Full Version: Vietnamese with Chinese background
Recently, vietnamese who with chinese background are more respect than in the past. The government respect those people also. Vietnamese-chinese will have the equal right like native vietnamese, they also have the same benefits as other local vietnamese. Now Vietnamese who with chinese background can learn chinese in vietman school or other private chinese school. Also, now many chinese movies that are showing in vietman TV everyday. Those movies came form hong kong , taiwan, some from China. Many things have been change to the vietnamese-chinese. There many buddhism temple are reopen now and new traditional chinese newspaper. Vietnamese with chinese background are beneficial in vietnam society today.
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So What About It?
Thats good to hear. I hope it'll just get better and better from this point on.
what is the point of this thread?
QUOTE(csgt @ Oct 19 2006, 07:45 AM) 
Recently, vietnamese who with chinese background are more respect than in the past. The government respect those people also. Vietnamese-chinese will have the equal right like native vietnamese, they also have the same benefits as other local vietnamese. Now Vietnamese who with chinese background can learn chinese in vietman school or other private chinese school. Also, now many chinese movies that are showing in vietman TV everyday. Those movies came form hong kong , taiwan, some from China. Many things have been change to the vietnamese-chinese. There many buddhism temple are reopen now and new traditional chinese newspaper. Vietnamese with chinese background are beneficial in vietnam society today.
chinese economy is growing rapidly ,so Vietnamese-Chinese are easier to get a decent job .
QUOTE(badguy2000 @ Oct 18 2006, 10:33 PM)
chinese economy is growing rapidly ,so Vietnamese-Chinese are easier to get a decent job .
In the future Spratly Islands will welcome Chinese tourists also
QUOTE(LVF @ Oct 18 2006, 11:52 PM)
what is the point of this thread?
Currently, China and Vietnam having good relationship. People are getting more contact with business in both country. They can go travel outside of their country. Chinese and vietnamese are benefits if we have a good Policy and law. Government make them feel happy and equally. Being a vietnamese with chinese background want to get a really good life in their country. They will have a better eduacation and can make more money in the futrue.
QUOTE(badguy2000 @ Oct 19 2006, 03:33 PM)
In the future Spratly Islands will welcome Chinese tourists also.
china won't make any concession to vietnam on the dispute of spratly
It's not unthinkable that there will be a new war between China and Vietnam over the Spratly islands. Guess which Vietnamese minority will be the losers of the conflict?
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 20 2006, 01:50 AM)
It's not unthinkable that there will be a new war between China and Vietnam over the Spratly islands. Guess which Vietnamese minority will be the losers of the conflict?
well.
maybe status quo can be kept until Taiwan is overtaken by mainland China.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 19 2006, 11:50 AM)
It's not unthinkable that there will be a new war between China and Vietnam over the Spratly islands. Guess which Vietnamese minority will be the losers of the conflict?
China can not come close to the spratly islands because these islands belongs to vietnam. Now vietnam Navy and Airforce are patrolling those islands. Vietnam Gunboat patrol the water near the spratly islands everday. Also, the Vietnam airforce helicopter come out very three week over the spratly air.
although China and U.S.seem to keep quarreling with each other,in fact both U.S. and china are conjoint twins.in fact,both are the biggest beneficiary of globalization.U.S won't give any help to ASEAN on the issue of Spratly islands,for they needs chinese help on other issues ,such as korea,iran....
as soon as U.S. is not going to intervune,all ASEAN coutries can't stand chance on Spratly islands.
QUOTE(easternshadow @ Oct 20 2006, 02:11 AM)
China can not come close to the spratly islands because these islands belongs to vietnam. Now vietnam Navy and Airforce are patrolling those islands. Vietnam Gunboat patrol the water near the spratly islands everday. Also, the Vietnam airforce helicopter come out very three week over the spratly air.
that is just status quo for time being.china won't give up those small islands.
once issue of taiwan is to be solved, china will concentrate its energy on spratly islands.
even the united navy and airforce of all ASEAN counties will be easily swept off.
LOL here we go, another Spratly thread. 
Is that a bit wishful nationalistic thinking? Do you even know why the PRC want the Spratly Islands? Those tiny islands doesn't even have inhabitants. The PRC want the islands because the strategic advantage position of the islands to secure the trade routes with India/Europe... etc and the oil. As long there is a conflict over the islands it's purpose self-defeating. Possible conflict with ASEAN countries, forget about secure trade routes and forget about getting oils. That is why the PRC want to do a concession, if you're not keeping up with the current situation, get the oil and share the profit with Vietnam and Philippines.
