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Jc2
The only swords from the Philippines that I know are the kampilan and the kris which are both of Muslim Filipino (Moro) origin. Can anyone show me pictures of other Filipino swords/weapons? Preferably weapons from Luzon
TakTAk-Boy
Visayan warriors also weilded kampilan and kriss untill the spanish conquest then they evoled into the "Pinute" which has spanish influence

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Eka_miminum_sumawa_kang_susuka
there's a pre-hispanic guns and cannons, but I don't have pictures T_T
martin_nuke
Homemade Filipino Gun

Filipinos fighting the United States Army sometimes resorted to making their own firearms.

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http://americanhistory.si.edu/militaryhist...ject.asp?ID=639
kunomchu
ouch i wouldn't wanna be hacked by one of those...
Suijen
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Rattan sticks.
Jc2
Nice swords! I didn't know Filipino swords had sheath on them

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Homemade Filipino Gun

Filipinos fighting the United States Army sometimes resorted to making their own firearms.



http://americanhistory.si.edu/militaryhist...ject.asp?ID=639


I think this is my favorite weapon posted here. It really looks like its Filipino made. What is it made of?
RL33
QUOTE(Suijen @ Oct 18 2006, 12:41 AM) *



Rattan sticks.


LOL those are faily recent dude , like 30 years. The old guys always trained with swords back then.
flipcombatmedic
even better was paltik--homemade pistols/revolvers during martial law.
jenny_dgd04
machete and sickle I think...
Sirikittong
the kriss' look really scary. Brutal way to die...imho...
ham_let
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they're all here, man!

XD!
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE(jenny_dgd04 @ Oct 18 2006, 11:12 AM) *

machete and sickle I think...

you should mail that idea to the NPA
Sonofvisayas
i tried to buy a kriss from a martial arts school where they teach kali, i was willing to pay 250$ for it, but the guy wouldnt sell it to me cos im not a brown or black belt in FMA and thought i might hurt myself embarassedlaugh.gif
Didnt he know i didnt need any belts, im a filipino its in my blood how to use these staff laugh.gif
Sirikittong
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Oct 18 2006, 02:36 PM) *

i tried to buy a kriss from a martial arts school where they teach kali, i was willing to pay 250$ for it, but the guy wouldnt sell it to me cos im not a brown or black belt in FMA and thought i might hurt myself embarassedlaugh.gif
Didnt he know i didnt need any belts, im a filipino its in my blood how to use these staff laugh.gif


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I like your thinking bro! Your Filipino blood must crave the kriss/sundang eh? I bet it fits pefectly in your hand, eh?

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If you are interested in other south east asian swords bro, try the check out the Thai dha--it fits perfect in the hand as well. Very similar to the light sundang, but its lighter and can carry 2 at a time.

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Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Oct 18 2006, 02:47 PM) *

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I like your thinking bro! Your Filipino blood must crave the kriss/sundang eh? I bet it fits pefectly in your hand, eh?

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If you are interested in other south east asian swords bro, try the check out the Thai dha--it fits perfect in the hand as well. Very similar to the light sundang, but its lighter and can carry 2 at a time.

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Wow they look nice but look different from native filipino blades..I like the first one with the carvings on the handle, looks expensive too embarassedlaugh.gif
Sirikittong
Hahahaha. Yaa it looks similar, but different in a way.

Ive held my cousins' kriss before. Its very heavy---one can cleave a man's head easily with one stroke--with a kriss

With a thai ddha, its more a slashing blade---meant to dismember the enemy quickly.

The filipino kriss' are meant for a one-hit-kill. Looks really scary...specially the kriss that have jagged edges.....yaa...really scary...
santoloco
QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Oct 18 2006, 02:47 PM) *

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I like your thinking bro! Your Filipino blood must crave the kriss/sundang eh? I bet it fits pefectly in your hand, eh?

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If you are interested in other south east asian swords bro, try the check out the Thai dha--it fits perfect in the hand as well. Very similar to the light sundang, but its lighter and can carry 2 at a time.

