Full Version: Saigon in 2020
no.
i dont think so
but you can keep dreaming
i dont think so
but you can keep dreaming
QUOTE(ynots14 @ Oct 13 2006, 07:33 PM) 
no.
i dont think so
but you can keep dreaming
Want to make a million dollars bet?
Thủ Thiêm is khu kinh tế mới of Sài G̣n right? I won't be surprised it will look like that in 2020
I bet it will even look better than that....
god damn no trees left, vietnam is already hot its going to be even hotter.
2030-2040 is more reasonable.
What is the current status of this Thu Thiem urban project? I believe this project has been put on hold for almost 10 years now.
that city is going to be on fire due to the heat for all the mopeds and cars. but saigon right now is nothing like that except for like a little section of it and it is the little buildings
I can see it happening. Its very possible
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 14 2006, 10:35 AM)
Want to make a million dollars bet?
yeah ok
you got 14 years to get that money
actually 13 years and 2 months
looking at saigonese's sig, i think saigon will have more original/wierd/quirky buildings just like dubai UAE ...
Thats hideious. Vietnam should try to stay as close as possible with nature. They should incorporate it into their projects whenever they can, anywhere they can.
it is very possible
im only been gone for 3 years, and there are new building pop up everywhere
cant imagine how it is gonna be in 14 year
im only been gone for 3 years, and there are new building pop up everywhere
cant imagine how it is gonna be in 14 year
they will plant tree in parks. They just don't draw trees on that model. what the heck.
Modern Saigon in a few decades will look awesome. 
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 15 2006, 12:59 AM)
Modern Saigon in a few decades will look awesome.
Vietnam at this rate. Maybe 100 years then it's possible.
'A good project is the one that is still on the planning phase", this seems to hold truth to most project carried out in VietNam. When the project is actually executed, the funds seems to disappear mysteriously. So with inadequate funding = not enough materials = bad quality of delivery at the end.
QUOTE(lhhuy1 @ Oct 14 2006, 08:32 AM)
Vietnam at this rate. Maybe 100 years then it's possible.
It is possible.
Vietnam will accelerate much faster after the overseas Vietnamese and Vietnamese in Vietnam cooperate with each other to move Vietnam forward.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 15 2006, 01:49 AM)
It is possible.
Vietnam will accelerate much faster after the overseas Vietnamese and Vietnamese in Vietnam cooperate with each other to move Vietnam forward.
Yes, that's nice to dream about.
QUOTE(lhhuy1 @ Oct 14 2006, 08:54 AM)
Yes, that's nice to dream about.
Let's not waste our precious time on futile argument. It is better for me to focus my energy on more productive matters such as creating and building. Have a good day.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 14 2006, 10:49 AM)
It is possible.
Vietnam will accelerate much faster after the overseas Vietnamese and Vietnamese in Vietnam cooperate with each other to move Vietnam forward.
Same dream here. I have this same dream 10 years ago I just don't have the gut to do it yet.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 13 2006, 08:25 PM)
all this pic needs is a new 70000+ capacity football stadium.
If Vietnam do look like that by 2020 We might have a change at hosting an Olympic Game 20 years later.
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QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 14 2006, 11:49 AM)
It is possible.
Vietnam will accelerate much faster after the overseas Vietnamese and Vietnamese in Vietnam cooperate with each other to move Vietnam forward.
i'm not going to waste my time arguing with people like lhhuy1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saigon
History of Saigon/HCMC
"Ho Chi Minh City began as a small fishing village known as Prey Nokor. The area that the city now occupies was originally swampland, and was inhabited by Khmer people for centuries before the arrival of the Vietnamese.
In 1623, King Chey Chettha II of Cambodia (1618-1628) allowed Vietnamese refugees fleeing the Trinh-Nguyen civil war in Vietnam to settle in the area of Prey Nokor, and to set up a custom house at Prey Nokor. Increasing waves of Vietnamese settlers, which the Cambodian kingdom, weakened because of war with Thailand, could not impede, slowly Vietnamized the area. In time, Prey Nokor became known as Saigon.
In 1698, Nguyen Huu Canh, a Vietnamese noble, was sent by the Nguyen rulers of Huế to establish Vietnamese administrative structures in the area, thus detaching the area from Cambodia, which was not strong enough to intervene. He is often credited with the expansion of Saigon into a significant settlement. A large Vauban citadel called Gia Dinh has been built, which was later destroyed by the French over the Battle of Chi Hoa.
