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LoserSQRD
I just came home 10 minutes ago and my mom asked me if I would like to get married to a native Vietnamese woman and get paid $30, 000. I've heard of people marrying non-Canadian/American for money before, but I've never been propositioned by my family before. The details are unclear, but they said I don't have to start a family with this woman, I don't have any responsibilities, all I have to do is sign the marriage certificate and live together for a short amount of time before we go our separate ways.

What I am asking is, does anyone have any information for someone in my situation? Do you know of someone who has married someone overseas and brought them over for money? I'm putting serious consideration into it because I'm flat broke, closed my bank account about 2 months ago, and I have less than 50 dollars cash on hand. I really need the money, and I'm not worried about the consequences on my values and beliefs-mainly because I don't have them anymore. I just want some information.

Well?
Nha Le
QUOTE(LoserSQRD @ Oct 12 2006, 10:28 PM) *

I just came home 10 minutes ago and my mom asked me if I would like to get married to a native Vietnamese woman and get paid $30, 000. I've heard of people marrying non-Canadian/American for money before, but I've never been propositioned by my family before. The details are unclear, but they said I don't have to start a family with this woman, I don't have any responsibilities, all I have to do is sign the marriage certificate and live together for a short amount of time before we go our separate ways.

What I am asking is, does anyone have any information for someone in my situation? Do you know of someone who has married someone overseas and brought them over for money? I'm putting serious consideration into it because I'm flat broke, closed my bank account about 2 months ago, and I have less than 50 dollars cash on hand. I really need the money, and I'm not worried about the consequences on my values and beliefs-mainly because I don't have them anymore. I just want some information.

Well?


Are you going to get a prenup?
LoserSQRD
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 12 2006, 11:31 PM) *

Are you going to get a prenup?


LOL.

I mentioned that I'm broke. I have about 50 dollars cash and that's literally it.


Man, no one is answering my question seriously.
Dpham313
i'v heard its a hassle. have to go to ins frequently for checkups. plus your in it for 5 years.
Nha Le
QUOTE(Dpham313 @ Oct 12 2006, 10:38 PM) *

i'v heard its a hassle. have to go to ins frequently for checkups. plus your in it for 5 years.

Wow a lot of thing can happend in 5 years. eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif

BTW what ethnic are you?
TINMAN
Entering a marriage contract for money is not as simple as signing a certificate or sharing living spaces. It would be wise to sit down with all parties to go through the minute details and arrangements to have a better understanding of what is involved.
Dpham313
consider if you want to spend 5 years with someone who you might not even turn out to like for 30000. and its not like they're going to give you 30000 straight up.
TINMAN
Most likely, they would pay 1/3 for the marriage license, another 1/3 once the spouse is in the US, and the last 1/3 once the spouse received a green card.
Nha Le
Now that I think about it $30,000 is nothing. The government takes close that amount from my paycheck every year. icon_sad.gif
blacklight
If the governments are American, Canadian or French, they will check carefully the details of your married life to make sure that they are not being played. Consider the game up when a government interviewer asks you your spouse's date of birth, and you are stumped. Or about the first time you met, and you and your spouse give different answers in separate interviews.

TINMAN
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 12 2006, 11:05 PM) *

Now that I think about it $30,000 is nothing. The government takes close that amount from my paycheck every year. icon_sad.gif

It must suck to be an employee, but as long as you're happy.

QUOTE(blacklight @ Oct 12 2006, 11:06 PM) *

If the governments are American, Canadian or French, they will check carefully the details of your married life to make sure that they are not being played. Consider the game up when a government interviewer asks you your spouse's date of birth, and you are stumped. Or about the first time you met, and you and your spouse give different answers in separate interviews.