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these are the ones they use on krabi krabong!! its a beautiful martial art. beerchug.gif
RL33
QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Oct 18 2006, 11:47 AM) *

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I like your thinking bro! Your Filipino blood must crave the kriss/sundang eh? I bet it fits pefectly in your hand, eh?

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If you are interested in other south east asian swords bro, try the check out the Thai dha--it fits perfect in the hand as well. Very similar to the light sundang, but its lighter and can carry 2 at a time.

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They lok very much like Samurai words ,iM guessing thier two handed weapons?? I dont like the unprotected hilt though they could really slice off your fingers haah.
Eka_miminum_sumawa_kang_susuka
I hit?

hmm try panday's sword icon_smile.gif
its deadly and can be concealed easily and it can be used a flaring device or lighting the basketball court disco
even comes with its own sounds lols
martin_nuke
This Filipino Sub Machinegun has a firepower of 800-850 rounds enough to cut you in half.

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http://www.timawa.net/defense/smallarms/floromk9.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floro_MK-9
vynncute
QUOTE(Jc2 @ Oct 17 2006, 05:55 PM) *

The only swords from the Philippines that I know are the kampilan and the kris which are both of Muslim Filipino (Moro) origin. Can anyone show me pictures of other Filipino swords/weapons? Preferably weapons from Luzon


correction amigo. even Lapu-Lapu used the Kampilan to slay Magellan, I believe the Kampilan Originated in Mindanao, noon wala pang Muslim ay naghahari ang mga Lumads ng Mindanao, so Kampilan Originated from the Lumads. I know it bcoz i am a Lumad, Matigsalug Tribe of Sinuda, Kitaotao Bukidnon

un lang! icon_smile.gif
vynncute
QUOTE(ham_let @ Oct 18 2006, 10:29 AM) *

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they're all here, man!

XD!


here's more of them
kampilan
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talibong
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kris
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balisong
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agentslayer
Very nice, guys. Keep the pictures coming!
Jc2
QUOTE(vynncute @ Nov 10 2006, 03:07 AM) *

here's more of them
kampilan
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talibong
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kris
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balisong
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I heard the kapilan was used by Lapulapu's forces against Magellan and his men. The basilong looks more like a tool than a weapon. It reminds me of that scissors used to cut grass
agentslayer
Are itaks considered Filipino or does it from from Hispano-America?
vynncute
QUOTE(agentslayer @ Nov 10 2006, 03:18 PM) *

Are itaks considered Filipino or does it from from Hispano-America?

It is 100% Pinoy! the Itak is a Tagalog Word, in the Visayas and Mindanao, Itak is called Sundang.

Different Provinces have their own unique design.


vynncute
QUOTE(Jc2 @ Nov 10 2006, 10:13 AM) *

I heard the kapilan was used by Lapulapu's forces against Magellan and his men. The basilong looks more like a tool than a weapon. It reminds me of that scissors used to cut grass


It looks like a tool but as deadly as a weapon amigo!

try this videos and you will see how deadly a balisong is.

knife fighting with the PNP Special Action Forces

Knife Fighting with PNP Special Action Forces 2
vynncute
Indian pana kakanakana, kapag kumana, kakano kano

bwahahahahaha!
Jc2
Here's the picture I'm talking about where Lapulapu uses a kampilan to kill off Magellan

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vynncute
nice pix! the Sugbuanon Champion Dodong Lapu-Lapu

Gituli niya si Magellan (He circumcised Magellan) with an overgrown can opener commonly known as "Kampilan" Har har har har! laugh.gif
Jc2
QUOTE(vynncute @ Nov 12 2006, 08:54 PM) *

It looks like a tool but as deadly as a weapon amigo!

try this videos and you will see how deadly a balisong is.