Conquered by France in 1859, the city was influenced by the French during their colonial occupation of Vietnam, and a number of classical western-style buildings in the city reflect this. So much so that Saigon was called "the Pearl of the Far East" (Ḥn ngọc Viễn Đông) or "Paris in the Orient" (Paris Phương Đông).
In 1954, the French were defeated by the Communist Viet Minh in the Battle of Điện Biên Phủ, and withdrew from Vietnam. Rather than recognizing the Communists as the new government, they gave their backing to a government established by Emperor Bảo Đại. Bảo Đại had set up Saigon as his capital in 1950. At that time Saigon and the city of Cholon (Chợ Lớn), which was inhabited primarily by Vietnamese Chinese, were combined into one administrative unit, called the Capital of Saigon (Đô Thành Sài G̣n in Vietnamese). When Vietnam was officially partitioned into North Vietnam (the Democratic Republic of Vietnam) and South Vietnam (the Republic of Vietnam), the southern government, led by President Ngô Đ́nh Diệm, retained Saigon as its capital.
At the conclusion of the Vietnam War, on April 30, 1975, the city came under the control of the Vietnam People's Army. In the U.S. this event is commonly called the "Fall of Saigon," while in Vietnam it is called the "Liberation of Saigon."
In 1976, upon the establishment of the unified communist Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the city of Saigon (including Cholon), the province of Gia Định and 2 suburban districts of two other nearby provinces were combined to create Hồ Chí Minh City in honour of the late communist leader Hồ Chí Minh. The former name Saigon is still widely used by many Vietnamese, especially in informal contexts. Generally, the term Saigon refers only to the urban districts of Hồ Chí Minh City. The word "Saigon" can also be found on shop signs all over the country, even in Hanoi. In terms like "Saigon Fashion" or "Saigon Style" the word "Saigon" is employed to connote chicness and modernity.
Today, the city's core is still adorned with wide elegant boulevards and historic French colonial buildings. The most prominent structures in the city center are Reunification Hall (Dinh Thống Nhất), City Hall (Uy ban Nhan dan), Municipal Theater (Nha hat Thanh pho), Post Office (Buu dien Thanh Pho), Revolutionary Museum (Bao tang Cach mang), State Bank Office (Ngan hang Nha nuoc), People's Court (Toa an Nhan dan) and Notre Dame Cathedral (Nhà thờ Đức Bà).
Ho Chi Minh City is home to a well-established ethnic Chinese population. Cholon, now known as District 5 and the parts of Districts 6, 10 and 11, serves as its Chinatown.
With a population now exceeding 7 million (registered residents plus migrant workers), Ho Chi Minh City is in need of vast increase in public infrastructure. To meet this need, the city and central governments have embarked on an effort to develop new urban centers. The two most prominent projects are the Thu Thiem city center in District 2 (currently under planning; construction not yet begun) and the Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7 (as part of the Saigon South project where various international schools such as the Japanese school, Australia's Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, the Taiwan and Korea schools are located)."
Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7
History of Saigon/HCMC
"Ho Chi Minh City began as a small fishing village known as Prey Nokor. The area that the city now occupies was originally swampland, and was inhabited by Khmer people for centuries before the arrival of the Vietnamese.
In 1623, King Chey Chettha II of Cambodia (1618-1628) allowed Vietnamese refugees fleeing the Trinh-Nguyen civil war in Vietnam to settle in the area of Prey Nokor, and to set up a custom house at Prey Nokor. Increasing waves of Vietnamese settlers, which the Cambodian kingdom, weakened because of war with Thailand, could not impede, slowly Vietnamized the area. In time, Prey Nokor became known as Saigon.
In 1698, Nguyen Huu Canh, a Vietnamese noble, was sent by the Nguyen rulers of Huế to establish Vietnamese administrative structures in the area, thus detaching the area from Cambodia, which was not strong enough to intervene. He is often credited with the expansion of Saigon into a significant settlement. A large Vauban citadel called Gia Dinh has been built, which was later destroyed by the French over the Battle of Chi Hoa.
Conquered by France in 1859, the city was influenced by the French during their colonial occupation of Vietnam, and a number of classical western-style buildings in the city reflect this. So much so that Saigon was called "the Pearl of the Far East" (Ḥn ngọc Viễn Đông) or "Paris in the Orient" (Paris Phương Đông).
