a_tacitus
Oct 18 2006, 03:10 PM
The consequence if China refuse to punish North Korea nuclear test.
First, the U.S. allows Japan to develop its own nuclear program. Most Japanese would oppose this, but seeing China refusal to punish North Korea, many would quietly let the program develop or Japanese would secretly develop it. With many nuclear facilities, it would takes weeks before Japan can have the bomb. Second, the U.S. encourge South Korea to develop their own nuclear weapon. Third, China would hate to see this happen. But if the U.S. is so angry at China refusal to punish North Korea, the U.S. can pretends it doesn't see or even encourage Taiwan to develop its own nuclear weapon. Wouldn't it be cool? Taiwan has a nuclear weapon. That would make China think twice before invade the island. Taiwan is so close to China that it could nukes Hong Kong, and major cities in Southern China within minutes.
BigBenChow
Oct 18 2006, 03:31 PM
QUOTE(a_tacitus @ Oct 18 2006, 04:10 PM)

The consequence if China refuse to punish North Korea nuclear test.
First, the U.S. allows Japan to develop its own nuclear program. Most Japanese would oppose this, but seeing China refusal to punish North Korea, many would quietly let the program develop or Japanese would secretly develop it. With many nuclear facilities, it would takes weeks before Japan can have the bomb. Second, the U.S. encourge South Korea to develop their own nuclear weapon. Third, China would hate to see this happen. But if the U.S. is so angry at China refusal to punish North Korea, the U.S. can pretends it doesn't see or even encourage Taiwan to develop its own nuclear weapon. Wouldn't it be cool? Taiwan has a nuclear weapon. That would make China think twice before invade the island. Taiwan is so close to China that it could nukes Hong Kong, and major cities in Southern China within minutes.
The Mutual assured destruction (MAD) doctrine is nothing new. Threatening China with a nuclear arm Japan means nothing since it is already under the US nuclear umbrella. Japan nukes us, we nuke them and in the end, everyon dies. Little would change.
However, China needs to be mindfull about its international image. In order to keep it positive, it must act with the majority of the UNSC and therefore, punishment of NK is needed.
moviez
Oct 18 2006, 03:58 PM
China has already imposed sanction on N. Korea
ktchong
Oct 18 2006, 04:02 PM
I still say China should just replace Kim Jong-Il and install a new regime that will listen to China. Right now the situation is just not getting any better for China by letting North Korea run wild. A regime change is something China should seriously consider at this point to turn the tide and change the situation in China's favor. I'm suprised no other Chinese has even mentioned it yet. The US does it (i.e., regime change) all the time in Latin America and the Middle East.
I have an idea.
1) Put the tighest sanction ever against NK.
2) Toughen up Chinese-NK border with barbed wire, mine, and explosives.
3) Bomb NK-SK DMZ fenses. Open up thousands of passages between NK and SK for NK who wants
freedom.
4) Brocast to NK people and direct them to flee the south for freedom and democracy which they won't
get in NK and China.
Good plan?
ChugokuOtaku
Oct 18 2006, 04:58 PM
just... annex them
much easier
we feed their whole country anyway
33rd province of the PRC, make it a reality
why does China want more population?
Suijen
Oct 18 2006, 10:18 PM
Ridiculous ideas.
War is the last thing China needs right now.
kunomchu
Oct 18 2006, 10:31 PM
QUOTE(Suijen @ Oct 18 2006, 11:18 PM)

Ridiculous ideas.
War is the last thing China needs right now.
most definately. Make love and not war. Wait.... who wants to make love with kim jung il? Suijen? ewww
Suijen
Oct 18 2006, 10:47 PM
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Oct 18 2006, 09:31 PM)

most definately. Make love and not war. Wait.... who wants to make love with kim jung il? Suijen? ewww
Go make passionate anal war with his batt.
~Theta~
Oct 19 2006, 01:40 AM
...like other countries don't develop nuclear weapons as well?
a_tacitus
Oct 19 2006, 09:03 AM
Seriously, East Asia hasn't fought a war among itself for a long time. East Asia need some tension or maybe a small war. I'm hoping for hostile arm conflict between PRC and Taiwan, soon. But outside of that conflict, there isn't much. Japan and South Korea skirmish last summer over some small island. But it's dead now. China, South Korea and Japan b!tch at each other about wartime representation in Japanese's textbook. But it's dead, too. China population is 1.3 billions. It desparate needs a war to put its population under control or maybe another Mao Zedong Great Leap Forward program to starve off a few hundred million Chinese.
Yeonsangun
Oct 19 2006, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(a_tacitus @ Oct 18 2006, 03:10 PM)

The consequence if China refuse to punish North Korea nuclear test.
First, the U.S. allows Japan to develop its own nuclear program. Most Japanese would oppose this, but seeing China refusal to punish North Korea, many would quietly let the program develop or Japanese would secretly develop it. With many nuclear facilities, it would takes weeks before Japan can have the bomb. Second, the U.S. encourge South Korea to develop their own nuclear weapon. Third, China would hate to see this happen. But if the U.S. is so angry at China refusal to punish North Korea, the U.S. can pretends it doesn't see or even encourage Taiwan to develop its own nuclear weapon. Wouldn't it be cool? Taiwan has a nuclear weapon. That would make China think twice before invade the island. Taiwan is so close to China that it could nukes Hong Kong, and major cities in Southern China within minutes.
that simply won't happen. China has never been the factor to stop Japan going nuclear. It has always been the USA. Don't you see Ms. Rice yesterday was so egar to reiterate American FULL secuitry guarantee towards Japan? She also made sure that Japanese foreign minister and prime minister reiterated Japan's Three Non-Nuclear Principles yesterday.
China is going ahead with international sanctions against NK. As for how much China will enforce the sanction, that's anybody's guess. China is not stupid enough to choke Kim Jungil to death. His regime still has good value to China. Taiwan's internal political problem has already handicapped herslef. China won't worry about Taiwan because there is no need.
martin_nuke
Oct 20 2006, 04:50 AM
I think there are many political figures, communists and syndicates in China who finance and support North Korea's Nuclear ambition and made North Korea a front maybe the communists in China wants North Korea to start a war.
It is like the Middle East financially supporting the Muslim Insurgency in the Philiipines or Iran financially supporting Hezbolla of Lebanon.
ktchong
Oct 20 2006, 07:20 AM
Just scroll thru a_tacitu's profile and posting history. He is anti-Chinese, and his past messages and attitude have made that quite clear. He has been making suggestions (including this one) that would undermine China. That's his real intention.
So, China should do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what a_tacitu suggested.
Ino_II
Oct 20 2006, 12:57 PM
make love not warcraft
donthateonboca
Oct 20 2006, 04:38 PM
Just scroll thru a_tacitu's profile and posting history. He is anti-Chinese, and his past messages and attitude have made that quite clear. He has been making suggestions (including this one) that would undermine China. That's his real intention.
So, China should do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what a_tacitu suggested.
same thing with chinese trolls that would do the same even worse.
Captain Corea
Oct 20 2006, 09:32 PM
I think at this point China is trying to maintain it's growing role on the world stage. To do this though, it is being pushed into responsibility for the NK crisis. For years China has followed a doctrine of not being manouvedinto action, at his point though, they may find themselves with little choice.
~Theta~
Oct 20 2006, 09:44 PM
Is it even certain that North Korea will use its nuclear weapons to start a war against another country? A lot of western countries have their own nuclear weapons too. Who are they to say "No, N. Korea, we're not allowing you to have your own?"
big_d!ck
Oct 20 2006, 09:52 PM
Hello Mr.Chang, lets play a nice game of MAD.
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