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| QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 02:28 PM) |
| But even if we are austraneasians, I don't mind being called one. Nothing to be ashamed of. |
Well Austronesia refers specifically to the South East Asian archipelagos, so mainlanders like Thais, Khmers, Viets and so on are not included.
| QUOTE (akara @ Jun 25 2004, 09:40 PM) | ||
Well Austronesia refers specifically to the South East Asian archipelagos, so mainlanders like Thais, Khmers, Viets and so on are not included. |
If Khmers aren't Austronesian and Mongoloid. What are they then?
Negritos?
Why is basic anthropologist concept and human classification so hard for some people to understand?
| QUOTE (Menikani @ Jun 25 2004, 09:50 PM) |
| Why is basic anthropologist concept and human classification so hard for some people to understand? |
Well, didn't negritos went to places like Cambodia, Southern Vietnam, Malaysia etc.?
Cambodians certainly aren't Mongoloid. And if they aren't Austronesian, what are they then?
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 02:47 PM) | ||||
If Khmers aren't Austronesian and Mongoloid. What are they then? Negritos? |
Anthropologist don't know where Khmers come from. Their origin is somewhat of a mystery but there are theories that they are from the Measian group.
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 02:47 PM) | ||||
If Khmers aren't Austronesian and Mongoloid. What are they then? Negritos? |
Don't you know anything only malaysians,indonesians, filipinos and to some extent pacific islanders are austronesian. Austronesians are the descendents of the sea farring indegionous people of Taiwan before the chinese arrived. As for the mainland SEAsians didn't they come from Southern China?
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 02:53 PM) | ||
Well, didn't negritos went to places like Cambodia, Southern Vietnam, Malaysia etc.? Cambodians certainly aren't Mongoloid. And if they aren't Austronesian, what are they then? |
I don't think you understand the true and complete meaning of "Mongoloid". Austronesian is a sub-group of "Mongoloid". Malays are also classified as "Mongoloid" as well.
Also isn't Austronesian a geographical classification and Mongoloid a racial?
mainland southeast asians are negritos mixed with austronesian and Sinid/Mongolid.
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
| QUOTE (Menikani @ Jun 25 2004, 09:57 PM) | ||||
I don't think you understand the true and complete meaning of "Mongoloid". Austronesian is a sub-group of "Mongoloid". Malays are also classified as "Mongoloid" as well. Also isn't Austronesian a geographical classification and Mongoloid a racial? |
Hmm, not sure...
Why don't you inform me about this?
Edit: sorry, I now see that i mixed up "mongoloid" and "mongolid".
QUOTE(浪淘音 @ Jun 25 2004, 02:59 PM)
mainland southeast asians are negritos mixed with austronesian and Sinid/Mongolid.
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
So you are admitting Chinese have made contact with Negritos then.
| QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 10:02 PM) | ||
So you are admitting Chinese have made contact with Negritos then. Vietnamese NEVER had contact with Negritos. I have shown articles that showed that they lived in 2 different places. So if anyone is likely a negrito then it is Chinese, since you admit they had historical records with them and thus made contact, while Vietnamese never met one before. Of course I won't sink as low and claim Chinese interbred with Negritos without proof unlike some people. |
I don't think Chinese had encouters with Negritos at mainland China.
| QUOTE (浪淘音) | ||
mainland southeast asia is definitely negrito. i honestly cannot differentiate Negritos from Austronesians. they have the same rough nappy like hair, brown skin, wide nose, short legs, skulls that slop at 40 degree angle, and huge bulging eyes. i've read many sources that simply claim that Austronesians are are admixtures of Austroloids, a group which includes Veddoids, Australians, Negritos and Papuans; with Mongoloids. the overwhelming majority of southeast asian languages belong to the Austro-Tai group and racial types are definitely Negrito mixed with some mongoloid |
Whoa! Easy there buddy. I don't really care if you feel that you're superior to South East Asians, but lets not make rediculous exaggerations about the way we look. The overwhelming majority of mainland SE Asians and Austronesians do not have nappy hair. Wide nose and short legs?....perhaps, but this applies to many Chinese as well. Brown skin?....sure, but with much more variety. Skulls that slope at 40 degrees? WTF are you thinking? Seriously, do you realise how sharp an angle that is?
Go grab a protractor and see for yourself. Rather extreme, I think. Lol @ huge bulging eyes! That's hilarious. 