In 1954, the French were defeated by the Communist Viet Minh in the Battle of Điện Biên Phủ, and withdrew from Vietnam. Rather than recognizing the Communists as the new government, they gave their backing to a government established by Emperor Bảo Đại. Bảo Đại had set up Saigon as his capital in 1950. At that time Saigon and the city of Cholon (Chợ Lớn), which was inhabited primarily by Vietnamese Chinese, were combined into one administrative unit, called the Capital of Saigon (Đô Thành Sài G̣n in Vietnamese). When Vietnam was officially partitioned into North Vietnam (the Democratic Republic of Vietnam) and South Vietnam (the Republic of Vietnam), the southern government, led by President Ngô Đ́nh Diệm, retained Saigon as its capital.
At the conclusion of the Vietnam War, on April 30, 1975, the city came under the control of the Vietnam People's Army. In the U.S. this event is commonly called the "Fall of Saigon," while in Vietnam it is called the "Liberation of Saigon."
In 1976, upon the establishment of the unified communist Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the city of Saigon (including Cholon), the province of Gia Định and 2 suburban districts of two other nearby provinces were combined to create Hồ Chí Minh City in honour of the late communist leader Hồ Chí Minh. The former name Saigon is still widely used by many Vietnamese, especially in informal contexts. Generally, the term Saigon refers only to the urban districts of Hồ Chí Minh City. The word "Saigon" can also be found on shop signs all over the country, even in Hanoi. In terms like "Saigon Fashion" or "Saigon Style" the word "Saigon" is employed to connote chicness and modernity.
Today, the city's core is still adorned with wide elegant boulevards and historic French colonial buildings. The most prominent structures in the city center are Reunification Hall (Dinh Thống Nhất), City Hall (Uy ban Nhan dan), Municipal Theater (Nha hat Thanh pho), Post Office (Buu dien Thanh Pho), Revolutionary Museum (Bao tang Cach mang), State Bank Office (Ngan hang Nha nuoc), People's Court (Toa an Nhan dan) and Notre Dame Cathedral (Nhà thờ Đức Bà).
Ho Chi Minh City is home to a well-established ethnic Chinese population. Cholon, now known as District 5 and the parts of Districts 6, 10 and 11, serves as its Chinatown.
With a population now exceeding 7 million (registered residents plus migrant workers), Ho Chi Minh City is in need of vast increase in public infrastructure. To meet this need, the city and central governments have embarked on an effort to develop new urban centers. The two most prominent projects are the Thu Thiem city center in District 2 (currently under planning; construction not yet begun) and the Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7 (as part of the Saigon South project where various international schools such as the Japanese school, Australia's Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, the Taiwan and Korea schools are located)."
Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 14 2006, 01:29 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saigon
History of Saigon/HCMC
"Ho Chi Minh City began as a small fishing village known as Prey Nokor. The area that the city now occupies was originally swampland, and was inhabited by Khmer people for centuries before the arrival of the Vietnamese.
In 1623, King Chey Chettha II of Cambodia (1618-1628) allowed Vietnamese refugees fleeing the Trinh-Nguyen civil war in Vietnam to settle in the area of Prey Nokor, and to set up a custom house at Prey Nokor. Increasing waves of Vietnamese settlers, which the Cambodian kingdom, weakened because of war with Thailand, could not impede, slowly Vietnamized the area. In time, Prey Nokor became known as Saigon.
In 1698, Nguyen Huu Canh, a Vietnamese noble, was sent by the Nguyen rulers of Huế to establish Vietnamese administrative structures in the area, thus detaching the area from Cambodia, which was not strong enough to intervene. He is often credited with the expansion of Saigon into a significant settlement. A large Vauban citadel called Gia Dinh has been built, which was later destroyed by the French over the Battle of Chi Hoa.
Conquered by France in 1859, the city was influenced by the French during their colonial occupation of Vietnam, and a number of classical western-style buildings in the city reflect this. So much so that Saigon was called "the Pearl of the Far East" (Ḥn ngọc Viễn Đông) or "Paris in the Orient" (Paris Phương Đông).
