Do you think Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia have a special relationship with each other?

For me, I think so beause the three countries are next to each other geographically and they have historical importance with each other. Furthermore, as Vietnam grows economically, it is important for Vietnam to invest in Laos and Cambodia and improve the living standards of Vietnamese, Laotian, and Cambodian. It is a win-win situation for these three countries.

In the wartime of 1940s, the three Indochinese countries are very famous in Asia.
In a narrow sense, Indochina refers only to Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Which between 1893 and 1954 were united politically under name the name Frence Indochina

Thailand has a strong connection with Laos and Cambodia *Definately with Laos--as our languages and cultures are very similar (Tai-Kadai Substratum); and Laos was for a time being, part of the Siamese Empire*

Its the same with Cambodia--in terms of culture and religious doctorines; pretty much similar.

Regarding Thais and Khmers, I always thought you guys are as one people. But somehow either one of you guys spinned off from one another just like Lucent Technology spinned off from AT&T

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Three decades of
Coordinated
Solidarity
(1975 – 2005)
a creative vision and
challenging contradictions
October 2005
Jef Felix

^ Christian vision???

Keep monks and these religious groups out of our region. South East Asia, particularly Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma are Thervada Buddhist States.

We'd like to keep it that way.



Both countries, Thailand and Cambodia are very similar in many ways, yet very different in its own right. Both states have a strong history in south east asia--either it be military, political or cultural influences--as these factors were a two way process. Its safe to say that Cambodia influenced Thailand as Thailand influenced Cambodia. Both countries are the way they are today due to the regional situation and the imeasurable trade, and cultural influences both had on each other.

In terms of language--both countries are totally foreign. As the Thai language is of the tai-kadai substratum (a language that includes dai,tai,taishan,tailue,tai lao etc). The Cambodian language on the other hand is Mon-Khmer.

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I do agree--the region is learning to understand each other. Its impossible to separate thailand, laos and cambodia from one another--as the three countries have had massive interactions in the past and to the present.

Thailand has to deal with Myanmar and the Southern Insurgency. With these concerns, it is not feasible for Thailand to pay more attention to improve the relationship of Cambodia and Laos.

Southern Insurgency has been quelled. Dont you know, the government is having peace talk accords with southern leaders?

Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and Malaysia are immediate neighbours that Thailand needs to focus on

I am happy to hear that. I will keep my prayers for Thailand and Myanmar.

No


Mexico is next to the USA, does it mean it is important to the US?


How was Cambodia and Lao nation important to Đại Việt?


yep yep SoCal should ask Thailand to help Cambodia and Lao instead, their relation with each other are stronger than with us

LVF

As you grow older and your wisdom increases, you will understand.

SoCal,

What ethnicity are you? It has much to do with your thought.

While my ethnicity has something to do with my thinking, I believe that there exists within humanity the precious conscience that trancends national boundary and connects us to each other.

This is the map of French colonies in SE Asia. It is funny how you use it to establish our relationship with Lao and Cambodia I may use the map of British colonies to establish relationship between countries within British colonies too

btw, why was not Thailand colonized? It was the buffer between French and British colonies; both France and Great Britain had made a compact that neither of them will take Siam or they will go to war. This was the age of European Nationalism when European nations took pride in their navy, army, and competed against each other for colonies. France did not want to let Britain to have more colonies and neither did Britain want France to have more colonies. It was a competition to see who's greater than whom. They had fought each other for colonies in Africa; in SE, when they saw it's going to cost both side a great casualty, they decided to make a compact that they will stay in their line and neither of them would take Siam. If France made an attempt to take it, Britain will get into the game too, and they would fight like they did in Africa.

How is it funny that I use this map? I present a map to clarify my statement. Please do not belittle our intelligence at disecting the matters.

I understand that some Vietnamese, Laotian, and Cambodian people still resent each other and deny the importance of these three countries to each other. Fortunately, the leaders of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia are intelligent to realize that the success of each country means the success of three countries and vice versa.

How many Vietnamese here would agree with you?


OK, I guess I'll just leave you

You keep saying that Cambodia and Lao are important to Vietnam but you never prove it or say specifically how they are important to Vietnam You totally ignored my question and just diverted me to another direction

I don't.

LVF

You are so childish in political affairs. Have a good day.

You too

(never answers the question )

As for me we need to spend more time building a relation with rich country like Japan. To be the best you must first imitate the best and then find way to by pass them.

LVF

OK, live in peace and joy.

That's what we are doing right now Japan and Vietnam relation is going very well. Vietnamese culture is getting more popular in Vietnam, especially Phở and Áo Dài.

I didn't spot the decline. When was this?

A sign of a great country is to show humility and compassion to both the strong and the weak.

You just need to read the news

Do you often believe everything the media says?

again how many vietnamese here would agree with you?

and you totally ignored my questions
1. How was Khmer important to Đại Việt / Việt Nam? We would be a lot better of if they weren't their as they allied with the Chinese against us.
2. How is Cambodia important to Vietnam now?


nope. but i do believe in what I see

Actually I do. If you strip down all the polical ideologies, nationalities, ethnicities, religions, traditions, etc... and deal with people on a personal/individual level, we are not that much different from one another. Hubris and vice sometime get in the way of humanity.



