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Please vote No on Prop.87
Cannot vote does not live in Cali.
Okay, Asia07. 
What other propositions are available in the November election in California?
What other propositions are available in the November election in California?
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 12:45 PM) 
Lời kêu gọi người Việt và người Á Đông ở Hoa Kỳ vote No. 87. Những người làm luật hay đặc ra luật ở Hoa Kỳ thường thường là thành phần nghèo. V́ vậy họ kiếm chuyện hoặc diện cớ để lấy tiền của những hảng dầu hoặc hảng thuốc. ...
You're not kidding?
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QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 05:45 PM)
I am not kidding. Those law makers may be poor or a lot are from Democratic Party. They intentionally target the rich, the oil company and Pharmaceutical Companies.
So you hate poor people.
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The rich gets richer, the poor gets poorer. 
It not right for the poor to use their political power to take money from the rich but rather it is the duty of rich to bring the poor out of poverty.
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 14 2006, 09:40 PM)
It not right for the poor to use their political power to take money from the rich but rather it is the duty of rich to bring the poor out of poverty.
I agree with Nha Le. But look at the lawmakers of California, they are not reasonable. They want to take money from the rich. They want to bring the rich down.
The majority rules. I wonder if it will be the rich or the poor.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 07:11 PM)
I don't say I hate the poor people. But they may do damage to the rich. That is they all want to do, they want to take the rich down. You see this is somewhat like Communism.
You know, many Vietnamese living in the US are very poor, and do not benifit from the law most of the time cuz it was made mainly to serve UPPER MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE. Please be wise when making decision which side you stand for. Obviously you are not White. It's disgustinng to be "Thấy sang bắt quàng làm họ."
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 03:45 PM)
I am not kidding. Those law makers may be poor...
There's NO POOR LAW MAKER in the US - at the state or national level - relatively compares to the population. To be elected, their need money and well-connection to back them up.
I find the view kind of weird. Some people choose party or vote like choosing color - driving by the influence of friends or misleaded information - without their own proper analysis. Like when the stock maket first open in Hong Kong, company listings were put on the board with different colors, and some guys bought shares from companies that have red color - the color of luck for Chinese - without knowing who and what those companies doing.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 09:11 PM)
I don't say I hate the poor people. But they may do damage to the rich. That is they all want to do, they want to take the rich down. You see this is somewhat like Communism.
Really? Then I must tell people to vote Yes on 87 and Yes on that tobacco tax too. Prepare to surrender your wallet!
QUOTE(arun @ Oct 14 2006, 11:45 PM)
Really? Then I must tell people to vote Yes on 87 and Yes on that tobacco tax too. Prepare to surrender your wallet!
Arun, you are not reasonable because you are a Communist.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 15 2006, 12:00 AM)
Arun, you are not reasonable because you are a Communist.
I owned Independent Palace. I lost the Independent Palace of South Saigon to Communist. I love America. America will stand for me. I already wrote my will to give part of my properties to USA.
Wow do you still have any pictures of it?
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Did you left Vietnam in 1975 or went to re-education camp? My father went to the camp for 5 years.
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The American still owes us the Socialist Republic of Vietnam $3.3 billions dollars of reconstruction aides that they promised in Article 21 of that 1973 Paris Peace Treaty agreement, remember that 
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Oct 15 2006, 12:24 AM)
The American still owes us the Socialist Republic of Vietnam $3.3 billions dollars of reconstruction aides that they promised in Article 21 of that 1973 Paris Peace Treaty agreement, remember that
I though the treaty broke when the North army takes over the South.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 10:10 PM)
...I did own the Independent Palace of Saigon and I could have been a high rank officer of South Saigon.
Not to disrepect, but I see kind of odd when someone says owning that building. I thought it's belong to the country-South Vietnam by that time.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 10:18 PM)
I went to the reeducation camp but I escaped it in a few weeks. Later I worked for President Reagan. Tell your father and other South Vietnamese leaders to like President Reagan because I believe he was the one who negotiated with Hanoi to release political prisoners and let them come to America.
Everyone lost something in that war, 3 of our family members died for the South Vietnam, but it's the past. I don't choose side or vote because somebody did me or my family a favor. In Caliifornia, lot of candidates-both Rep and Dem- take advantages from Viet voters by placing anti-commie agenda on the board. They know they will get lot of votes just from that.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 10:10 PM)
vietlove-it is true that these law makers have the power to make up or make propositions before it is voted to become laws.