Actually, I think the eyes of SE Asians are deeply set in comparison to East Asians. How exactly are they bulging? Haha.
but didnt chinese mixed with viet? so if chinese mixed with viet doesn't mean tehy have australoid blood in the? and yeah i read an article that one ancient chinese empress might have been negroid.
and yeah black asians have alot of media jayz and foxy brown are hafl flips. or so according to asian magazine.
and yeah black asians have alot of media jayz and foxy brown are hafl flips. or so according to asian magazine.
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 03:01 PM) |
Hmm, not sure... Why don't you inform me about this? Edit: sorry, I now see that i mixed up "mongoloid" and "mongolid". |
Well, your use of the word "Mongoloid" is a term used in anthropology. In Anthropology, there is only Negroid, Caucazoid and Mongoloid. There is no "Austronesian" "Malay" "Negritos" used in Anthropology. They are two completely different classification.
| QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Jun 25 2004, 03:05 PM) |
| but didnt chinese mixed with viet? so if chinese mixed with viet doesn't mean tehy have australoid blood in the? and yeah i read an article that one ancient chinese empress might have been negroid. and yeah black asians have alot of media jayz and foxy brown are hafl flips. or so according to asian magazine. |
No they are not half filipinos, they were even asked if they were and said no. And calling filipinos the name flip is dregogatory. Why don't you use the name pinoy instead.
QUOTE(Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 03:04 PM)
QUOTE(Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(浪淘音 @ Jun 25 2004, 02:59 PM)
mainland southeast asians are negritos mixed with austronesian and Sinid/Mongolid.
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
Negritos populated parts of southern China and migrated into southeast asia. There are Chinese documented encounters with negritos of Thailand, Cambodia, etc
So you are admitting Chinese have made contact with Negritos then.
Vietnamese NEVER had contact with Negritos. I have shown articles that showed that they lived in 2 different places.
So if anyone is likely a negrito then it is Chinese, since you admit they had historical records with them and thus made contact, while Vietnamese never met one before.
Of course I won't sink as low and claim Chinese interbred with Negritos without proof unlike some people.
I don't think Chinese had encouters with Negritos at mainland China.
Negritos are extinct in mainland South East Asia by the time Vietnamese got to the places where they settled.
Negritos migrated into southeast asia long before Hans came into contact with them. just because you had contact, doesn't mean you breed. Shang Dynasty Chinese were known for genocide and human sacrifice of negritos and other barbarians.
it is known that Negritos populated all of southeast asia, they are the aboriginal people of southeat asia.
the Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid Australoid classification system is archaic. Anthropologists can easily differentiate a skull from Northern China(Sinid/Mongolid) from a skull from Viet(Negrito admixture)
it is known that Negritos populated all of southeast asia, they are the aboriginal people of southeat asia.
the Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid Australoid classification system is archaic. Anthropologists can easily differentiate a skull from Northern China(Sinid/Mongolid) from a skull from Viet(Negrito admixture)
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 02:47 PM) | ||||
If Khmers aren't Austronesian and Mongoloid. What are they then? Negritos? |
The Khmer language belongs to the Mon-Khmer linguistic family and according to this fairly recently published paper, Mon-Khmers are classified as Mongoloid.
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Scroll down to "4. Ethnic Affiliation"
"Mongoloid" means nothing, its an archaic term. besides i have never referred to northeast asians as mongoloid, i said MONGOLID
| QUOTE (浪淘音 @ Jun 25 2004, 03:12 PM) |
| Negritos migrated into southeast asia long before Hans came into contact with them. just because you had contact, doesn't mean you breed. Shang Dynasty Chinese were known for genocide and human sacrifice of negritos and other barbarians. it is known that Negritos populated all of southeast asia, they are the aboriginal people of southeat asia. the Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid Australoid classification system is archaic. Anthropologists can easily differentiate a skull from Northern China(Sinid/Mongolid) from a skull from Viet(Negrito admixture) |
Isn't genocide and human sacrifice considered barbaric.
| QUOTE (浪淘音 @ Jun 25 2004, 03:12 PM) |
| Negritos migrated into southeast asia long before Hans came into contact with them. just because you had contact, doesn't mean you breed. Shang Dynasty Chinese were known for genocide and human sacrifice of negritos and other barbarians. it is known that Negritos populated all of southeast asia, they are the aboriginal people of southeat asia. the Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid Australoid classification system is archaic. Anthropologists can easily differentiate a skull from Northern China(Sinid/Mongolid) from a skull from Viet(Negrito admixture) |
Will you stop calling Vietnamese negritos without any proof.
