia is quite a charming woman indeed, well, of course in her age. I guess he is around 40s. I just don't understand why she has to marry a 60 year old man who has 6 sons and daughters already.......... icon_neutral.gif . and remember, Sylivia is as rich as her husband, probably richer than him. .......really sad.


It's called love. icon_smile.gif
bored_dude
any updates? confused.gif
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