For Vietnam it's the sentiment, nationalistic value. The PRC claim is weak, and they bullied Vietnam to many times in the past. Vietnam has enough of oil, it export more oil than import right now. So Vietnam can wait, no rush, maybe they wait for that window of opportunity: PRC/ROC conflict. Why the PRC don't use brute force to conquer the whole islands chain right now, Vietnam occupies more islets than the PRC and they're prepared/not afraid to wage a war, it's simple because the PRC can't, despise your nationalistic thinking, they had the chance when the PRC was in conflict with Vietnam.
Is that a bit wishful nationalistic thinking? Do you even know why the PRC want the Spratly Islands? Those tiny islands doesn't even have inhabitants. The PRC want the islands because the strategic advantage position of the islands to secure the trade routes with India/Europe... etc and the oil. As long there is a conflict over the islands it's purpose self-defeating. Possible conflict with ASEAN countries, forget about secure trade routes and forget about getting oils. That is why the PRC want to do a concession, if you're not keeping up with the current situation, get the oil and share the profit with Vietnam and Philippines.
For Vietnam it's the sentiment, nationalistic value. The PRC claim is weak, and they bullied Vietnam to many times in the past. Vietnam has enough of oil, it export more oil than import right now. So Vietnam can wait, no rush, maybe they wait for that window of opportunity: PRC/ROC conflict. Why the PRC don't use brute force to conquer the whole islands chain right now, Vietnam occupies more islets than the PRC and they're prepared/not afraid to wage a war, it's simple because the PRC can't, despise your nationalistic thinking, they had the chance when the PRC was in conflict with Vietnam.
QUOTE(badguy2000 @ Oct 19 2006, 12:30 PM)
although China and U.S.seem to keep quarreling with each other,in fact both U.S. and china are conjoint twins.in fact,both are the biggest beneficiary of globalization.U.S won't give any help to ASEAN on the issue of Spratly islands,for they needs chinese help on other issues ,such as korea,iran....
as soon as U.S. is not going to intervune,all ASEAN coutries can't stand chance on Spratly islands.
that is just status quo for time being.china won't give up those small islands.
once issue of taiwan is to be solved, china will concentrate its energy on spratly islands.
even the united navy and airforce of all ASEAN counties will be easily swept off.
If China solve taiwan problem, Vietnam will solve Paracel Islands problem. Including the " Itu Aba Island " 'Taiping Dao". All Navy will sink down in the middle of the way to spratly by vietnam Airforce ONLY.
QUOTE(badguy2000 @ Oct 20 2006, 02:30 AM)
although China and U.S.seem to keep quarreling with each other,in fact both U.S. and china are conjoint twins.in fact,both are the biggest beneficiary of globalization.U.S won't give any help to ASEAN on the issue of Spratly islands,for they needs chinese help on other issues ,such as korea,iran....
as soon as U.S. is not going to intervune,all ASEAN coutries can't stand chance on Spratly islands.
that is just status quo for time being.china won't give up those small islands.
once issue of taiwan is to be solved, china will concentrate its energy on spratly islands.
even the united navy and airforce of all ASEAN counties will be easily swept off.
Keep dreaming, badguy. You r bad, indeed.
what is the point of this thread?
I suppose the point of this thread is that the world will stop thnking Vietnamese are racists.
I suppose the point of this thread is that the world will stop thnking Vietnamese are racists.
QUOTE(bolsaeyes @ Oct 20 2006, 06:28 PM)
what is the point of this thread?
I suppose the point of this thread is that the world will stop thnking Vietnamese are racists.
and Off Topic is kinda culture of AF
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 19 2006, 11:54 AM)
LOL here we go, another Spratly thread.
Is that a bit wishful nationalistic thinking? Do you even know why the PRC want the Spratly Islands? Those tiny islands doesn't even have inhabitants. The PRC want the islands because the strategic advantage position of the islands to secure the trade routes with India/Europe... etc and the oil. As long there is a conflict over the islands it's purpose self-defeating. Possible conflict with ASEAN countries, forget about secure trade routes and forget about getting oils. That is why the PRC want to do a concession, if you're not keeping up with the current situation, get the oil and share the profit with Vietnam and Philippines.
