i don't know much about the first question, but batanguenos and cavitenos, are all technically tagalogs, and speak the same language except for they have their own manner i guess. people from bulacan, laguna, rizal, and quezon as well speak it.

i mean Tagalog is the language from which the Filipino language is based but it is not considered the same language since many other Filipino words were incorperated by lingusits who designed the new national language.... im wondering if the Tagalog tribes even bother to speak their own language anymore, or if they speak Filipino.....

do you know what im saying?

no offense but you sound like you don't know the culture at all personally, am i right. because it seems like you like and very enthusisastically interested to read and learn about the culture but you dont know the present situation about our culture. i suggest that you go to the phils one day mate and learn about your culture. and meet all these hot chics. ive beenout for almost 9 years now but i've been waqtching and hearing from vacationsit friend that ton of hot chics are floating around the islands, i mean gorgeous chics, everybody i mean everby young buck i talked to told me the same. but anyway there are no actual "wild" or still traditional tagalog speaking tribes except maybe the negritos in bulacan, but even them are being modernized. to me tagalog is filipino, and however much spanish had changed it it is the same beuatiful language.

Hmm...that's quite intrsting. I actually never knew that. I've been to Leyte a number of times, and it's a nice place. There's barely any pollution unlike in Manila. The ppl are frendly and they also speak 'Waray', which by the way sounds really similar to bicol (?) I think. The American General McArthur landed there as well, when he said 'I shall return". Anyway, I'm not actually frm Leyte, more like Samar. Here's a little history of it:

The Jesuit missionaries founded Samar in 1596. They introduced the Roman Catholic faith to the people of Samar. When the Jesuits left Samar in 1768, the Spanish Franciscans took over the administration.

The former names given to Samar were Zamal, Ibabao, Achan and Tandaya. Legend stated that when the Spaniards first set foot in Homonhon, they met a wounded native from whom they asked the name of the place. The wounded man did not understand Spanish. He thought they were asking what happened to him and he replied samad meaning wound in the local dialect. So, the navigators adopted the name for the island with a slight alteration of the last letter, from Samad to Samar.

Here's some information about the 'Waray' dialect:

WARAY WARAY

Carl Rubino


Language Name: Waráy-Waráy (or Waráy). Waray Waray is the common name of the language, although many speakers also refer to it as Bisaya or Binisaya, not distinguishing it from the dozens of other Visayan languages and dialects. The toponyms Samar-Leyte and Lineyte-Samarnon have also been used, reflecting the geographic location of the language. When referring to the dialects of the language, the terms Samarnon (Samareño) and Leytehanon are also employed.


Location: Waray is the native language of the people from the islands of Samar, Biliran, and Northeast Leyte, Philippines.


Family: Central Bisayan branch of the Bisayan subgroup of the Central Philippine subgroup of the Philippine group of the Western Malayo-Polynesian branch of the Malayo-Polynesian subfamily of the Austronesian language family.


Related Languages: Waray Waray is most closely related to the Central Visayan languages: Sorsogon bikol, hiligaynon, and Romblomanon. Other closely related Visayan languages include Tausug, cebuano, Banton, Aklanon, Kinaray-a, and Kuyonon.


Dialects: There are several dialects of Waray Waray, often referred to by their place name. The dialects of Northern Samar are the most conservative, maintaining [s] where other dialects have innovated [h]. Vowel-length in the verb prefix paradigm (table shown in morphology) for the Northern Samar dialect is absent except in the active potentive form náka-. Zorc (1975) identifies the following three major dialects: Samar-Leyte spoken in Central Samar and the northern half of Leyte, Waray spoken in southern and eastern Samar, and the Northern Samar dialect.


Number of speakers: 3 million.


Origin and History: The Westerners’ first contact with Waray peoples was on March 31, 1521, when Magellan found the Leyte gateway. Very little is known about pre-Hispanic Waray history, but linguistic, ethnographic, and archeological evidence help to classify the Warays as the easternmost extension of the Visayan peoples (see CEBUANO, HILIGAYNON), a relatively homogeneous group inhabiting the central Philippine Islands named after the great Sumatran empire of Sri Vijaya.

Warays today are predominantly Roman Catholic, many practicing with a blend of pre-Hispanic animistic elements. They are the most culturally conservative of the Visayans.

