Another reason is that ancient Black tribes were pretty much isolated, thus no competition. While the old worlds ( East Asia, Middle East, and Europe) had contact with each other and had to compete to dominate.

This trait is their liability in our modern society. We need brain, not brawn.

*sigh* I try not to jump to conclusions when people make comments like that but I'm assuming you think none of us has enough intelligence to contribute to society(besides manual labor)? From where I'm sitting thats how it sounds. Please elaborate.

Sure Nam Quoc Son Ha , just go and tell Shaq that

Usual racist Viet. Nothing new.

As an asian myself here's my assessment:

Yeah but brawn is still appreciated in this world. Look at all those kids who have athletes as their idols.

Asians to me have "book smarts" not "creative smarts".

Yes while Asians can win math contests and contests of memorizations in school and get good grades.

Whites have been surpassing asians in innovation. Look at all the mathematics and sciences created by whites. They've invented a LOT of a lot more things than asians.

I think it is due to whites taking more risks. Asians are usually taught at a young age to do good in school and be sucessful, and thus most asians would rather do good in school and become doctors and lawyers rather than taking a risk and trying to live off bread crumbs tryng to create a new invention.

Since inventions don't pay off until after you've finalized it or made a concept good enough for it to sell a lot, then most asians aren't willing to take that risk.

I think Asian parents should teach their kids to "pursue what their interests are" rather than "study hard and get a good job" and maybe we'll see a lot more innovations by asians though.

Book smarts can only get you so far.

I never think that there are no intelligent black people, just far and few between and they lag far behind Asians and Caucasians. I however, admire Colin Powell and those dudes who head large corporations. They aren't dumb.

But just look at the statistics and you can see that the Black people are failing. Their IQ on average are lower and academically are under achievers.

This is an information technology age. We no longer need raw strength to survive, we need to use our brain to survive and prosper.

yeah my man.... haven't you eever noticed on tv, aliens are always portray all scrawny and big eye like a push over, but they are the smartest *bleep*

yeah... i guess asians are one step above the evolutionary level, haha. if aliens are what mankind is tryhing to ascend and become

Not all Asians look the same though. Not all Asians have had the same level of achievements.

I would pay money to have some of you guys take the sociology class I had last semester and the Statistics & Probability class I am taking right now, I really think you might change your mind about how reliable those IQ tests are. You're not going to see many blacks in power in America for one thing because there are only about 13 million of us compared to over 200 million whites. There are going to be more Latinos than us in the country pretty soon. And an intelligent black person isn't some rare find. Hell my dad went to Harvard and my grandmother(his mom) got into college when she was 14 years old. My little sister was #8 in her class and is going to the #10 college in America. They aren't some anomolies of the black race. They're just people like you and me who worked hard and got what they wanted out of life. Now I'm not going to say that there aren't lazy, poor, or just plain stupid/ignorant black people out there because believe me I've run into more than I can stomach, but they are such a small percent of our population its ridiculous. And think about how far the black race has some. 200 years ago we were slaves, 110 years ago we couldn't vote, 50 years ago we had to sit on the back of the bus or stand, now we're treated just like everyone else for the most part. It's not cuz people just got nice all of the sudden. Alot of blacks had to fight, die, and suffer for all of that to be accomplished. It just doesn't seem like the act of a race that has a few intellectuals.

Nevertheless, whites seem to have the best of both worlds. They have invented the most stuff and still perform well in sports as well. I'll admit that this world has been dominated by the whites. I'm not gonna paint myself a picture.

Well by the end of the this century, I'm sure the whites will no longer dominate this world by themselves. Their population is either stagnating or in decline, their countries are swamped with Asians or other non-Caucasians, and they are slowly being challenged economically and militarily. Asia is already the largest economic bloc in the world and also the fastest growing. By the end of the century, From India all the way to Japan, we will constitute roughly over half the world's economy. Now that's serious awakening.

Hell just look at asia. Everyone wears "western clothing" instead of their traditional clothing.

New cities are being built with Western architecture. Seriously even Asia is basically admitting whites are better by adopting their influences rather than using our own.

Economy is only one thing. Whites are still innovating like crazy. Good economy or not, they are still innovating.

Ya I've heard within the next few decades the white race will be a minority(I wouldn't be suprised if they were still in charge of things though )

Let them believe what they want. Its their ignorance, not yours.

I think you're abusing the word "racist"

But anyway, as far as I know, the last consensus puts the Afro-American population at 30-35 million (11%) while the Hispanic population at over 38 million and constitutes over 12%. The Caucasians are slowly losing the population pie.

As I said, I didn't mean to be racist towards Black people but the fact is that they are the underachievers in our modern and contemporary history. I admire people like Nelson Mandela, Kofi Annan, Colin Powell etc.