I agree, that's the way law makers work. It's come from the interest of their their own, their districts that they're prepresented, or from lobby groups. That's why as a voter, people should use their own analysis, not to be influenced by others. lol
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 15 2006, 12:00 AM)
Arun, you are not reasonable because you are a Communist.
I owned Independent Palace. I lost the Independent Palace of South Saigon to Communist. I love America. America will stand for me. I already wrote my will to give part of my properties to USA. Any of these law makers could do like me?
I heard that the Democratss in California are preparing a bill, forcing Republicans to pay a special Republican Tax, about 10 per cent of their income. You might wanna let people know about it.
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LOL so you owned this building, huh?
You know from the moment you spammed for online donations here on AF forum, I smelled BS.
You know from the moment you spammed for online donations here on AF forum, I smelled BS.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 15 2006, 10:56 AM)
LOL so you owned this building, huh?
You know from the moment you spammed for online donations here on AF forum, I smelled BS.
You don't sound happy when you asked if I owned the Independent Palace? But I owned it. haha
I believe asia07 is just a figment of everyone's imagination.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 15 2006, 06:13 PM)
You don't sound happy when you asked if I owned the Independent Palace? But I owned it. haha
Independent Palace is a government building and was the working place of President of South Vietnam. I hope none here stupid enough to send donation to your pagoda. Because it got scams witting all over the place.
QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:44 AM)
vietlove, generally in a Freedom or Capitalist society like the past Government of South Vietnam or everywhere, people own the buildings of the government not the government owns. If you want to find out who owns the White House of America, it is not the government.
Good bye.
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LOL the Nigerian 419 scammers probably say the same. You know this is the Internet right? You can be everyone, be any place. The address for the donation could be your or your family. If you think you could impress me because you knew Nguyen Cao Ky and you "owned" the Independent Palace. ROFL 
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Mấy sư cụ ở Nam Cali này tu hành ǵ mà lái xe Mercedez tới bốn năm chục ngàn đô la luôn. Tu hành ǵ mà nhiều tiền thế, khiếp thật
Hey old guy, didn't you know you last that long, I though Ngo Dinh Diem was dead
"In 1858, French Colonialists opened fire to attack Da Nang starting a war to invade Vietnam. In 1867, the French completely occupied six provinces of the South (Bien Hoa, Gia Dinh, Dinh Tuong, Vinh Long, An Giang, Ha Tien). In 1868, the French Government started to have designed and built at the center of Saigon a palace used as the Governor General’s Palace and named it NORODOM’s Palace. The construction was started on Feb. 23, 1868 and completed in 1871 by the French Governor General in the South of Vietnam named Lagradieøre who placed the first stone. From 1871 to 1887 it was called the Governor General’s Palace of the South Part."
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On Sept. 07, 1954 Norodom Palace was handed over between the French Government representative-General PAUL ELY and Saigon ruling representative-Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem. Ngo Dinh Diem decided to change the name of the Palace to the Palace of Independence. Since then the Palace of Independence became the residence of Ngo Dinh Diem’s family and a place witnessing many political events. Ngo Dinh Diem maintained a family ruling dictatorial regime, he pushed the people into strategic hamlets, carried out the 10/59 law bringing guillotines to all over the South, he did not only cause indignation among the people but also caused disagreement within the Government cabinet of Saigon.
On Feb. 27, 1962, the overthrowing side sent two pilots of Saigon army named Nguyen Van Cu and Pham Phu Quoc driving 2 AD6 bombing planes to collapse the whole main part of the Palace left wing. Because the Palace could not be restored Ngo Dinh Diem had it levelled and a new building built right on the former ground under a design by Architect Ngo Viet Thu, the first Vietnamese who won the Roman Champion.
Ngo Dinh Diem decided to start building the Palace on July 01, 1962. During the time of building the new Palace, Ngo Dinh Diem’s family moved to temporarily live in Gia Long’s Palace (now Ho Chi Minh City Museum). While the construction was under NGO DINH DIEM was killed on Nov. 02, 1963 by the overthrowing side. Therefore on Oct. 31, 1996 inauguration of the Palace was chaired by Nguyen Van Thieu, Chairman of the National Leading Committee. Ngo Dinh Diem was the one who started building the Palace of Independence but he did not live there any day, and the one who lived in this Palace longest was Nguyen Van Thieu (from Oct. 1967 to April 21, 1975).
