Suren911
Oct 5 2006, 07:48 PM
Jhangora
Oct 5 2006, 10:31 PM
A very informative website Suren.Thanx for sharing the link.
toki
Oct 6 2006, 01:00 PM
"Many women reported having their uterus rot from diseases and many others became barren and unable to give birth."
"This bill MUST be passed before Congress leaves session in October. Time is running out. On a more grave angle- the few remaining comfort women in this world are in their 70s, 80s and 90s. Thousands of them have perished without any formal recognition of their plight- and have had to live with being slandered as prostitutes and willing partners in the vicious exploitation they fell victim to."
good quote
yeah i heard about that as well. well i'm pretty passionate about this topic. so lets add more articles !
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAC...&of=ENG-2S2"Humiliated and ashamed, "comfort women" survivors remained silent for nearly six decades, suffering isolation, shame, mental and physical ill-health, and often extreme poverty."
just because it was in the past doesn't mean these women still don't suffer from the actions of those times.
Takashi
Oct 6 2006, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(toki @ Oct 6 2006, 07:00 PM)

"Many women reported having their uterus rot from diseases and many others became barren and unable to give birth."
Suren911
Oct 6 2006, 01:21 PM
A lot of those women were Korean, some were Chinese, and even some European women. Dutch, Russian, etc who were all captured and forced against their will. Nationality put aside, this sort of thing should not happen to any women. If something isn't done soon, these womens' voices will never be heard. They'll just be "history."
Jhangora
Oct 7 2006, 04:46 AM
Considering that most of the comfort women are very old.Do you think they will get justice during their lifetime Suren?
Suren911
Oct 7 2006, 04:52 AM
I'd rather not sound pessimistic and say that they won't, but I think we should do as much as we can to spread the word and so at least that their presence and sacrifices are known to this world. I mean, majority of the educated population familiar with Asia at the time of WWII have at least heard about comfort women, but few can actually tell you much about it. No one can really imagine the horrors these women went through. Most were middle school and high school girls who were innocent students, but their lives and their families' lives were completely ruined.
gogogodzilla
Oct 7 2006, 08:34 AM
I often find rehashing the past serves somebodys motives in the present, but in the case of sex-slaves I think a re-evaluation is necessary because Asian (and European) women of the past considered their pride to be so important that keeping quiet about the abuse of their dignity was more important than seeking justice. If it doesn't degrade their sense of pride, I think younger generations should put as much energy as they can into avenging the degredation they experienced in their name. Until the recent movements by 'comfort women' to tell their stories, Japan hoped to have this 'swept under the carpet' by the fact that women of that generation would prefer to save face than seek retribution. That has changed and the Japanese government is scrambling to offer justifications now. ("Well you see, they were more than willing to offer their services to improve their lot in life."

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They may not get justice in their lifetime, but others can seek it for them.
Jhangora
Oct 7 2006, 10:53 AM
So what's the Japanese stand on this issue?
Suren911
Oct 7 2006, 12:32 PM
^Denial, justification of it with twisted logic, and undermining the consequences.
Jhangora
Oct 7 2006, 11:10 PM
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Oct 8 2006, 02:32 AM)

^Denial, justification of it with twisted logic, and undermining the consequences.
Sad.It seems comfort women won't get justice.What's the S Korean govt. doing about it.
Suren911
Oct 8 2006, 03:29 PM
I'm not too sure, but if it's anything like the human rights crisis in NK, it's something that people don't really like to talk about. It was a dark part of the history and the women who have suffered through it, and I'm sure there are many many in SK, would rather retain honor in their name rather than seeking justice and recognition, which is a big problem for the younger generations, because they don't understand the horrible truths behind these ajumas' past.
flower pig
Oct 8 2006, 09:29 PM
QUOTE(Jhangora @ Oct 8 2006, 01:10 PM)

Sad.It seems comfort women won't get justice.What's the S Korean govt. doing about it.
There isn't anything they can do, legally speaking. Park Chung-hee sold them out with the 1960s secret treaty with Japan, officially forfeiting most rights for Korean citizens to sue Japan in exchange for a boatload of cash and loans. Korean people didn't find out about this agreement until about 12 years ago when a group of former comfort women tried to sue Japan, and the Japanese court revealed it. For the decades in between many people were deceived into thinking the money had been blood money the US paid for South Korean involvement in Vietnam. Probably many people still think so. The money was used for among other things, building the Seoul-Busan highway.
obok
Oct 9 2006, 01:09 AM
Where is NK-PRC relationship going ?
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By Benjamin Kang Lim
BEIJING, Oct 8 (Reuters) - North Korea may bring the date of a planned nuclear test forward after a contentious remark by China's U.N. ambassador angered generals in the reclusive country, a source with close ties to Pyongyang said on Sunday.
U.S. envoy John Bolton said last week that while Britain, France and Japan had made clear a strong statement was needed to warn Pyongyang against testing, he was not certain "what North Korea's protectors on the (U.N. Security) Council are going to do".
In response, Chinese Ambassador Wang Guangya said: "I'm not sure which country he is referring to, but I think that for bad behaviour in this world no one is going to protect them."
Wang's remark riled North Korean generals who bristled at the notion of needing China's protection and urged their leader, Kim Jong-il, to bring the test date forward, said the source who requested anonymity.
"North Korea is especially unhappy with China," the source told Reuters after speaking with senior North Korean officials.
"This is chauvinism. North Korea does not need Chinese protection. North Korea is no longer a dependency," the source cited the North Koreans as saying.
Korea was a Chinese protectorate for several centuries until Japan seized it as a colony in 1910.
Pyongyang's nuclear test could now come as early as this week, the source said.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusin...p;from=businessThis is exactly NK's slap to China.
Jhangora
Oct 9 2006, 05:14 AM
QUOTE(flower pig @ Oct 9 2006, 11:29 AM)

There isn't anything they can do, legally speaking. Park Chung-hee sold them out with the 1960s secret treaty with Japan, officially forfeiting most rights for Korean citizens to sue Japan in exchange for a boatload of cash and loans. Korean people didn't find out about this agreement until about 12 years ago when a group of former comfort women tried to sue Japan, and the Japanese court revealed it. For the decades in between many people were deceived into thinking the money had been blood money the US paid for South Korean involvement in Vietnam. Probably many people still think so. The money was used for among other things, building the Seoul-Busan highway.
Very sad Pig.I think Park Chung Hee deceived his own people.Can nothing be done now?
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