If we were agreeing with the communist system, then your accusations would've been right. In reality, none of us did. We were talking about the best way to change the North Korean system, and that threatening them hasn't helped at all. From what I saw on tv of the North Korean civilians, I found them to be good people who are under the wrong regime. There are even NKs who show signs of disagreeing with building nukes. Unfortunately, they lost to the NK hardliners who felt threatened by Bush. Hopefully, it's not too late to use the diplomatic approach with them. I think you'll change your mind on Bush when the next administration points out his failures.

I don't like to be called a communist, knowing what my relatives went through during the Korean War. My family on my dad's side lived in NK at that time, and they had to escape because people found out that my grandfather was anti-communist. I'm not the only one. All the Koreans in this forum have relatives who suffered in the Korean War. It's unfair to call us communists just because we think differently from you.

By the way, I don't think the Americans would've been hated if they sent weapons, since it was Kim Ilsung who started the war.

yea i found it fu-king ridiculous that he called us communist, or left-wing for our opinions.

@ Cha
Yes, I’m sure the NK people are fine people, and after their minds have been cleared of the constant stream of propaganda they’ve been fed for so many years I’m sure they’ll make great contributions to a unified Korea.
Threats don’t work but actions do. I asked a SSP supporter for an example of how it has benefited SK, I don’t recall receiving a reply on that point. If one is for a certain kind of policy they should be able to point out what it has accomplished not just say “you ruined our policy with your stupid speech!” If one speech by a foreign leader can “break” a policy that was used for years it obviously wasn’t a strong policy to begin with.
The North has used the excuse of being “afraid” of Bush to build weapons. I don’t buy it. They were developing nukes before he was even running for president. How can one account for that? They’re afraid we’re going to attack? We’re not talking enough? We’ve been negotiating with them for several years now and have offered them what I consider to be too much. They refused several very generous offers and left the talks. They have used the talks as a smoke screen to feign that they’re interested in a nuclear free K peninsula but they’re the only ones on the peninsula with nukes. All the while they used that time to develop nuclear weapons.
Also, I mentioned that Bush isn’t my favorite President, meaning I disagree with him on many things.

@ whoever else is reading
Kim Dae-jung-----“Under the Sunshine Policy, was North Korea engaged in nuclear development? With the U.S. refusing to even talk while bullying North Korea, isn’t nuclear development the only option left (to North Korea) to ensure its survival.” Now that’s what Kim Dae-jung said. Most can see that he’s a leftist/communist sympathizer if there ever was one. Now let’s see how that compares to comments made on the thread.
“If The US and his allies had tried harder to engage the N Koreans in dialogue and lift some of the sanctions in place, KJI would not have been so desperate.”
“bush is a stupid prick that broke the sunshine policy.”
“bush stop aiding north korea, and in response north korea said, if you act like this, we have arm missles and we'll use it.”
“They used economics to make China a more "freer" country, but fuked up on Nk. With that policy, it has worked with China.”
etc etc… there was quite a bit more like that.
Matches up pretty nicely doesn’t it? I could list what many Uri Party pols said that matches up with posts on the thread as well.
Bearing all of this in mind I’d say assuming people, who echoed comments made by communist sympathizers and leftists, are most likely on the left side of the political spectrum is fair.
As for communists how about “We don't need your goddamn democracy.”

As I said before it’s insane to say it’s even partially the US’s fault NK built and tested nukes. Unfortunately, that’s what virtually everyone said on the thread. A Korean columnist said this line of thought is “very stupid”. Another said that Roh and Uri need to “behave like adults”. It’s really almost the same thing- stupid/insane/behave like adults/silly except I’m white and they’re Asian.
People also kept mentioning Bush’s “Axis of Evil” speech which I found kind of funny actually. Just to quote the JoongAng Ilbo opinion piece once again “Why can't those politicians call an evil an evil?”

Also, I think people have confused the terms “racist” and “bigoted”. I’m not either btw, again at least towards East Asians.

dudes, seriously, stop responding to this dumb brainwashed american cracker.
he is so obviously and ridiculously misinformed and unintelligent that I've just stopped reading his $hit and did not bother. Mods should close this thread as well.

Unfortunately, many don't want to accept that.


Don't call me a cracker, whore.

no offense, morgan, but do you know who i truly feel is a whore?

your (supposed) korean b!tch.

very cute using "supposed". Why not call me an asiaphile (however it's spelled) while you're at it?
And I do take offense because she certainly is not a whore or b!tch.

morgan you strarted this, your thread title was racist and angered many people on this forum.. you brought this on yourself. frankly, you should be reported for that.

I never used any racial slurs.

so?

you classified all koreans as silly and insane.

doesnt matter if you didnt use a racial slur or not, stop trying to justify it.

well couple years ago bush clearly said that America will not tolerate North Korea developing nukes. well they aint doing $hit now, so who do you blame, that stpid monkey that was re elected twice. because of him, america is a joke now. has any country ever made fun of they're president like that? stop thinkin your military is invincible becuase the weak armed viet cong, defeated them, your politicians are made of dumb crackers accepting 80 billions of dollars every month for the war in iraq, and no progress is being done, while 2000 toops died so far.

Thats right Morgan - stop being an @$$hole

*sigh* we elected him once and re-elected him once. He's not my fav pres I already said. Without the aid sent by SK, Japan the US and certainly China NK wouldn't have had the resources to make the bomb. The UN enacted sanctions against NK, if they carry out another test there will probably be more sanctions.
We didn't fight in Vietnam how we fought in other wars, no mass bombing, no real destruction of their infrastructure/cities. Not saying we would have been able to finish NV or Viet Cong but whatever.
it's not $80 billion a month, not even close. That'd be almost a trillion $ every year.
And it's more than 2000 now. But it should be noted that we lost thousands of men taking single islands from the Japanese. War causes death and destruction, that sucks but it ain't new.