kunomchu
Oct 8 2006, 02:28 PM
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Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, a fierce critic of the war in Chechnya who was gunned down in her Moscow apartment block Saturday, was the latest investigative reporter to be killed in Russia. These are some of the murders of other reporters in recent years:
July 9, 2004: Paul Klebnikov, the U.S.-born editor of the Russian edition of Forbes who had been investigating the murky business world in Russia, is gunned down as he leaves his Moscow office. Two ethnic Chechens accused of carrying out the murder were acquitted earlier this year.
April 29, 2002: Valery Ivanov, editor of the newspaper Tolyatinskoye Oborzreniye in the southern city Russian city of Togliatti, is shot dead outside his home. The newspaper was well-known for its reports on local organized crime, drug trafficking and official corruption.
June 7, 1998: Larisa Yudina, editor of the opposition newspaper Sovetskaya Kalmykia in the southern Russian region of Kalmykia, is stabbed to death and her body dumped in a pond on the outskirts of the regional capital, Elista. Two men, both former government aides, were caught and convicted of murder.
March 1, 1995: Vladislav Listyev, executive director of the newly formed public television station ORT, is shot dead as he enters his apartment block. Listyev was one of Russia's best-known TV journalists. Some observers suspect his murder was connected to a controversy over whether to permit advertising on the new network.
Oct. 17, 1994: Dmitry Kholodov, an investigative reporter for the Moscow newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets, is killed in a bomb blast at the newspaper's office. Kholodov, who had been investigating mafia connections with the military, was killed when he opened a briefcase he believed contained secret documents.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/08/...lled_Glance.phpPolitkovskaya Gunned Down Near Home
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2006/10/09/001.html
gomeny
Oct 8 2006, 04:29 PM
Well I guess in Russia the pen isn't mighter than the sword
danoc
Oct 8 2006, 05:27 PM
Politkovskaya was crazy lady wich did thinking she can stop beslan killers just with funny "let us to talk about" tactic..
after she did maked a propaganda war against all soldiers wich are fight against beslan terrorists she did get many political and other enemies.
sometimes later she have found a "human right victims" wich were just mafia and killer guy from chechenian war..
i dont know.. she was very important person in a chechenian war but after it her reports becames more and more paranoical and hysterical.
i think she had stokholm-syndrom..
that she was kiled by russian goverment is not proved.
police do search her killers now..
just wait a little more bevore you can begin to bash russian goverment for her dead..
this crazy chick had more as only one enemy..
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phyrefly
Oct 24 2006, 12:35 PM
A prescription for Danoc might include trepanation. In lieu of that, it must be said to Mr. Flapping Lips: at least she had the stones to go to Chechnya and hang out with Nokhchii. Politkovskaya has left a trail by her work. This trail also includes pre-established oil deals between Russia and China. Stupidity gets the reality it deserves, once again.
U.S. Rank On Press Freedom Slides Lower
http://wwwwashingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conten...l?nav=rss_world
canhong
Oct 24 2006, 01:59 PM
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Oct 8 2006, 03:28 PM)

Well, I opened this thread expecting to see list of journalists being detained and jailed by the gubment...
Russia is still a relatively young democracy trying to establish her way. Things like this, and craps such as the skinheads

, are by-products of the newfound freedom the Russians have gained. It sucks, but I think if the Russians are steadfast in building a democratic country, they'd have a good chance of regaining the "superpower" status.
c...
phyrefly
Oct 24 2006, 02:37 PM
Their poorly trained infantry leads to war crimes. We can see, then why reporters are silenced. This will not wash, because other world democracies are aware of these things. It does not matter how young or old Russian democracy is: it will be critiqued relentlessly now. Events during filtration-camp reporting includes Khanty-Mansiisk soldiers. Lapin's torture of a Chechen man twenty-six yaers old, Lapin's shaving the word "Kadet' on his head, and the Chechen, who was supposedly being transferred to a hospital, was nver seen again. These are the reasons Politkovskaya went to Chechnya to see for herself. Babitskii, another reporter, actually seen torture. Russia has already been well underway for oil development in the Khanty-Mantsy region, and China is in on it.
Yahoo News October 23, 2006 Clinton Says Rival In 'Swampy Territory'
Ironically enough, the above report means more than libidinal remarks about a woman's body. Thus, U.S. intelligensia is not unaware of sable-fur tribute to the Khan.