I am not trying to speak on be half of SoCal, but here's my two cents.
Why is it important for Laos and Cambodia to thrive economically and what it means for Vietnam ?
Nowaday, investment has gone globally which mean that even a country like Vietnam is investing else where beside at home. Having said that, if Cambodia and Laos are thriving economically, their citizens will prosper and hence the consumer power increases. That mean the products and services from each other countries will be benefitual. These benefits are always bi-directional. That is not to mention the stability of the region when countries prosper. Win-win situation.

In reality, there is no way to strip polical ideologies, nationalities, ethnicities, religions, traditions, etc...

Ok. SoCal is your $0.02.

You are correct from economics point of view, but not for other point of views such as security.

If SoCal doesn't want to answer your questions, then let put my opinion on this.

Khmer is/was never important to Viet Nam, and most likely they will ever be. I see Khmer as a threat than a potential friend.

Cambodia is very important to Viet Nam. If Cambodia becomes hostile to Viet Nam, then Viet Nam has to immediately invade and takeover Cambodia. At their position, if they have the same ambition and weapons like N. Korea, then they could blow up the viet nam southern economy, infrastructure, and etc. with 24-48 hours. There are certain people who are naive enough to believe friendship last forever and put your country at danger by trusting your neighbor.

Look at N. Korea today. Their artilleries are within range to blowup Soeul (capital of S. Korea). We wouldn't want that to happen to Viet Nam where Laos and Cambodia have the position to do it.

Of course I don't mean in that sense of stripping...if you take it literally as stripping all those then it's impossible. Maybe I'll give you an example to illustrate my point.
Let say you walk on a beach one day and spot someone drowning, (presume you know how to swim) would you save that person's life ? If your answer is yes, then you should have already known the answer.


How's is that from the security point of view that is not possible ?
I am catching your drift. Cambodia and Vietnam may have a history but that was in the past and there is no way to undo it. Be it the territory. But usually when two nations are economically tight (dependence) and intertwined, there ought to be a stability at least at some level otherwise it is detremental to both countries.

at least speak like cuteo

Cute! but in a debate, it doesn't really help your arguments.

The problem here is vietnamese don't trust Khmer and Khmer don't trust vietnamese. I do not believe friendship last forever. When conflict of interest arises, we will use all means to destroy one another.

You are visioning something that is not realistic.

I'd rather be at fault at take the first shot.

I don't mean to mock you or anything like that but for some reason, that kind of thinking is exactly the
thinking of Kim Jong Il and that is why his country is in such a predicament right now.

All I want to say is you cannot trust or rely on any country.

Agree. You can protect your own sovereignty without destroying others out of paranoia


Again, agree. I am not saying you're wrong. I am just saddenning that it is so.
But still, that doesn't mean that as an individual we cannot treat one another without seeing such differences
and trying to thrive with one another on all levels

Socal's 13th thread of the same topic

His memory is failing. I think it's dementia. He is not that young anymore.

There are things in life that are worthwhile to be repeated over.

I believe strongly in the solidarity and unity of Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.

I will go on your boat if you can list me 10 reasons why we should have greater solidarity with Cambodia and Laos.

OK, Nha Le

10 reasons that Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam should help each other.

1. Laos needs Vietnam to access the South China Sea.

2. Vietnam needs Laos to help Vietnam control and fight the drugs trade in the Golden Triangle.

3. The Mekong River flows from Laos to Vietnam to Cambodia. We need to work together to protect the Mekong River so that the river can provide food and livelihood to the people who are living there.

4. There are a large population of Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians who make up sizable groups in the other countries and vice versa. We need to cooperate so that these groups can have their connection to their home countries.

5. Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam can advertise to tourists that they can visit the three countries and experience a variety of travel sites. If I am a tourist, it provides more incentives and benefits to visit Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos to broaden my horizon. I believe a tourist, if he or she has a choice to visit Vietnam only or he or she has a choice to be able to visit Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, then he or she will choose the latter choice. This will increase tourism among Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos and bring in more revenue to increase the living standards of the native people in these three countries.

6. If Vietnam does not assist Laos and Cambodia, then Thailand and China will exert a greater influence on Laos and Cambodia. Vietnam cannot afford to live in isolation. Vietnam needs Laos and Cambodia to open trade route to Thailand to Myanmar and later to South Asia, particularly to India.

7. By cooperating with each other, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia can bind up the wounds of the past and will limit and decrease future hatreds and wars among each other.

8. If Vietnam does not assist Laos and Cambodia, they may turn out to be like Myanmar. Myanmar creates a lots of trouble for Thailand. It is important for Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos to be good neighbors to each other.

9. Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laotian cultures and traditions are very beautiful and precious. Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians can learn much from each other.

10. We cannot live in isolation and think that we are superior to other people. We need to learn from each other.

Thank you I agree with you on many of those reasons.

Nha Le, Everyone

Here is the map of Heroin Production and Trade.

Vietnam is part of the triangle.

Great, VietNam is part of the problem.

what are you talking about? Mexico is a big trading partner of the US next to canada .. DURH we need them and they are important

are you saying vietnam does not need laos and cambodia for it's economic growth?

Canada, United States, and Mexico need each other.