Manchus are known to be Korean tribe but inside China, this fact is ignored and it is kind of very serious matter to metion about their origin and even Manchu themsleves keep silent without support or protest....

1. I wonder why reffering to minorities' origin is can be so sensitive issue in China.

2. Why Manchu keep silent about their origin. - do they believe they are totally different blood from Korean or Mongolian : Do they feel shameful to be descentands of Korean ancestors : do they think it is no more important to know or value who are they and where they are come from ; then do they have their own history of pre-Jin Dynasty?

Don't be serious or get upset. I just want to hear you guys' opinion on your identity or something like that to show what Manchu is.

... I don't even know where to begin. *sigh*

not this stupid $hit again... sigh

another return of a banned member

I am totally new member here and this is my first post.

Strange strang !!! this can be a problem question that I can be banned? ....

Not that I haven't posted this to bother other members for fun.
If you feel uncomfortable about this just ignore but hope there would be people to kindly put their opinion.

I am totally new member here and this is my first post.

Strange strang !!! this can be a problem question that I can be banned? ....

Not that I haven't posted this to bother other members for fun.
If you feel uncomfortable about this just ignore but hope there would be people to kindly put their opinion.

nice double post noob

Your trolling sucks, you don't even have any potential.

In what way were/are the Manchus Korean? They speak a different language, practice a different culture, have a different identity and had a different history. Are Spanish and Italians the same going by your logic? Was Shakespeare a German? Was Leonardo a Brazilian?

Good thing we banned those fu-kers from entering our excavation sites.

Hmm I really don't understand you guys' reaction. For me this is very simple thing. I don't know why you are so serious about this. You can just answer Yes or No.

If it is not a decent question to ask about things of any other minorities in modern China, I think i know why it sould be sensitive matter but hard to understand why they get furious without any reasonable comment.

If i offended you with this kind of question, I am really sorry..... but still don't know what aspects of my question has caused problem.....

Again I ask in what way were the Manchus Korean? They speak a different language, practice a different culture, have a different identity and had a different history. Are Spanish and Italians the same going by your logic? Was Shakespeare a German? Was Leonardo a Brazilian?

I'm a Manchu myself, and we're in every way different from Kimchi-feds

It's amazing how the noob (TROLL) just simply ignored your post and started crying out how "offended/defensive/angry/hateful" the Chinese members in here are.

Manju's were nomadic so they are closer to Mongolia

Manchus were not fully nomadic like the mongols, they were hunter/gatherer and fishemens but they were closer to Mongols then to Koreans in language and culture, but their closest relatives are other tungus peoples in siberia and modern day russia.

here are some pics of their northern relatives.

northern tungusics

Only that mentally retarded troll would actually spam ids and pretend to be innocent....

"i am new here and this is my first thread"

gimme a break willya?

now i can see why manchus would dislike koreans so much

Manchus are closest to Evenks, Oroqen, Daur, Nanai, Hezhen, and other Siberian Tungus.

theres alot of manchu chinese , lots of them bloodline descending from the qing dynasty.

you people need to get over it , manchus have their own identity. so fu-k off with your "manchus are close to ...(fill in the blank)"

take that bull $hit somewhere else

no wonder manchus dislike koreans so much. koreans want to claim manchu bloodline so they can claim manchuria

theres no such thing as manchuria , that was a puppet state created by japan during ww2

I just had to share this with everyone. From a troll in Mongolian chat, with love.

Manchus had their own distinct look, but from marrying Han people, they lost their language and customs. The royal family of Manchurians are anything but pure, but the Manchurian commoners still have most of their ancestors' original looks. But what that guy said... ROFL

lol .... sad

the dumb op isnt even korean so quit judging and jumping to conclusions.

^Nobody said he was definitely Korean, why are you so defensive? A troll is a troll.

some of the responses are also troll like and against koreans so what difference does it make.

if anything i bet he's chinese.

^before: "the dumb op isnt even korean so quit judging and jumping to conclusions."

after: "some of the responses are also troll like and against koreans so what difference does it make.

if anything i bet he's chinese."

take your own advice

i think you know what he is saying but you are not willing to admit it.

sorry, i get irritated in this forum.

anyways, the thread starter is a moron, we'll just leave it at that

agreed , this thread should be closed

I believed somebody already mentioned it in here but aren't the closest relatives to the Manchus Nanai or Oroqen? From what I understand the Nanai language is somewhat mutually intelligible with the Manchu language.

Thank you Ming.

Now I can tell my Eskimo and Northern Indian friends about their roots!

But...he looks as Chinese as they can get IMO. I can just tell. >.<

oh Manju how sad that u,re ....

高丽棒子=万年属国

strong words

How come Kortrolls on this site always cry foul when ppl say things like "Koreans r similar to Chinese"? Then they go waddling around saying "Machus are very similar to us... in fact they're basically Korean"

-_-;;;

What's really stupid is that everytime posts up an "offensive" thread in K-chat, the members there always eventually drag the Chinese into it, taking the opportunity to insult them without even the slightest evidence that the thread starter's Chinese. Happened tons of times before. But when some obvious K-troll comes in here, the Korean members are all like, "NOOOO, he CAN'T be Korean, probably some CHINESE" and then they take the opportunity to insult us again. Simpletons.

just wondering, out of the chinese, japanese, and korean forums, which gets the most troll threads?

Do not just look at this way !!!

definately chinese.

Not sure about the number of THREADS, but definitely the greatest number of posters with obvious trolling-tendencies...whether they exhibit them blatantly (ones that create blatantly racist threads and get banned on the spot) or more subtly (i.e. Dingdingding, some of those Mongolian posters, etc.).

most chinese trolls here think china is superior in every way, insulting koreans and japanese of being inferior. whats funny is that most koreans and japanese respond in a civilized manner but most chinese trolls just plain out simply insult others. not saying to all but thats what i see in most chinese trolls in other threads.

You'd be surprised. I have even had my fair share of insults thrown at me by Korean posters who thought I was a troll way back when I first joined AF. IN MY OWN CHINESE CHAT too.

Those were obviously overly sensitive and defensive jerks.

^My theory is that they lack the testicular fortitude in real life, hence must have a source of let out on the interweb.

Agreed, agreed. Although that isn't limited to losers pre-occupied with antagonizing other ethnicities over the net. There are quite a few posters who find joy in criticizing other members' pics in the pic forum, or pretending that they're women-experts who get plenty in real life but in reality wouldn't get by anything except a ten-foot pole.

And I realize I was posting in a rather hasty manner in response to donthateonboca's post back there.



That doesn't even make sense. Those Chinese trolls are TROLLS like you've said, so of course they're going to "just plain out simply insult others." Korean/Japanese trolls do the EXACT same thing. Are you saying that there aren't any Chinese posters who don't respond in a civilized manner to Korean/Japanese trolls as well? Stupid.