Contact with other Languages

Spanish loans include the days of the week and months of the year, and: telepono ‘telephone,’ sugal ‘play cards, gamble,’ bintanà ‘window,’ padí ‘godfather,’ tíyu ‘uncle,’ pára ‘for,’ kusinà ‘kitchen,’ basu ‘glass,’ and purtáhan ‘door.’ Spanish is no longer used in Waray communities.

English, as the language of education, business, and the government, is the primary source of new words, i.e. aysbaks ‘icebox,’ dyip ‘jeep,’ kompyuter ‘computer,’ and haiskul ‘high school.’ Most Waray Waray speakers are proficient in tagalog, the national language of the Philippines, and may borrow Tagalog words and expressions in their speech.


Common Words


man: lalaki woman: babáyi

animal: hayop tree: káhoy

water: tubig sun: adlaw

three: tuló fish: isdà

long: halabà good: maópay

yes: oo no: dirí

big: dakò small: gutì

bird: támsi dog: ayam

town: bungto house: baláy

^ cool thanks! can u tell me a little about jesuit...... who are they, they are spanish christian missionaries? i read that the jesuit were the most destructive in wanting to erase everything non-christian, meaning most things native deemed pegan and savage and replace it with the holy christian etc... is that true?

anyways i am now interested in your comments about this following question:

Tagalog and English are clearly different in many ways. one thing that i wonder about is the spelling of words such as when you presented the example of ‘high school’ in English becomes haiskul... which is totally incorrect spelling... i was wondering if Filipinos have a issue with spelling. I mean are they taught to spell English words with the Tagalog alphabet and pronouncation? it seems that Tagalog and English contradict each other. does that cause any trouble?

i read that learning tagalog/spanish is alot less contradicting than learning tagalog/english is.

filipino, which is modernized tagalog, spells things as it sounds. it spells some words sometimes how it would in english in filipino dialogue, but to be in an actually filipino dialogue it spells it in a dffrent way to make it more "filipino", especially in traditional filipino phoenetics letters c,f,j,q,v,x,z does not appear other than in spanish or borrowed words. but even so some english words are of spelling bristish way, but only on few words. flips also uses castillian spanish, which is exactly like regular spanish but slightly different. it;s like the reason why j@p uses katakana to spell words rather than using hiragana. or like why should we spell british or canadien in a proper us dialogue.

SO DO FILIPINOS KNOW HOW TO SPELL IN TO WAYS? SKUL AND SCHOOL?

SO FILIPINOS HAVE TO LEARN TWO OF EVERYTHING?

SO PILIPINO HAP TO LEERN TU OP EPRYTING?

Oh lord that sounded like my grandma!!!

lol mine too

Before i will answer this quote,

My father's home province is in bikol, My mother's home province is in bikol in Sorsogon but the dialect is quite different.

My mother's bikol dialect had more visayan influence than bikol.

My ethnicity is Filipino, Chinese, Spanish , Malay.

My maternal grandparents were 25% Spaniards .


For the second answer, Depending on the authority , there were different ways to say School in Filipino.

ISKUL- from the English word, widely used by the present generation.
Paaralan- Tagalog word.
Escuela / Eskuwela - Spanish and Filipinized Spelling.
All these words are widely accepted.

well said mam.

Hmmm my ethnicity is 99.99% malay filipino with .01 chinese I think due to my great granfather.

Hmm my mom is from the Visayas while my dad is from Manila. But I was born in Manila so what would that make me?

Bicolano!!!

can someone explain why some people seperate malay and filipino.
example,
"I'm FILIPINO and MALAY". Do some filipinos believe Filipinos as some Seperate "RACE" like mongoloid (sinoid) negroid, caucasion???
Just curious, no hate or anything. FAr as I know, the filipinos are MAlays Living on the Philippine Islands hence they are called filipino. Malays of indonesia are called Indonesian Bcuz their islands are called indonesia.
I could be wrong, just my opinion hehehe

Back to the topic,

I'm ( malay)filipino, and chinese. We have no record of Spanish descendents in our family. We do have Aquino as our surname (portuguese name) due to the claverias decree that made alll christianized filipinos change their pagan names to spanish and european last names.

Yep, there is no such thing as filipino ethnicity, only filipino citizen.

thought so hehehe thanks hut

What kind of Filipino am i? why? how many kinds of Filipino are there? are we talking meztisos here? like half-this and half-that? or I am half Filipino, Half chinese and half spanish? ahahaha

or am i the kind of Filipino who will stay loyal to the Philippines no matter my citizenship? or am i the kind of Filipino who will jump the ship (the ship being our country) once it started sinking real fast? it is sinking now...