For Vietnam it's the sentiment, nationalistic value. The PRC claim is weak, and they bullied Vietnam to many times in the past. Vietnam has enough of oil, it export more oil than import right now. So Vietnam can wait, no rush, maybe they wait for that window of opportunity: PRC/ROC conflict. Why the PRC don't use brute force to conquer the whole islands chain right now, Vietnam occupies more islets than the PRC and they're prepared/not afraid to wage a war, it's simple because the PRC can't, despise your nationalistic thinking, they had the chance when the PRC was in conflict with Vietnam.
Don't sound like Vietnam only want those island for living, every countries want those islands for the same reason. or else who cares about a couple rocks in the ocean.
I think China should wait and give itself more time to develop too. China was so weak in last 200 years, now China is recoverying, and growing fast. Just invest more money on their advance stealth fighter project, keep building more advance destoriers. Right now, in order to defeat the vietnamese navy, China need at least 1/4 of its Navy power. It's too much for now, let's keep growing and building ships, and make the gap between China nad Vietam become beigger. and we can take them without firing a shot. If China has enough strength to counter USA threat, Taiwan is not a problem, Sprately Island is only a piece of cake.
well, China is currently doing the same thing what I just said, status quote and solve the problems later. Good job.
BTW, how do you know Vietnamese government is not afraid to wage a war with PRC right now? You talks like your government really care about the dignity and integration of the country rather than keeping their power on hand. Let me tell you what, Vietnamese government will sell those Island if someone can promise they another 100 years in power.
QUOTE(W&N @ Oct 24 2006, 12:49 PM)
and Off Topic is kinda culture of AF
Don't sound like Vietnam only want those island for living, every countries want those islands for the same reason. or else who cares about a couple rocks in the ocean.
I think China should wait and give itself more time to develop too. China was so weak in last 200 years, now China is recoverying, and growing fast. Just invest more money on their advance stealth fighter project, keep building more advance destoriers. Right now, in order to defeat the vietnamese navy, China need 1/5 of its Navy power. It's too much for now, let's keep growing and building ships, and make the gap between China nad Vietam become beigger. and we can take them without firing a shot. If China has enough strength to counter USA threat, Taiwan is not a problem, Sprately Island is only a piece of cake.
well, China is currently doing the same thing what I just said, status quote and solve the problems later. Good job.
BTW, how do you know Vietnamese government is not afraid to wage a war with PRC right now? You talks like your government really care about the dignity and integration of the country rather than keeping their power on hand. Let me tell you what, Vietnamese government will sell those Island if someone can promise they another 100 years in power.
QUOTE(W&N @ Oct 24 2006, 07:50 PM)
BTW, how do you know Vietnamese government is not afraid to wage a war with PRC right now? You talks like your government really care about the dignity and integration of the country rather than keeping their power on hand. Let me tell you what, Vietnamese government will sell those Island if someone can promise they another 100 years in power.
Rite
and what do you know? I know it because they fought over Spratly. People already died over those islands. It's not cheap talk. They broadcasted the list of name and birth place of those who died in the clash with the PRC on the radio. We won't forget about the Spratly. Take my word for it.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 24 2006, 08:09 PM)
Rite
and what do you know? I know it because they fought over Spratly. People already died over those islands. It's not cheap talk. They broadcasted the list of name and birth place of those who died in the clash with the PRC on the radio. We won't forget about the Spratly. Take my word for it.I think W&N is right. Those innocent people who died for those islands fought for a lost cause.
QUOTE(W&N @ Oct 24 2006, 10:50 AM)
and Off Topic is kinda culture of AF
I think China should wait and give itself more time to develop too. China was so weak in last 200 years, now China is recoverying, and growing fast. Just invest more money on their advance stealth fighter project, keep building more advance destoriers. Right now, in order to defeat the vietnamese navy, China need at least 1/4 of its Navy power. It's too much for now, let's keep growing and building ships, and make the gap between China nad Vietam become beigger. and we can take them without firing a shot. If China has enough strength to counter USA threat, Taiwan is not a problem, Sprately Island is only a piece of cake.
well, China is currently doing the same thing what I just said, status quote and solve the problems later. Good job.
BTW, how do you know Vietnamese government is not afraid to wage a war with PRC right now? You talks like your government really care about the dignity and integration of the country rather than keeping their power on hand. Let me tell you what, Vietnamese government will sell those Island if someone can promise they another 100 years in power.