I guess this is a topic we just can't see eye to eye on. I think you need to look a bit harder. I'm not one of those paranoid guys who sees racism in everything but there are alot of black books, shows, articles, theories that aren't given much credit or publicity.


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Black Inventors And Inventions
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Air Conditioning Unit Frederick M. Jones July 12, 1949
Almanac Benjamin Banneker Approx. 1791
Auto Cut-Off Switch Granville T. Woods January 1, 1839
Auto Fishing Devise G. Cook May 30, 1899
Automatic Gear Shift Richard Spikes February 28, 1932
Baby Buggy W. H. Richardson June 18, 1899
Bicycle Frame L.R. Johnson October 10, 1899
Biscuit Cutter A.P. Ashbourne November 30, 1875
Blood Plasma Bag Charles Drew Approx. 1945
Cellular Phone Henry T. Sampson July 6, 1971
Chamber Commode T. Elkins January 3, 1897
Clothes Dryer G.T. Sampson June 6, 1862
Curtain Rod S.R. Scratton November 30, 1889
Curtain Rod Support William S. Grant August 4, 1896
Door Stop O. Dorsey December 10, 1878
Dust Pan Lawrence P. Ray August 3, 1897
Egg Beater Willie Johnson February 5, 1884
Electric Lampbulb Lewis Latimer March 21, 1882
Elevator Alexander Miles October 11, 1867
Eye Protector P. Johnson November 2, 1880
Fire Escape Ladder J.W. Winters May 7, 1878
Folding Bed L.C. Bailey July 18, 1899
Folding Chair Brody & Surgwar June 11, 1889
Fountain Pen W.B. Purvis January 7, 1890
Furniture Caster O.A. Fisher 1878
Gas Mask Garrett Morgan October 13, 1914
Golf Tee T. Grant December 12, 1899
Guitar Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886
Hair Brush Lydia O. Newman November 15, 18--
Hand Stamp Walter B. Purvis February 27, 1883
Horse Shoe J. Ricks March 30, 1885
Ice Cream Scooper A.L. Cralle February 2, 1897
Improv. Sugar Making Norbet Rillieux December 10, 1846
Insect-Destroyer Gun A.C. Richard February 28, 1899
Ironing Board Sarah Boone December 30, 1887
Key Chain F.J. Loudin January 9, 1894
Lantern Michael c. Harvey August 19, 1884
Lawn Mower L.A. Burr May 19, 1889
Lemon Squeezer J. Thomas White December 8, 1893
Lock W.A. Martin July 23, 18--
Lubricating Cup Ellijah McCoy November 15, 1895
Lunch Pail James Robinson 1887
Mail Box Paul L. Downing October 27, 1891
Mop Thomas W. Stewart June 11, 1893
Motor Federick M. Jones June 27, 1939
Peanut Butter George Washington Carver 1896
Pencil Sharpener J.L. Love November 23, 1897
Record Player Arm Joseph Hunger d!ckenson January 8, 1819
Refrigerator J. Standard June 14, 1891
Riding Saddles W.D., Davis Ocotber 6, 1895
Rolling Pin John W. Reed 1864
Shampoo Headrest C.O. Bailiff October 11, 1898
Spark Plug Edmond Berger February 2, 1839
Stethoscope Imhotep Ancient Egypt
Stove T.A. Carrington July 25, 1876
Straightening Comb Madam C.J. Walker Approx. 1905
Street Sweeper Charles B. Brooks March 17, 1890
Phone Transmitter Granville T. Woods December 2, 1884
Thermostat Control Frederick M. Jones February 23, 1960
Traffic Light Garrett Morgan November 20, 1923
Tricycle M.A. Cherry May 6, 1886
Typewriter Burridge & Marshman April 7, 1885

nope. pacific islanders have the best of both worlds..... we have a beauitful native austronesian culture (related to filipinos, indonesians, malaysian, madagascar) and beautiful physical attributes. although one thing, we lack is land area and a large population.

Not meaning to sound ignorant. You guys are like in Hawaii or something

LOL.

Uh... Colin Powell is 1st of 2nd generational mixed. Yes he is and he can't deny it even if the rest of the world wants him too.


so...therefore he is only part african american and his other part gets credit too

it's logical just thinkl about it.

sleepy... it's 2:00am now

So you're saying because he's part white that has somehow also helped him get into the posistion that he's in?