They could also ask what color or articles of clothing your spouse wore on your honeymoon.
Dpham313
plus you said you were broke. that might hurt your chances of even getting a marriage license. you'll have to get a sponsor to sign for you.
LoserSQRD
QUOTE(blacklight @ Oct 13 2006, 12:06 AM) *

If the governments are American, Canadian or French, they will check carefully the details of your married life to make sure that they are not being played. Consider the game up when a government interviewer asks you your spouse's date of birth, and you are stumped. Or about the first time you met, and you and your spouse give different answers in separate interviews.


why does the govt insist that I marry for love? Can I not say straight up that I wanted to marry her because i wanted to start a family?
TINMAN
QUOTE(Dpham313 @ Oct 12 2006, 11:10 PM) *

plus you said you were broke. that might hurt your chances of even getting a marriage license. you'll have to get a sponsor to sign for you.

Do you need to show proof of income? In Vietnam or overseas.
Dpham313
when it deals with no-citizens, they're going to be strict like that.
tinman, my buddy had his request turn down cuz his income was too low. he had to have another person sign the marriage license saying they would support him and his spouse finacially.
Nha Le
The sad thing I fear is that you might fall in love with her but she want a divorce after 5 years.
Dpham313
^ it happens alot. sometimes, the female/male will have a lover at home that they bring over when they get the green card.
TINMAN
If the government of Vietnam is that strict about it, then you're probably better off marrying an international student. It'll save you a trip back to Vietnam, unless you plan on sponsoring her as a fiancee.
Dpham313
^ this is an american policy. i don't kno about vietnam's policy.
TINMAN
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 12 2006, 11:16 PM) *

The sad thing I fear is that you might fall in love with her but she want a divorce after 5 years.

Remember that this is a business contract and not a potential courtship. Both parties must reach an understanding at the very beginning to avoid future hassles.

QUOTE(Dpham313 @ Oct 12 2006, 11:19 PM) *

^ this is an american policy. i don't kno about vietnam's policy.

You're right, it would look suspicious if you didn't have a career or made a decent income to support a family. The INS would be on your case for sure.
Nha Le
QUOTE(TINMAN @ Oct 12 2006, 11:29 PM) *

Remember that this is a business contract and not a potential courtship. Both parties must reach an understanding at the very beginning to avoid future hassles.
You're right, it would look suspicious if you didn't have a career or made a decent income to support a family. The INS would be on your case for sure.

Excuse can be his parents doing this as a arrangment marriage for thier loving son.
TINMAN
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 12 2006, 11:32 PM) *

Excuse can be his parents doing this as a arrangment marriage for thier loving son.

It would make more sense for his parents to help their loving son find a job, instead of this quick money risky business.
Dpham313
doesn't work for a non-citizen. you can if both parties were citizens.
plus telling ins that your marrying off your son for money sounds like prostitution
TINMAN
Well, it doesn't look like this fake marriage is going to work. I guess it's time to get a job or go back to school.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(LoserSQRD @ Oct 12 2006, 10:28 PM) *

I just came home 10 minutes ago and my mom asked me if I would like to get married to a native Vietnamese woman and get paid $30, 000. I've heard of people marrying non-Canadian/American for money before, but I've never been propositioned by my family before. The details are unclear, but they said I don't have to start a family with this woman, I don't have any responsibilities, all I have to do is sign the marriage certificate and live together for a short amount of time before we go our separate ways.

What I am asking is, does anyone have any information for someone in my situation? Do you know of someone who has married someone overseas and brought them over for money? I'm putting serious consideration into it because I'm flat broke, closed my bank account about 2 months ago, and I have less than 50 dollars cash on hand. I really need the money, and I'm not worried about the consequences on my values and beliefs-mainly because I don't have them anymore. I just want some information.

Well?



$30K sounds alot but if you divide that by 5- its only $6K a year. I'm sure you can find $6K plus easily a year doing anything out there. Plus you don't get all $30K up front. ok, let say you don't care, money is money and you need it now. what are the risks and the reward?