W&N
If China wants to bully her neighbors and creates animosity by taking disputed land, don't be surprised that China will find herself isolated and weak again.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 25 2006, 06:18 AM)
W&N
If China wants to bully her neighbors and creates animosity by taking disputed land, don't be surprised that China will find herself isolated and weak again.
China wants to be a regional superpower and a world superpower and must act accordingly
I like it to remain PRC for a long while ...
QUOTE(LaniKai @ Oct 25 2006, 08:23 AM)
China wants to be a regional superpower and a world superpower and must act accordingly
I hope the Chinese leaders understand this. It takes humility and understanding to be great. Arrogance and bulliness are not the signs of a great country.
QUOTE(Sideley @ Oct 25 2006, 04:08 AM)
I think W&N is right. Those innocent people who died for those islands fought for a lost cause.
You and your rhetoric arguement as usual, shame on you.
QUOTE(LVF @ Oct 19 2006, 03:52 AM)
what is the point of this thread?
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QUOTE(hakseng @ Oct 25 2006, 02:06 PM)
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Would you please be so kind not to destroy this thread? Thank you.
Would you please be so kind not to destroy this thread? Thank you.
VietNamese born Chinese or VietNamese-by-naturalizaiton Chinese should have equal right and respect as a VietNamese citizen.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 25 2006, 08:18 AM)
W&N
If China wants to bully her neighbors and creates animosity by taking disputed land, don't be surprised that China will find herself isolated and weak again.
Yes, "If", "if" CHINA behaves like Nazi or Japan during WWII, China deserve a downfall. I dont' be suprised that China will be isolated. But it's not gonna happen right now, and I see no sign China is going in such way. China only wants to bully Taiwan and take it back. I don't see China has any amibition on other country's land.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 24 2006, 01:09 PM)
Rite
and what do you know? I know it because they fought over Spratly. People already died over those islands. It's not cheap talk. They broadcasted the list of name and birth place of those who died in the clash with the PRC on the radio. We won't forget about the Spratly. Take my word for it.I will take your word for it, but will your government? will your army? btw, don't sound like the only thing is one side problem. When you use your finger to point at someone and yell at him, don't you notice the other 4 of fingers are pointing to yourself? So many people died in wars, all over the worlds, Sprately Island, Cambodian, all over Vietnam, China, Japan, Korea, USA, Europe. Our planet are filled with flesh and blood of our homo sapien. I hope a final fussion blast will end our long surfering. well, j/k, I don't wanna die so soon. It's a war, soliders die in war, their duty is to perform their duty and kill their enemies. If they die, don't feel upset, you should feel grace that they devote their life to defend their land, their base, and their bothers in arm. As long as PRC didn't masscure any innocent civilian on the island, you shouldn't blame China then.
but believe or not, your government won't risk their comfortable life for those islands, they probably don't give it a $hit to them. Starting a full scale war with China is just a nightmare to them.
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QUOTE(W&N @ Oct 31 2006, 12:24 AM)
Yes, "If", "if" CHINA behaves like Nazi or Japan during WWII, China deserve a downfall. I dont' be suprised that China will be isolated. But it's not gonna happen right now, and I see no sign China is going in such way. China only wants to bully Taiwan and take it back. I don't see China has any amibition on other country's land.
I will take your word for it, but will your government? will your army? btw, don't sound like the only thing is one side problem. When you use your finger to point at someone and yell at him, don't you notice the other 4 of fingers are pointing to yourself? So many people died in wars, all over the worlds, Sprately Island, Cambodian, all over Vietnam, China, Japan, Korea, USA, Europe. Our planet are filled with flesh and blood of our homo sapien. I hope a final fussion blast will end our long surfering. well, j/k, I don't wanna die so soon. It's a war, soliders die in war, their duty is to perform their duty and kill their enemies. If they die, don't feel upset, you should feel grace that they devote their life to defend their land, their base, and their bothers in arm. As long as PRC didn't masscure any innocent civilian on the island, you shouldn't blame China then.
but believe or not, your government won't risk their comfortable life for those islands, they probably don't give it a $hit to them. Starting a full scale war with China is just a nightmare to them.