Your making me sad

Uy andyan ka pala... wag naman! Pinoys are known for laughing in the face of adversity right? tayo pa!

Born and raised in Angeles City, Pampanga, in other words i'm "Kapampangan"!

HutFlip? there IS such a thing as Filipino ethnicity, Tagalogs are different from Cebuanos and Kapampangans, read up on your history again, before the spaniards colonized these islands there was no such thing as "Filipinos". You must have been dozing off during your history classes, hehehe. and take note, The so-called dialects of the Philippines have been labeled differently now, they are Languages now, not just dialects which were believed to have been an offshoot of tagalog when in fact they were not.

very true. Totsally different languages with sub-groups. As far as ethnicity, I believe there are, I jsut miss represeted my words on that last reply to hut. I meant to say , filipinos are not a seperate race....hehehe

See, this is why i get confused.

Seriously are you guys happy about our country's name? Philippines? Islands of King Philip, late king of Spain? That's where i get that there is no such thing as filipino ethnicity. We should rename it as our own, we could ourselves, mutant evolution! Land of the beginning of the start! j/k

try to create another thread for that!

tagalog is an ethnolingustic group within the malay ethnicity.
kapampangan is an ethnolingustic group within the malay ethnicity. etc etc

so wat do ya thing?

welcome and happy posting!

Most Kapangpangan have Spaniard, Chinese and American mixed

basta okay na na Kapampangan!....

Even Bikolanos

We only have spanish sounding surnames... pero proud ako! Nagueño! (coming from Naga City)! A basta bikolano ako!

So are you like somehow related to the former president? i also read that all the aquino's in the philippines originated from one clan or something like that

im confuzed.....

u know how there is a jennifer lopez and there is a george lopez.... they are not related right?

but lopez is a common surname... so how do people in the americas trace their geneology?

anyways, do the spanish surname cause confusion for people in the philippines trying to discover their ancestors? are there alot of common names like taht used by other peoples who are not yoru relatives?

good question, i'm as confused as you are, but almost all the aquino's i run into claims to have some ties w/ the late ninoy aquino

Breakdancer Filipino

ako man taga "bikol" hehehe. i have a chinese blood coz of my family name. but i dont want to be called as chinese, only 25%, 75% filipino so i am a filipino!!!!

Your not even filipino .

all i know is i'm really a manileña but my elders said that i have a drop of spanish blood.

Whats that?

a filipino with a spanish blood....

Oh okay, thats cool.

i've never been sure of that, it's just that my surname is not common here in pi that's why they are able to tell me that, but i guess it's true because i can see some spanish books in our house at bulacan.

spanish blood is sooooo coool!!!

thanks....

I don't think he meant it as an compliment.

Hi everyone,

What a weird thread... So my mom is from Abra de Ilog, Occ. Mindoro... My dad is from Lubang-Looc Island, Occ. Mindoro... but I was born in Quezon City...

What kind of pilipino am I?

As for the last few posts... having Spanish blood ain't so wonderful... People keep thinking I'm Mexican...

I don't have any spanish blood. But some people still mitsake me for hispanic due to my spanish name. But most people can tell Im filipino.

I could only wish people thought I was pilipino...

There was this one time a group of friends of mine (all pilipino) met up with another group of people (all pilipino as well)... but of course, I, and only I, was greeted with an "Hola!"... My friends were crackin' up...

Ouch that must suck. I remember when I used to work in an concession stand in an Movie theatre some hispanic lady came up to me and started to order her food in spanish.

This is funny... we should start a new thread about being mistaken for another culture...

Here's another thing that keeps the myth that my family is Mexican... My dad is tri-lingual... (primary) Tagalog, (secondary) English, (elementry level) Spanish (his grandfather, my great grandfather, was Spanish and spoke only Spanish)...

When we head to the flea markets and such, if someone assumes he is Mexican and speaks to him in Spanish... he will converse in Spanish as well

LOL, I only know an few spanish words. Like Tsinelas or Yo non hablo espanol.

Yes you're a drunk pussy from Cebu

i'm from Rizal.
my relatives are from bulacan and Pampanga.
most people say I look Chinese/Korean/Japanese but not Filipino (poor me!)