Well, the reward is the $30K and you bring someone over here who will have a better life. that's it!
The risks? there are plenty.
If you get caught; its 5 years in prison and $200K fine, something like that.
If you have a girlfriend, she might not like it and if you are looking for a girlfriend, she might not trust you. You have to deal with it for the next 5 years.
Expect to go back to Vietnam few times for interviews both from the Vietnam government and US consulate. Who will pay for your trips? Need to deal with this ahead.
If you can minimize these risks then go for it. Some "du hoc sinh vien" are also want to stay so if you have connection, I think this is better.
Oh, also there are two ways to get her over here. One is by marriage where you married her in Vietnam and two is by fiancee visa. If you married her in Vietnam, it will take over a year for her to get here but she will have her green card once she's here. Fiancee way is faster but she gets her green card in 2years(?) once she's here in the US. I also recommend you to go the the INS and read their guidelines. good luck!

I also know some don't do it for money but do it for each other family relatives. For example, you marry my cousin and I marry your cousin. biggrin.gif

Jarhier
5 year does sound like a long time..especially when you cant stand her living together
bun_bo_hue
Ahh, same topic again. Well, do you really want to do this? Or you want to make your mom happy? If your mom is forcing you to do this then let me talk to her. I'm good at convincing old people. biggrin.gif
TINMAN
QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Oct 13 2006, 12:13 AM) *

I also know some don't do it for money but do it for each other family relatives. For example, you marry my cousin and I marry your cousin. biggrin.gif

I've heard of this new trend of cross marriages.


I spoke to a Filipino guy once he told me that fake marriages only cost $8K in the Phillippines. Why such a discrepancy? In Mexico, it's $15K.
cuteo
QUOTE(LoserSQRD @ Oct 12 2006, 10:28 PM) *

I just came home 10 minutes ago and my mom asked me if I would like to get married to a native Vietnamese woman and get paid $30, 000. I've heard of people marrying non-Canadian/American for money before, but I've never been propositioned by my family before. The details are unclear, but they said I don't have to start a family with this woman, I don't have any responsibilities, all I have to do is sign the marriage certificate and live together for a short amount of time before we go our separate ways.

What I am asking is, does anyone have any information for someone in my situation? Do you know of someone who has married someone overseas and brought them over for money? I'm putting serious consideration into it because I'm flat broke, closed my bank account about 2 months ago, and I have less than 50 dollars cash on hand. I really need the money, and I'm not worried about the consequences on my values and beliefs-mainly because I don't have them anymore. I just want some information.

Well?


Haha...you gotta be kidding me laugh.gif
Well first of all, it is amoral. Second, it is illegal. Aside from that, suppose we are speaking strictly from a money-making scheme point of view, let's see how good a deal you have made should you choose 'DEAL'.

Scenario#1: (DEAL)
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$30,000 for 5 years which is $6,000 per year --> $500 per month --> $125 per week --> $25 per day
--> $3.125 an hour. The current minimim hourly wage is around $5.15 per hour.


Scenario#2: (NO DEAL)
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At a minimum hourly wage $5.15, you can earn $41.2 a day --> $206 a week
--> $824 a month --> $9888 a year (at this bracket you won't be taxed) --> $49,440 over the span of 5 years. That mean you trade in a suitcase for $19,440 short laugh.gif

DEAL or NO DEAL !! that is a question!!! biggthumpup.gif
Nha Le
QUOTE(cuteo @ Oct 13 2006, 12:07 PM) *

Haha...you gotta be kidding me laugh.gif
Well first of all, it is amoral. Second, it is illegal. Aside from that, suppose we are speaking strictly from a money-making scheme point of view, let's see how good a deal you have made should you choose 'DEAL'.

Scenario#1: (DEAL)
-------------
$30,000 for 5 years which is $6,000 per year --> $500 per month --> $125 per week --> $25 per day
--> $3.125 an hour. The current minimim hourly wage is around $5.15 per hour.
Scenario#2: (NO DEAL)
-------------
At a minimum hourly wage $5.15, you can earn $41.2 a day --> $206 a week
--> $824 a month --> $9888 a year (at this bracket you won't be taxed) --> $49,440 over the span of 5 years. That mean you trade in a suitcase for $19,440 short laugh.gif

DEAL or NO DEAL !! that is a question!!! biggthumpup.gif

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Forgot that working less than 10k you cannot be tax.
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