That is what your opinion. I disagree. When it comes to our country integrity, as our history already show, Vietnam prepare to lost a lot to save it. All these kindergarten discussion: "My daddy car is bigger than your daddy car" is pointless. Only action counts and history as our witness. You just have to mingle into it, but it's AF so I don't mind. All these Spratly talk is more for for raising situation awareness with other oversea Viet-Kieu's. Since when with a sight of a bigger foe it would stop Viets' determination to defense their country. Are you a Vietnam born Chinese or what? I notice you post a lot here on Viet Chat. Maybe that is why it's a big concern for you.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Oct 30 2006, 08:27 PM)
That is what your opinion. I disagree. When it comes to our country integrity, as our history already show, Vietnam prepare to lost a lot to save it. All these kindergarten discussion: "My daddy car is bigger than your daddy car" is pointless. Only action counts and history as our witness. You just have to mingle into it, but it's AF so I don't mind. All these Spratly talk is more for for raising situation awareness with other oversea Viet-Kieu's. Since when with a sight of a bigger foe it would stop Viets' determination to defense their country. Are you a Vietnam born Chinese or what? I notice you post a lot here on Viet Chat. Maybe that is why it's a big concern for you.
when it comes to the communist officials in Vietnam, i'm not sure if they care much about national integrity, as history has shown time and time again their meekness when it involves red China. what did DRVN do when the Chinese descended upon the Paracels while the RVN fought to protect them? (i know both the North and South were at war, but it's still Vietnamese land, nevertheless). what happened to our Ai Nam Quang and the sea territories at Vinh Bac Bo just a few years back? If they gave up an important landmark like Ai Nam Quang just to foster relations w/ communist China, then what's to stop them from "giving away" the Spratlys? in my opinion, the Vietnamese will fight back, but i guess it'll only be for show.
So much wishful thinking on this thread. The Vietnamese armed forces will be whooped and have its arse handed back by the Chinese in a can in an event of a Vietnam-China conflict over the islands. We're just too weak. What China spends on its armed forces in a year equals what Vietnam spends in half a century. Sad but true.
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QUOTE(W&N @ Oct 31 2006, 07:31 AM)
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QUOTE(justme @ Nov 3 2006, 02:53 AM)
when it comes to the communist officials in Vietnam, i'm not sure if they care much about national integrity, as history has shown time and time again their meekness when it involves red China. what did DRVN do when the Chinese descended upon the Paracels while the RVN fought to protect them? (i know both the North and South were at war, but it's still Vietnamese land, nevertheless). what happened to our Ai Nam Quang and the sea territories at Vinh Bac Bo just a few years back? If they gave up an important landmark like Ai Nam Quang just to foster relations w/ communist China, then what's to stop them from "giving away" the Spratlys? in my opinion, the Vietnamese will fight back, but i guess it'll only be for show.
You mean "Ái Nam Quan" landmark? It's not Vietnamese. The name means Pass of Southern Border gate/custom house. Awkward name for a Vietnamese landmark isn't it? I think there are disputes in the region but the current Vietnamese government never claim the Nam Quan Gate. It was built by the Chinese during the Ming's Jiajing Emperor period. In Western literature it's sometimes referred as "Porte de Chine" or "the Gate of China". You can see the pic here. http://www.eastman.org/ar/strip55/htmlsrc/...950002_ful.html The current border and lot of disputes were result of the Sino-French War in which China lost. Over the background info of China-Vietnam border you check this link, lot of info: http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/...Seas/IBS038.pdf You can also check the info on our borders with Laos, Cambodia: http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/...mericalibs.html
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Joining the Song Ba Veng, the boundary continues its southward trend before crossing first the Lung Chiang and then the Sung-hsing Ho. While the dominant landscape form is still karst, surface drainage appears to a greater degree than to the north. The southward trend of the boundary terminates at the famous Porte de Chine, immediately to the north of Dong Dang. Here the Tonkin-Hunan-Kwangsi railroad crosses the frontier.
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Here a French source, part of the border treaties.
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Proçes-Verbal de la Commission d’Abornement de la Frontière Sino-Annamite
Section EST du Qouang-Si
Le 15 Décembre 1890 (le 4e jour de la 11e lune de la 16e année Kouang-Shui) les commissaires de la commission d’abornement France- Chinoise se sont réunis à Tong-Tchong (Hoang-Mo).
Le 20 décembre les potographes ont commencé les travaux à Tien-Tsong-Chau (Ba-Kong-Si) et ont mis cent vingt jours pour arriver à Binh-Nhi.
La mauvaise saison ne permettant pas de poursuivre les travaux sur la frontière Ouest du Qouang-Si la commission a décidé d’en remettre la continuation à l’automne prochain.