Find me some proofs that we have negrito genes and then I'll accept I'm a negrito.
Hell I might as well call Chinese people negritos as well without any proof.
Negritos DON'T exist in mainland South East Asia today. They were extinct before Vietnamese made any contact with them period. Hell Anthropolgist didn't even know they existed in mainland South East Asia until fossil remains were found in a cave in mainland South East Asia.
As for skulls, all homosapian skulls look alike, how the fu-k can anyone tell the difference between homosapian skulls?
| QUOTE (浪淘音 @ Jun 25 2004, 03:13 PM) |
| "Mongoloid" means nothing, its an archaic term. besides i have never referred to northeast asians as mongoloid, i said MONGOLID |
And what, pray tell, is a Mongolid? Besides, my post was in response to Emperor.
| QUOTE (浪淘音) |
| it is known that Negritos populated all of southeast asia, they are the aboriginal people of southeat asia. |
Native Indians populated all of North America, they are the aboriginal people of North America. Your point is? As far as I'm concerned, that's an inconclusive detail.
| QUOTE (浪淘音) |
| the Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid Australoid classification system is archaic. Anthropologists can easily differentiate a skull from Northern China(Sinid/Mongolid) from a skull from Viet(Negrito admixture) |
This I find interesting. Mind sharing the sources that allowed you to draw such a conclusion?
Chinese interbred with Negritos. Why do you think Chinese chicks like black d!ck today & why do you think Viet chicks religiously stay with their own unless theyve been hit with mad influnence....
omg, are blasians really that ugly that they deserve to be looked down? they are still asians and they only differ from their colours....
| QUOTE (PervertBurger @ Jun 25 2004, 10:31 PM) |
| Chinese interbred with Negritos. Why do you think Chinese chicks like black d!ck today & why do you think Viet chicks religiously stay with their own unless theyve been hit with mad influnence.... |
It's the blacks that hit on Chinese chicks. Not the other way around.
| QUOTE (BatangDamo @ Jun 25 2004, 03:35 PM) |
| omg, are blasians really that ugly that they deserve to be looked down? they are still asians and they only differ from their colours.... |
No one's looking down on Blasians here. If you read this topic the insults are directed at Austranesians and Negritos as well.
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 03:43 PM) | ||
It's the blacks that hit on Chinese chicks. Not the other way around. |
Yah right pal. LOL.
Don't be ashamed.
Viets own you when it comes to purity. Chinese nationalist my @$$...Viets don't even need a fu-king Nationalist group to set them in line. Their $hit is natural. Their not that stupid. They know better.
hmmmm, this topic has turned into whos better than who...........
| QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 02:28 PM) | ||||||||
Maybe we can ask the Austranesian expert Dalawapo. lol But I know for sure Vietnamese never seen negritos at all. Some Khmer tried to prove that we interbred with Negritos, but I showed him articles that showed that Negritos lived in different places than the Vietnaemse people at the time and the Negritos were extinct by the time we reached where they lived. Actually Vietnamese never even knew Negritos existed until someone found remains of them in some cave in Vietnam in a land that we conquered. So if someone calls us Negritos, then I guess by their logic everyone else is as well since we never had contact with them ever just like those who accuse us of being like them. But even if we are austraneasians, I don't mind being called one. Nothing to be ashamed of. |
bryon, you should ask tgt or doan du about any austronesian connection with vietnamese. but secondly if you do have any connection then you totally have no concept of its cultural practice of extended familial relationships when you so blatantly and proudly proclaim your ppl came to southeast asia and so belligerently kill any ethnic Cham Malay or khmer group that stood in your way of expansion etc.
that is displacement and genocide. so how are you any better when u speak to these chinese expansionst and those khmer rouge wannabe?
i am austronesian culturally and lingustically. and i am thanking god to be isolated in islands away from this war like people with no respect for boarders only when it is their own.
Anyway i am withdrawing from this topic where everyone has a superiority complex.
Actually the Cham aren't innocent as well, they actually attacked us several times as well and sacked our capital once..
Vietnam didn't commit "genocide" against them, Vietnam just destroyed their kingdom, but Vietnam didn't try to kill every single one of them. Most Chams just left for Cambodia and Thailand after Vietnam kicked them out and interbred with the people there.