In 1954, the French were defeated by the Communist Viet Minh in the Battle of Điện Biên Phủ, and withdrew from Vietnam. Rather than recognizing the Communists as the new government, they gave their backing to a government established by Emperor Bảo Đại. Bảo Đại had set up Saigon as his capital in 1950. At that time Saigon and the city of Cholon (Chợ Lớn), which was inhabited primarily by Vietnamese Chinese, were combined into one administrative unit, called the Capital of Saigon (Đô Thành Sài G̣n in Vietnamese). When Vietnam was officially partitioned into North Vietnam (the Democratic Republic of Vietnam) and South Vietnam (the Republic of Vietnam), the southern government, led by President Ngô Đ́nh Diệm, retained Saigon as its capital.
At the conclusion of the Vietnam War, on April 30, 1975, the city came under the control of the Vietnam People's Army. In the U.S. this event is commonly called the "Fall of Saigon," while in Vietnam it is called the "Liberation of Saigon."
In 1976, upon the establishment of the unified communist Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the city of Saigon (including Cholon), the province of Gia Định and 2 suburban districts of two other nearby provinces were combined to create Hồ Chí Minh City in honour of the late communist leader Hồ Chí Minh. The former name Saigon is still widely used by many Vietnamese, especially in informal contexts. Generally, the term Saigon refers only to the urban districts of Hồ Chí Minh City. The word "Saigon" can also be found on shop signs all over the country, even in Hanoi. In terms like "Saigon Fashion" or "Saigon Style" the word "Saigon" is employed to connote chicness and modernity.
Today, the city's core is still adorned with wide elegant boulevards and historic French colonial buildings. The most prominent structures in the city center are Reunification Hall (Dinh Thống Nhất), City Hall (Uy ban Nhan dan), Municipal Theater (Nha hat Thanh pho), Post Office (Buu dien Thanh Pho), Revolutionary Museum (Bao tang Cach mang), State Bank Office (Ngan hang Nha nuoc), People's Court (Toa an Nhan dan) and Notre Dame Cathedral (Nhà thờ Đức Bà).
Ho Chi Minh City is home to a well-established ethnic Chinese population. Cholon, now known as District 5 and the parts of Districts 6, 10 and 11, serves as its Chinatown.
With a population now exceeding 7 million (registered residents plus migrant workers), Ho Chi Minh City is in need of vast increase in public infrastructure. To meet this need, the city and central governments have embarked on an effort to develop new urban centers. The two most prominent projects are the Thu Thiem city center in District 2 (currently under planning; construction not yet begun) and the Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7 (as part of the Saigon South project where various international schools such as the Japanese school, Australia's Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, the Taiwan and Korea schools are located)."
Phu My Hung New City Center in District 7
How much for a condo there?
i doubt that Saigon will be like that by 2020, may be a portion of it.
My prediction is that once Vietnam get into the WTO, the GDP/capita of HCMC will grow at around 12% compounded for 14 years till 2020. At that pace, GDP/capita of HCMC will be around $9200, which is very close to today's Bangkok's GDP/capita or several years ago.
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You never know. Vietnam is a really fast growing economy and I see it advancing and modernizing really quickly.
a condo in phu my hung cost you around 150 - 200 grands
nice place to live, but a little isolate imo
nice place to live, but a little isolate imo
QUOTE(VNduck @ Oct 14 2006, 11:20 PM)
a condo in phu my hung cost you around 150 - 200 grands
nice place to live, but a little isolate imo
That is about the same price as here in US
Larger or smaller than 1200 sq feet?
QUOTE(VNduck @ Oct 14 2006, 09:20 PM)
a condo in phu my hung cost you around 150 - 200 grands
nice place to live, but a little isolate imo
Wow, that's like 300 times more than the average GDP/capita of VN
U.S GDP/capita is $30K, 300 times of that would be around $9 millions
yeah, but it is nothing consider people paid 120k cash for a benz E 240 lol
that the way it is in Vietnam, and no body live in phu my hung make the same amount of money with the average GPD. THose are luxury area, not for common workers
that the way it is in Vietnam, and no body live in phu my hung make the same amount of money with the average GPD. THose are luxury area, not for common workers
Yeah, those condos are for the upper class Vietnamese only. The common Vietnamese don't even have $60,000 for a Toyota, let alone $150-200K for a house
average GPD of Vietnam includes those of people in rural area. People in Saigon has a lot higher standard of living. 100 ngàn đồng is a lot in rural areas, but nothing in Saigon and Hanoi
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