I personally have a black friend who is very smart and take engineering in University and tutor high for about $20 an hour, and in highschool I remembered he won the school Physics award and my school had a LOT of Asians and whites as well. I live in Canada and schools there isn't that much separation though.

to jasel: No what I'm trying to say is I hate it when some one forgets about their other cultures and races just to get ahead or to get accepted everybody knows the majority of african americans are highly mixed and they just claim that "black" label for benifits or numbers for governments programs(most african americans who knows politics). every one in this world had someone from a diffrent race in their family at one time (i'm speaking of their ancestors, mabye from 4000 years ago every one has very very small degree of their first ancestors in them technicall every one is mixed ) but in powels case his mixtures are so close yet he says he is "blac* in public I think he just wants to be accepted or mabye he dosen't know who his real ancestors are so he fit himself in that group, it happens all of the time.

i thought that was naomi cambell (umm how do you spell her name?)!!!
well naomi is part chinese
i know that for a fact
and i never knew dean cain (superman) was part japanese until i read his interviews
i was wondering why he seemed to be so into j@p stuff and all

I gotta agree with Jazel... I seen alot of black people as doctors.. all the dentist I have been too were black.. my lawyer that was appointed to me when I got in trouble was black. Here, in the DC metropolitan area, blacks are in every top notch profession. but there are also people that live in the ghetto and even those people I can talk to and discover.. It's all in the mind people... The tests are very random and are biased tests... As far as Asians go.. yes alot of Chinese Japanese Koreans, Viets are smart... But on a consistent basis time and time again.. it's that non-mongloid Indian/Paki Desi kid that I can rely on to copy notes off of.. a C++ computer science program I can burrow as a rubric to get mine to run properly.. Those people seem to be the more disciplined on a consistent bases compared to other asians. As far as physicalness goes... And at 6-9 3/4" Im taller than any black person I walk by on the street but Ive met East Asians that were over 6 foot left and right mostly Shanghainese / Korean looking.. never any Japanese or South-East Asians though. Im ethnically Samoan/Tahitian(Moorean)/Hakka Chinese/Taiwanese.. I consider myself Asian..

Air Conditioning Unit, Automatic Gear Shift, Cell Phone, Clothes Dryer, Elevator, Lawn Mower, Motor, Refrigerator, Spark Plug, Stethoscope, Stove, Phone Transmitter, Traffic Light, and Typewriter were some of the things that I wanted to stick out a bit more And thats just a sample If you go online and search you can find hundreds of things invented. and Like I said before if there are 13 million blacks compared to 250 + million others of course we're not going to have as many inventions. See I think the one thing that you and I do agree on is that Africans really didn't need as much back then as other races did. Africa really wasn't a heavily populated place(compared to all the food sources and land available anyway). I do think that whites are a bit more innovative, and the Japanese have the best technology in the world IMO. It's just when you say things like "At least blacks do very well in sports and make a lot of money with their rap." thats when I feel the need to speak up and say something because while sports and hip hop are things we've managed to suceed in that's not what we consider ourselves all about. I think you're knowledge of blacks and black culture is limited to what you see on television(ie: Sports and Hip-hop). If you have the time someday i would REALLY suggest that you look up some information on black culture. I think I'm understanding what your saying and it's not racist I think you're just missing the bigger picture. And ask yourself this: How do you consider your one black friend who happens to be smart. Is he just an average black guy to you who happens to be smart or some rare anomoly?

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A lot of your lists of inventions are not accurate.

The black guy who "invented" the air conditioner, didn't invent it, he only modified the existing air conditioner for long haul trucks.

For the cell phone invention that is also a myth as well.

http://www.blackinventionsmuseum.com/errata.html

"Dr. Henry T. Sampson has been mistakenly noted as the inventor of the cellular phone. According to Dr. Sampson, the Gamma Electric Cell, patented July 6, 1971, Patent No. 3,591,860 produces stable high-voltage output and current to detect radiation in the ground.".

Ya I was pretty sure I spelled that wrong hehe

The typewriter was not invented by a black.

http://www.blackinventionsmuseum.com/errata.html

It seems a black guy improved the typewriter but didn't invent it.

Same thing with the refridgerator guy, he didn't invent it, but invented some improvements of it.

There was a civilization in Southeastern Africa called the Great Zimbabwe. They had a somewhat prosperous civilization from 500-1600 AD without White influences.


The Shona speaking people moved into the valley around 500 AD and began building major parts of the stone walls in the 1100s. Zimbabwe is the Shona word meaning house of rock.

The city of Great Zimbabwe is located in the present day country of Zimbabwe. Geographically it is located to the east of the Kalahari desert between the Zambezi and Limpopo rivers. The huge plains that surround the city can support agricultural and herding that the people of Great Zimbabwe needed to sustain themselves. It is interesting to note that although Great Zimbabwe is in the area of several rivers it is not actually on the shores of a river. The city appears to be in the middle of nowhere. It is believed, however, that the city was located on a gold-rich mine. Great Zimbabwe was used and built as a religious center and a place from which they worshipped Mwari, the creator of all life as well as the sustainer of all things.