Vietnam didn't commit "genocide" against them, Vietnam just destroyed their kingdom, but Vietnam didn't try to kill every single one of them. Most Chams just left for Cambodia and Thailand after Vietnam kicked them out and interbred with the people there.
| QUOTE (PervertBurger @ Jun 25 2004, 10:45 PM) |
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You're right, they're not half as stupid as you are.
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Well it sounds like no one likes or wants to be associated with these Negritos from what I'm reading. I'm assuming they are of african descent or something?
| QUOTE (Emperor @ Jun 25 2004, 03:43 PM) |
| It's the blacks that hit on Chinese chicks. Not the other way around. |
Sorry for the double post but I've been hit on by Chinese girls before
| QUOTE (Jasel @ Jun 25 2004, 04:47 PM) |
| Well it sounds like no one likes or wants to be associated with these Negritos from what I'm reading. I'm assuming they are of african descent or something? |
No Negritos and Negroes aren't the same despite what Afrocentrist want you to believe.
Negritos and Negroes only have dark skin and frizzy hair and that's about it. They are pretty different genetically.
| QUOTE (Jasel @ Jun 25 2004, 04:47 PM) |
| Well it sounds like no one likes or wants to be associated with these Negritos from what I'm reading. I'm assuming they are of african descent or something? |
I do not think so, Negritos are the most primitive human beings on Earth. I don't really think one would take pride in that.
no negritos are not african. Negritos are Asian, because they live in the geographic location called Asia.
if they lived in africa, negritos would be called African, but they dont
Just because someons is a black doesnt mean they are automatically an african.
only an afrocentrist would try to claim anything to do with a negrito because they have black skin....
if they lived in africa, negritos would be called African, but they dont
Just because someons is a black doesnt mean they are automatically an african.
only an afrocentrist would try to claim anything to do with a negrito because they have black skin....
| QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Jun 25 2004, 03:07 PM) | ||
No they are not half filipinos, they were even asked if they were and said no. And calling filipinos the name flip is dregogatory. Why don't you use the name pinoy instead. |
deragotory to some, it ain't to me. it's people who put meaning to it. but how is flip a derogatory word, it's just short for filipino? it's your intent with the word not your terminology.
| QUOTE (Jasel @ Jun 25 2004, 04:48 PM) | ||
Sorry for the double post but I've been hit on by Chinese girls before |
heh I've been hit on by all colors, believe it or not even a Cambodian girl
It is a common mistake to believe that negritos are related to negroes, but they are both genetically different and the only things they have in common is the pigment of their skin and their frizzy hair, and that's basically it.
| QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Jun 25 2004, 04:52 PM) | ||||
deragotory to some, it ain't to me. it's people who put meaning to it. but how is flip a derogatory word, it's just short for filipino? it's your intent with the word not your terminology. |
shut up flip. when you use flip you are not only using it for yourselve you are giving the impression to all ethnicities it is ok to use the word flip. so your hurting every filipino.
its ok to you. but in america flip has perogative feeling. i am disgusted along with many other filipinos in your ignorance and disrespect.
| QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 25 2004, 04:51 PM) | ||
I do not think so, Negritoes are the most primitive human beings on Earth. I don't really think one would take pride in that. |
So you are saying if you had a negrito grandparent you would be ashamed?
flip = deragotory term for a Filipino I'm assuming? Have never heard it before.
| QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 25 2004, 04:59 PM) | ||||||
shut up flip. when you use flip you are not only using it for yourselve you are giving the impression to all ethnicities it is ok to use the word flip. so your hurting every filipino. its ok to you. but in america flip has perogative feeling. i am disgusted along with many other filipinos in your ignorance and disrespect. |
I thought FlipCombatMedic was an ethinic Chinese living in the Phillipines?
| QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jun 25 2004, 05:00 PM) | ||||
So you are saying if you had a negrito grandparent you would be ashamed? |
Yes, what is there to take pride in ?
| QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 25 2004, 05:13 PM) |
| Yes, what is there to take pride in ? |
I think every one should be proud of who they are , regardless of what they are .. maybe negritos will grow taller if they're givin humane growth hormones,
The argument by the Chinese guy with 3 characters that since Negritos used to live in parts of Vietnam before they were extinct then Vietnamese must be part Negrito. That is hardly any proof, does that mean White Americans are part Native since they now live in what was once native land? Hell that makes more sense than the Vietnamese and the Negrito since we never had contact with Negritos and they were extinct before they did.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/Communiques...the%20white.htm
Relatives of the Negritos (Andaman Association)
1. The Malaysian Negrito
2. The Philippine Negrito
3. The Shompen of Great Nicobar
4. The Moken of the Burma Coast
5. The Vedda of Sri Lanka
6. The Veddoid of Southern India
7. The Dravidians of India
8. The Naga of India
9. The Kubu of Sumatra and others
10. The Ayome of New Guinea and others
11. The Papuans of Papua-NewGuinea
12. The Melanesians of the Pacific
13. The Australians
14. The Tasmanians
15. The Khoisan of South Africa
16. The Pygmies of Central Africa
17. Negritos in Japan and China
18. Negritos in the Americas and "Luzia"
Well well well, surprise surprise, there are also Negritos in China and Japan as well.
So I guess according to this guy's logic since Negritos live or lived in China and Japan, then I guess Chinese and Japanese are negritos as well.
So according to this guy's logic, everyone is a negrito.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/Communiques...the%20white.htm
Relatives of the Negritos (Andaman Association)
1. The Malaysian Negrito
2. The Philippine Negrito
3. The Shompen of Great Nicobar
4. The Moken of the Burma Coast
5. The Vedda of Sri Lanka
6. The Veddoid of Southern India
7. The Dravidians of India
8. The Naga of India
9. The Kubu of Sumatra and others
10. The Ayome of New Guinea and others
11. The Papuans of Papua-NewGuinea
12. The Melanesians of the Pacific
13. The Australians
14. The Tasmanians
15. The Khoisan of South Africa
16. The Pygmies of Central Africa
17. Negritos in Japan and China
18. Negritos in the Americas and "Luzia"
Well well well, surprise surprise, there are also Negritos in China and Japan as well.
So I guess according to this guy's logic since Negritos live or lived in China and Japan, then I guess Chinese and Japanese are negritos as well.
So according to this guy's logic, everyone is a negrito.
| QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 05:00 PM) | ||||||||
I thought FlipCombatMedic was an ethinic Chinese living in the Phillipines? |
i truly do not care what he is if he is so selfish that he does not care for the feeling of the majority of his fellow filipino people and will continue to prepetuate a dereogatory designation because HE PERSONALLY does not have an issue with it.
i would truly like to know his experince with the term Flip. how many fights has he experince over it.
he will use the term flip to refer to himself, and other ethnicity will see it and call another filipino a flip. a filipino that does not share the same feeling of endearment, and will fight that guy because it is the worst offense.
but flipmedic doesnt care, as long as he is living in his happy little world flip floping through field picking daisy.
| QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 25 2004, 05:22 PM) |
| So according to this guy's logic, I'm a negrito, your a negrito, everyone is a fu-kING negrito. |
No Byron that part manchu dude is probably part negrito too
Actually in this list I don't see Vietnam or mainland South East Asia listed. So I guess everyone is a negrito except for mainland South East Asians and Koreans. LOL Just joking.
1. The Malaysian Negrito
2. The Philippine Negrito
3. The Shompen of Great Nicobar
4. The Moken of the Burma Coast
5. The Vedda of Sri Lanka
6. The Veddoid of Southern India
7. The Dravidians of India
8. The Naga of India
9. The Kubu of Sumatra and others
10. The Ayome of New Guinea and others
11. The Papuans of Papua-NewGuinea
12. The Melanesians of the Pacific
13. The Australians
14. The Tasmanians
15. The Khoisan of South Africa
16. The Pygmies of Central Africa
17. Negritos in Japan and China
18. Negritos in the Americas and "Luzia"
1. The Malaysian Negrito
2. The Philippine Negrito
3. The Shompen of Great Nicobar
4. The Moken of the Burma Coast
5. The Vedda of Sri Lanka
6. The Veddoid of Southern India
7. The Dravidians of India
8. The Naga of India
9. The Kubu of Sumatra and others
10. The Ayome of New Guinea and others
11. The Papuans of Papua-NewGuinea
12. The Melanesians of the Pacific
13. The Australians
14. The Tasmanians
15. The Khoisan of South Africa
16. The Pygmies of Central Africa
17. Negritos in Japan and China
18. Negritos in the Americas and "Luzia"
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