In several swamps with crow beak
tread I, the beast
In several swamps of magpie beaks
tread I, the beast
One of my names is called
the Little Black-cat-shaped Mistress
the Little White-cat-shaped Mistress
my name is known
The Little Mistress of the Sable-b!tch-Hiss
The Little Mistress of the Sable-dog-Hiss
my name is known
(Khanty Bear Feast)
'Other journalists have criticized Moscow's conduct of the wars in Chechnya and have explicitly accused Russian officials of war crimes. Pavel Fel'gengauer, a specialist on military policy, attributed Russian behavior in part to poor training:
"The Russian armed forces have lots of guns, bombs and ballistic missles, but they do not have the well -trained infantry to match the rebels. Because of this weakness and because of pressure to capture Grozny and declare 'victory' at any cost, Russian generals are virtually forced to resort to illegal means, to commit war crimes and to substitute for well trained and motivated infantry with increasingly more powerful bombs."
In Fel'gengauer's view, the indiscriminate bombing of Grozny, in particular, violated the second protocol of the Geneva Conventions, which protects civilians caught in internal armed conflict. Thus, he argued, the Russian military command is implicated in war crimes,' and Putin -- who has publicly said he was personally involved in planniing Russian tactics in Chechnya -- most likely is a war criminal, too.' Fel'gengauer was disappointed in the Western response. 'The international community is all but silent,' he complained. He found it particularly galling that Clinton's secretary of state Madeleine Albright had referred to Putin as 'one of the leading reformers,' echoing the rhetoric that the administration had substituted for criticism of Boris Yeltsin during the first war.'
(Evangelista, The War In Chechnya: Will Russia Go The Way Of The Soviet Union?, p. 163)
phyrefly
Oct 24 2006, 10:17 PM
Novaya Gazeta: They Were Preparing Materials On Chechnya For International War Crimes Tribunal
http://2006.novayagazeta.ru/nomer/2006/81n/n81n-s17.shtmlTranslation Of The Above Russian Text
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chechnya-sl/message/50141Kommersant: Murderers Of Politkovskaya May Be Hiding In Siberia
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chechnya-sl/message/50143In relation to the sniper's art, as mentioned earlier on another thread about Juba (sniper), not far from the Khanty-Mansi Ob, an Enets shaman could tell time with accuracy to the minute without the aid of a timepiece. One of the reasons for this is the Indigene's keen eyesight. Could Politkovskaia have known that sooner or later, the sable's tracks would lead back to the den?
Happy Asian
Oct 24 2006, 11:40 PM
I don't their country is ready for democracy....they have no traditional of Western-style democracy.
cao_ni_mao
Oct 25 2006, 02:29 AM
Everything's run by Putin now.
phyrefly
Oct 25 2006, 11:32 AM
Konomchu may wish to see a list, and if we do not scrutinize them all, there is a problem. If we do not scrutinize them separately, there is also problem. Swamps have something to do with Russia's disappearing journalists, its interests in oil devlopment being only one eample. It has not had a long-standing democratic tradition, that is why with one hand, it embraces war on terror while practicing that elsewhere. It can only accomplish this by eliminating the witnesses. See (WWW) The Independent: 'Polikovskaya's Article Prompts Inquiry Into Chechen Brutality' which contains the phrase: '....disturbing video footage shot on a mobile phone, that appears to back up Politkovskaya's allegations.'
The joke is Putin spending three hours talking with people, covered by Russian media.
' One Russian journalist suggested that Putin's 'critical and prompt decision to join the American-led anti-terrorist coalition after September 11' was intended specifically ' to speed up integration with the West.' But how far would such cooperation have gone before September 11? Could one even imagine Russia welcoming U.S. military bases along its periphery of former Soviet republics that Moscow still considers within its sphere of influence? How much further could such cooperation go?
Before September 11 the differences in perspective between Russia and the West on the Chechen War were fairly clear. The dominant European perspective viewed Russia's war in Chechnya as, at best, a human-rights disaster, or worse, a deliberate policy of war crimes and atrocities. For its part, Moscow justified the war by appeal to the vital national interest of territorial integrity, which no Western power disputed, and further sought to characterize the conflict as an 'antiterrorist operation.' European institutions called on Moscow to pursue negotiations in good faith to end the war, to protect the peaceful population, and to bring to account the perpetrators of crimes against innocent civilians. They sometimes reinforced their demands with stronger, albeit largely symbolic measures. The European Union, for example, delayed implementation of the 1994 Partnership and Co-operation Agreement, the formal basis for EU-Russian relations, until December 1997, owing to the ongoing war in Chechnya
(Evangelista op cit p.179)