D’après les proçès-verbaux de la Commission de délimitation la frontière EST du Quang-Si était tracée à l’origine sur deux cartes l’une allant de Tien-Tsong-Chau (Ba-Kong-Si) et l’autre de Chi-Ma à Binh-Nhi toute fois pour pouvoir désigner d’une façon plus précises le tracé de la frontière en y inscrivant en détail les nom des montagnes, villages et passes, la Commission a décidé de faire trois cartes, la première de Tien-Tsang-Chau (Bo-Kong-Ai) à Chi-Ma, la seconde de Chi-Ma à Nam-Quan et la troisième de Nam-Quan à Binh-Nhi.
Le tracé parcouru en mesure chinoise est d’environ 604 li.
Sur les cartes le tracé de la frontière a été marqué en vert pointillé de croix noire pour permettre d’en vérifier facilement la similitude.
De Nam-Quan à Binh-Nhi, il a été placé 15 petites bornes ; on placera l’automne prochain les bornes qui n’ont pas encore été plantées, aux points indiqués par un triangle rouge sur le tracé frontière des cartes.
Les petites bornes sus désignées seront remplacées plus tard par de grandes bornes aux mêmes endroits.
Les commissaires franco-chinois ont comparé le tracé frontière des cartes et ont reconnu qu’il était conforme aux proçès-verbaux de l’encienne commission de délimitation, et qu’il n’a fait de part et l’autre, l’objet d’aucune discussion.
Les trois cartes ont été signées et scellés par les commissaires Franco-Chinois, en quatruple expédition, deux expéditions faites par les topographes chinois et deux par les topoghaphes français, une expédition chinoise est remise par le Président chinois au Président français et une expédition française remise par le Président français au Président chinois.
Le proçès-verbal est écrit en français et en chinois en double expédition.
Chaque commission gardera une des expéditions des cartes et du proçès-verbal qui feront foi.
Les bornes seront placées aux points portés sur les cartes conformément aux indications suivants :
1e borne : à l’entrée du défilé de Bac-Cuong-Aï
2e borne : sur le sommet de Pac-Cong-Son
3e borne : au col de Doi-Na-Mai (au point côté 773)
4e borne : sur le sommet de Qui-Tong-Son
5e borne : au col situé à l’ E du village chinois de Cao-Tong
6e borne : sur le petit mamelon à l’E de la porte de Pai-Tchiem-Aï
7e borne : à l’E. de la précédente sur le chemin qui conduit à Na-Pha
8e borne : à Cao-Pai (près du chemin)
9e borne : à Song Pai (près du chemin)
10e borne : à Ken-Hien-Son (près de la porte)
11e borne : sur le sommet de Loug-Mong-Son
12e borne : sur le plateau de Pin-Cong (La borne n° 12 a été supprimée d’un commun d’accord )
13e borne : sur le plateau de Bac Thang Son (près du sentier)
14e borne : à Cao-Pao-Son (au croisement des deux sentiers)
15e borne : à Na-Ma-Kha
16e borne : à Ban-Hang-Kha
17e borne : au point où le sentier de Na-Lom traverse la frontière
18e borne : à la porte de Na-Ha
19e borne :à la porte de Na-Thang
20e borne : au sommet de Ngoc-Hao-Son
21e borne : au point où le chemin de Ban-Thinh à Na-Thuong traverse la frontière
22e borne : au point où le chemin de Ban-Thinh à Na-Hu traverse la frontière
23e borne : au point où le chemin de Na-Phat à Na-Hu traverse la frontière
24e borne : près du poste de Pa-Mau (au sud de la porte de Chi-Ma)
25e borne : à la porte de Chi-Ma
2e section de Chi-Ma à Nam-Quan
1e borne : sur le chemin de Phaï Sam à Chi-Ma à 1200m mesurés sur ce chemin au N.E.