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"In 1858, French Colonialists opened fire to attack Da Nang starting a war to invade Vietnam. In 1867, the French completely occupied six provinces of the South (Bien Hoa, Gia Dinh, Dinh Tuong, Vinh Long, An Giang, Ha Tien). In 1868, the French Government started to have designed and built at the center of Saigon a palace used as the Governor General’s Palace and named it NORODOM’s Palace. The construction was started on Feb. 23, 1868 and completed in 1871 by the French Governor General in the South of Vietnam named Lagradieøre who placed the first stone. From 1871 to 1887 it was called the Governor General’s Palace of the South Part."
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On Sept. 07, 1954 Norodom Palace was handed over between the French Government representative-General PAUL ELY and Saigon ruling representative-Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem. Ngo Dinh Diem decided to change the name of the Palace to the Palace of Independence. Since then the Palace of Independence became the residence of Ngo Dinh Diem’s family and a place witnessing many political events. Ngo Dinh Diem maintained a family ruling dictatorial regime, he pushed the people into strategic hamlets, carried out the 10/59 law bringing guillotines to all over the South, he did not only cause indignation among the people but also caused disagreement within the Government cabinet of Saigon.
On Feb. 27, 1962, the overthrowing side sent two pilots of Saigon army named Nguyen Van Cu and Pham Phu Quoc driving 2 AD6 bombing planes to collapse the whole main part of the Palace left wing. Because the Palace could not be restored Ngo Dinh Diem had it levelled and a new building built right on the former ground under a design by Architect Ngo Viet Thu, the first Vietnamese who won the Roman Champion.
Ngo Dinh Diem decided to start building the Palace on July 01, 1962. During the time of building the new Palace, Ngo Dinh Diem’s family moved to temporarily live in Gia Long’s Palace (now Ho Chi Minh City Museum). While the construction was under NGO DINH DIEM was killed on Nov. 02, 1963 by the overthrowing side. Therefore on Oct. 31, 1996 inauguration of the Palace was chaired by Nguyen Van Thieu, Chairman of the National Leading Committee. Ngo Dinh Diem was the one who started building the Palace of Independence but he did not live there any day, and the one who lived in this Palace longest was Nguyen Van Thieu (from Oct. 1967 to April 21, 1975).
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QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:11 PM)
They said they built, but it did not mean they owned it. The owner could have been somebody else. You won't believe when I say I was the adopted son of President Diem. I know that was why I never mentioned it.
The owner was the government of South Vietnam, the Republic of Vietnam.
If you tell me you're the reincarnated soul of Ngo Dinh Diem I would believe you.
And why would you hang out with one of your fathers killers Nguyen Cao Ky. Never seen such a troll like you and you sux at history too.
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QUOTE(asia07 @ Oct 14 2006, 12:45 PM)
Lời kêu gọi người Việt và người Á Đông ở Hoa Kỳ vote No. 87. Những người làm luật hay đặc ra luật ở Hoa Kỳ thường thường là thành phần nghèo. V́ vậy họ kiếm chuyện hoặc diện cớ để lấy tiền của những hảng dầu hoặc hảng thuốc. Những hảng này mổi năm đă đóng thuế cho Hoa Kỳ rất là cao. Những hăng dầu này là do người Mỹ và có cả người Việt và Á Đông làm chủ chứ không phải là người Trung Đông làm chủ. Họ tạo nhiều công ăn việc làm cho đủ khấp các thành phần trong xă hội. Kêu gọi người Việt và người Á Đông hăy thương và kêu gọi và ủng hộ họ và Vote No 87. Nước Mỹ là nước công bằng pháp trị. Và chúng ta không chằp nhận và không nên ủng hộ những kẻ lợi dụng luật pháp để lấy tài sản của kẻ khác v́ chính những người này chưa chắc đă đóng góp ǵ nhiều so với những ông chủ của hăng dầu này. Chính những hăng dầu này xưa nay đă làm giàu cho nước Mỹ. Xin người Việt và người Á Đông ủng hộ chúng tôi và Vote No 87.
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