knife fighting with the PNP Special Action Forces

Knife Fighting with PNP Special Action Forces 2


Nice videos. How come I never heard of that when I was in Philippines as a kid? Was this practiced in Luzon also? Or just in Visayas/Mindanao? Do you have to be part of the army to learn this martial arts?
Ilonggo
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correction amigo. even Lapu-Lapu used the Kampilan to slay Magellan, I believe the Kampilan Originated in Mindanao, noon wala pang Muslim ay naghahari ang mga Lumads ng Mindanao, so Kampilan Originated from the Lumads. I know it bcoz i am a Lumad, Matigsalug Tribe of Sinuda, Kitaotao Bukidnon


pare, ang mga tao that we know now as Moro are still indegenous to mindanao. the tausugs, samal, yakan, badjaus, jama mapun, maguidanaon, iranun, and maranaos have been living in mindanao before islam was introduced, much like your people and other lumads. it's just that those tribes i mentioned above (and some others) converted into islam in the 1300's, not unlike the visayans and luzon converted to catolicism from 1400's on up. but back to the lumads, they stayed true to form, and keeping their heritage to this day.

the weapons that we have are so varied, that it might as well used to represent each tribe. we all know that we are splintered as a nation, not as cohesive as the other SEA countries. actually if it wasn't for the spaniards, i would assume that we might as well consider each island as a nation. on the downside, this was the same tactic that became our downfall. spaniards saw this and employed what is known as divide and conquer.

back to the weapons:
as i've mentioned earlier, these weapons were our identity back in the days. we don't have to look far on this. all we have to do is look towards our moro brothers. to this very day, the krises are still being used, and going to sulu, the barungs still represents the tausugs. the visayans of old has some of the most beautiful hilt carvings i've ever seen. the warays has these curved swords known as garab.

outside of the philippines, which i find it very odd, our sariling martial arts (arnis, eskrima), is being sought out by the world's elite armed forces due to its simplicity, effectiveness, and ferocity. u don't see them take karate or ta-e kwon do, lol. these martial arts, arnis, are mostly based on bladed weapons. yes, we all know the stick is used, but if i remove that stick in your hand and replace it with a talibong, guess what? do you see what i mean? some of these blades are even specifically made for a certain style of arnis. oh, and btw, did you know that there are dozens different style of arnis?





vynncute
QUOTE(Jc2 @ Nov 16 2006, 07:44 AM) *

Nice videos. How come I never heard of that when I was in Philippines as a kid? Was this practiced in Luzon also? Or just in Visayas/Mindanao? Do you have to be part of the army to learn this martial arts?


Every Province have their own style and specializations.

most famous for balisong is Batangas,

halos lahat ata ng province meron, sa Bicol meron din stick fighting pero ung isang stick maliit yung isa mahaba, siguro the small stick represents a knife or dagger while the longer one represents a bolo.

about your question
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Do you have to be part of the army to learn this martial arts?
In College arnis is being taught, and i still remember when i was in high school meron din sa P.E class.
Siguro yung mga nag aral dito sa pinas matatandaan pa nila yung "single sinawali" at "double sinawali".
vynncute
QUOTE(Ilonggo @ Nov 16 2006, 07:56 AM) *


the weapons that we have are so varied, that it might as well used to represent each tribe. we all know that we are splintered as a nation, not as cohesive as the other SEA countries. actually if it wasn't for the spaniards, i would assume that we might as well consider each island as a nation. on the downside, this was the same tactic that became our downfall. spaniards saw this and employed what is known as divide and conquer.


DEVIDE ET EMPERA (DEVIDE AND CONQUER)
oo nga pre! kahit magaling tayo sa tagaan hindi naman tayo united kaya hindi tayo umubra sa mga kastila!

Ang Alam ko sa lahat ng mga uto-uto at laging nagpapauto sa mga kastila noon ay mga KAPAMPANGAN.

Di ba kapag may mga rebellion noon, mga Kapampangan ang sinasabak agad. epekto ng devide and conquer ng mga kastila.

Yung nakapasok nga sa H.Q ng mga British noon nang lumusob sila sa Manila eh kapampangan din.

Yung Macabebe Scouts, mga traydor, di ba sila din yun humuli kay Aguinaldo?

Im just Wondering! Siguro Magaling din sa Escrima yung mga Kapampangan kasi lagi sila ang Suki eh!