The Elliptical building is the most impressive and extraordinary of the stone remains. The outer wall of the building is 32 feet high and up to 17 feet thick in parts. It stretches over 800 feet, forming a circumference with a maximum diameter of 293 feet. The inside of this building was probably reserved for the king or ruler for melting down gold in smelters. As well as being impressive for the fine granite walls, the city was very rich in gold. The people traded along the nearby Limpopo river. One of the most amazing aspects of this great civilization is that they had up to 20,000 people living around the elliptical building in mud huts. The huge stone buildings are built very straight and uniform and were very well planned in their construction. The stones in the major walls were perfectly fitted with each other and no mortar was used. The only openings in the wall were for the entrance and several drainage ditches. It is interesting to note the similarities of these walls to those of the castles built during Medieval Europe.

Great Zimbabwe is so well known because it is not known how it was constructed nor why the civilization declined around 1600. Much of this is due to the strange fact that the people of Great Zimbabwe left behind no record of a written language nor any oral traditions. The fact that the civilization disappeared as well as the impressive and mysterious walls make the Great Zimbabwe one of the truly lost civilizations of the world.



Ruins of the Great Zimbabwe:

See most of those inventions you listed aren't true.

http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story097.htm

The invention of the typewriter was not created by some black guy name lee, but was by some white guy named william burt. Lee is not mentioned anywhere in this article about the invention of the typewriter.

Ahh well I learn something new everyday. I'll have to look up some more things on that, like i said I do agree with you blacks arent the most technological we seem to be able to pick up on things rather quickly(or at least thats how it seems to me) As for the questions about Africa honestly African American and Africans do not get along all that well so i havent researched that culture to much. I'm heading out now but when I get back ill try to look something up and post it here. :genius:

These pictures don't show anything, since they're too primitive.

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I invented the Vietnamese spring roll.



Now what!

Chinese invented the spring roll, Vietnamese just derived something else from it.

lol the Chinese Spring roll and Vietnamese spring roll have nothing in common except there is some food material that "wraps around food".

Vietnamese use some "clear tranparent noodle to wrap around the food." While Chinese spring rolls don't even use the same ingrediants.

Hell Chinese spring rolls are fried, Vietnamese spring rolls are dipped in water and aren't cooked at all. Then you dip them in fish sauce and eat them.

The only thing they have in common? is that they wrap food and are "rolled" into wraps.

Just because one is called "Chinese Spring roll" and another is called "Vietnamese spring roll" doesn't mean they are similar except for the shape.

How can Vietnamese spring roll be a derivative when they have almost nothing in common, most of the ingrediants are not the same.

lol, perhaps Vietnamese adopted the name "spring roll" then.

Vietnamese don't call it spring roll I think.

Then I should apologize for my senseless comment.

http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=596&ntid=116&pg=6

Vietnam the first country to develop a product based on nanotechnology.

For those of you who don't know nanotechnology is basically very small technology which is like the size of a molecule.

I think Vietnam should invest in more nanotech and maybe it can really benefit us.

Think of what you can do with all that? You can repair body molecules, kill any kind of diseases by just programming the small technology to go "hunt" any viruses down.


You can also use it to infect any enemies during war time by releasing billions of these nanotech into the air and maybe converting the air in the enemies's country into a dangerous gas and they won't be able to breath.

I think nanotechnology will be one of the most biggest inventions in history and Vietnam has lead the way by inventing the first product that uses it.

There are many reasons Africans and African Americans don't get along being part african myself let's me get the top secrect info at work. 70% of the people at work are African 15% are African Americans 5% are of asian decent and the rest are from diffrent races caucasian, hispanic, ect...( based on what I see)

anyway they told me ( the African Americans) that those Africans think they are so much better than us. In my mind I'm thinking yeah they are but not as people but as a culture. If I didn't care for others feelings I would have told them what I thought of african decendents Identyfying as black( if you can't Imagine what I feel like and if you're Asian, try to imagine calling each other yellow it sounds stupid dosen't it)

from the African point of view at work they don't want anything to do with the African americans there they talk with other Africans at break time in their own groups.


things are like this because one group thinks the other group is Inferior.

yeah, you are ignorant. the polynesian ppl seafared to almost all the islands of the pacific. hawaii is just one island they settled and colonized.

Tongan people are so nice. Thats like the perfect place to chill forever.




Some of the women are hot too. haha.

Actually, there are non-fried Chinese spring rolls, but they are still different from Vietnamese spring rolls in many ways.

Not to mention the invention of the Xuong machine that is sold for $300,000 USD each.

Question:

What is this called in English and/or Vietnamese? I only know the Dutch name, which is "loempia".

wow, we have those too, in the Philippines we call it "Lumpiang Shanghai"