Jc2
Hehe ako ay half Kapampangan pero hindi ako marunong magsalita ng Kapampangan. Hindi ako naturuan yung kultura ng Pampanga except mga parols sa pasko
vynncute
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Hehe ako ay half Kapampangan pero hindi ako marunong magsalita ng Kapampangan. Hindi ako naturuan yung kultura ng Pampanga except mga parols sa pasko


jc2 peace tayo ha! baka galit ka eh! hi hi hi! biggrin.gif
Ilonggo
what i understand sa mga kapampangan eh, mayroon na silang deep hatred sa mga tagalog way before the spaniards came over, and also vice versa. the spaniard figured this out. funny you mentioned that because the americans used the kapampangan (you're correct, sir; the Macabebe) as well. pero in regards to the spaniards, it was more than just here in luzon. they used the visayans against the moro, and even using moro (maguindanaon vs suluanos) against each other. oportunista talaga! in regards to being the best eskrimador? i would say visayan, but then again i'm being biased biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .
Jc2
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jc2 peace tayo ha! baka galit ka eh! hi hi hi! biggrin.gif


hindi ako galit beerchug.gif
Goombaking209
whatabout that elbow sword-like weapon that talim used from soul caliber 2 ?

btw, does talim in tagalog means sharp?
pulu-pulu
What about bow-and-arrows? I read in the Spanish accounts that they had bow-and-arrows but I don't really hear about them ever.
BatangDamo
Reminds me of WW2 German Sten sub machinegun

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This Filipino Sub Machinegun has a firepower of 800-850 rounds enough to cut you in half.

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http://www.timawa.net/defense/smallarms/floromk9.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floro_MK-9
Jc2
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Nov 17 2006, 12:54 PM) *

whatabout that elbow sword-like weapon that talim used from soul caliber 2 ?

btw, does talim in tagalog means sharp?


Ya, Talim's name is sharp or edge in Tagalog. I heard her weapons aren't really Filipino but Okinawan or Malaysian or Indonesian.

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Her name 'Talim' means 'edge' (as in the sharp part of a blade, knife, etc.) in Tagalog. It can also mean 'sharp' when used as an adjective. In her command list, most of the moves are in Tagalog. However, her style and weapon (bladed tonfa) themselves are not specifically Filipino; but rather derived from weapons found in Malaysia and Indonesia.
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(Goombaking209 @ Nov 17 2006, 12:54 PM) *

whatabout that elbow sword-like weapon that talim used from soul caliber 2 ?

btw, does talim in tagalog means sharp?

youre right about the word talim but her weapon.....mmmm it aint a native filipino weapon

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Ilonggo
yup talim means sharp, but the weapon is so not filipino. never played the series but i was informed in soul caliber 3, taki's secret weapon is a moro kris. for sure i know this: ashrah's weapon of choice in Mortal Kombat: Deception was a moro kris.


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Whoops, sorry SoV, you beat me to it, loll
Jc2
Talim should get a real Filipino weapon in SC3. Preferebly the kampilan

Imagine Talim with a kampilan biggrin.gif
Majapahitans
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kris
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That one looks really Indonesian........ biggrin.gif

Guess Phillippines share culture with Indonesia.....
I believe Keris originated from Java..... spread across archipelago since the time of Majapahit empire.....


Javanese Keris

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Balinese Keris

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Balinese Woman and Keris

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Intricate design of Indonesian Hulu Keris (keris handle)...

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pulu-pulu
Let's don't forget spears and blow guns. icon_smile.gif

Philippine Armory
Ilonggo
thanks for the link, pulu-pulu!


Majapahitans


the first one is a bastardized modern version of the moro kris. nothing is worse than exploiting anything filipino here to make a few bucks. i'm assuming the set was meant for a espada y daga, yet it's ironic that whoever try to copy it are using pseudo-moro weaponries, lol.

yes, you are right that keris originated in indonesia, as we have a lot in common. one big difference between an indo keris and a moro kris is the keris is more for stabbing, while the keris is for slashing and hacking. i'm still learning the intricacies of your country's weapon, as i find them very interesting. not only that, it answers a lot of my questions as well in regards to the filipino weapons.
dalawapo
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damn she looks so hot as a goddess. i fhave a picture of a filipin kris i think it mention to be from sulu. its really hotttttt, i wish i can acquire it.

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