2e borne : sur le premier sommet au N-O et à 800m de la 1e borne
3e borne : à 500m à l’Ouest de la cascade situé près du village chinois de Po-Ho
4e borne : à la porte de Na-Chi
5e borne : sur le sommet de Lo-Nung-Son
6e borne : à la porte de Kouei-Kha
7e borne : au sommet de Na-Loc-Son (côté 409)
8e borne : à la porte Tong-Hon
9e borne : à la porte de Pau-Tchau
10e borne : au sommet de Kim-Kam (côté 402)
11e borne : au sommet de Mey-Moc-Son
12e borne : sur le chemin de Packing à Cauxo (à 300m au N de ce dernier village)
13e borne : sur le chemin de Na-Piou à Po-Héo sur la ligne de crête du Co-Mo-Son
14e borne : à la porte de Aï Loa
15e borne : au sommet de Sam-Sie-Son
16e borne : à la porte de Na-Bo
17e borne : sur le chemin de Na-Pha à Ha-Lai (à 900m au S. de ce dernier village)
18e borne : à la porte de Phac-Kha
19e borne : sur le chemin de Gia-Muc à Ban-Chau (à 1300m de ce dernier village)
20e borne : sur le sommet de Paï_Binh-Son
21e borne : à la porte d’Aï Ro
22e borne : à 400m au S.E. du porte de Cao-Cap (sur le plateau)
23e borne : à Po-Seu
24e borne : sur le sommet placé face du fort chinois de Kouei-Tao
25e borne : à 100m en avant de la porte de Nam-Quan sur le chemin de Dong-Dang
3e section de Nam-Quan à Binh-Nhi
1e borne : sur le chemin de Nam-Quan à Dong-Dang (à 100m au S de la porte)
2e borne : au petit col coupant la crête rocheuse sur le sentier allant de la route de Dong-Dang à Nam-Quan au village de Lung-Ngao.
3e borne : à 250 m à l’O du village de Lung-Ngao sur le sentier allant à Khua-Da
4e borne : à la porte de Bo-Sa
5e borne : 500m au S.E. du village de Na-Thot (sur un sommet élevé)
6e borne : à 100m à l’O du fort de Hi-Tu-Tien-Dina-Phao-Dai
7e borne :à la porte de Song-Tu
8e borne :à 400m au S.E. du village de Na-Phéo
9e borne : à 150m à l’O. du fort de Kéo-Chu
10e borne : à la borne de Thuong-Dong
11e borne : à la porte de Pha-Mat
12e borne : à la porte de Ban-Tuyen
13e borne : à 200m au N.E. du confluent du ruisseau de Ban-Quyen et du ruisseau ayant la direction N.S.
14e borne : à la veille porte située à 500m du point coté 345
15e borne : à l’E de la vallée de Na-Dong près du sentier allant de Luc-Bac à Tra-Kieu
16e borne : sur le mamelon situé à 250m au N.E. du point coté 294
17e borne : au col très bas à 1000m au S. du fort Na-Ho Tan-Tien-Ten-Tien-Sao
18e borne : sur un mamelon dominant le Song Ki-Cung à 150m de la rivière
A Binh-Nhi le 21 Avril 1891, le 13e jour du 3e mois de la 17e année Kouang-Siu
Le Président de la Délégation française
(signature)
Les membres de la délégation française
(4 signatures)
Notice the border markers location list and the location of border marker near Nam Quan. It said clearly 100m south of Nam Quan Gate. I hope people stop talking about Ải Nam Quan, there are important issues to discuss.
deport all chinese.
QUOTE(hennessyXO @ Nov 3 2006, 09:40 AM)
deport all chinese.
Deport all the Chinese from Vietnam to China.
Deport all the Vietnamese from Cambodia, Laos, Australia, United States, Canada, Europe back to Vietnam.
Deport all the Mexicans from the United States back to Mexico.
Deport all the Jews back to Israel.
Deport all the Europeans back to Europe.
Deport all the Arabs to the Middle East.
Deport all the water back to the original source.
Deport all of us back to the wombs of our mothers.
Even better, deport all of us back to our preconception of sperm and egg.
What else you want to deport, XO?
deport all the chinese. that is it. maybe deport all the mexicans too, except for the taco bell people.
QUOTE(hennessyXO @ Nov 3 2006, 09:56 AM)
deport all the chinese. that is it. maybe deport all the mexicans too, except for the taco bell people.
XO:
Do you know that China is one of the biggest trading partners of Vietnam?
Vietnam is hosting the APEC Summit in a few weeks to improve the economic prosperity.
There is no time to think and act backward. It is time to move forward.
stop trading with china. chinese made stuffs are crappy. deport all chinese. throw away all chinese made items.
QUOTE(hennessyXO @ Nov 3 2006, 10:14 AM)
stop trading with china. chinese made stuffs are crappy. deport all chinese. throw away all chinese made items.
XO:
You sound like Pol Pot and Hitler.
Rest In Peace and Never Come Back!
vietnam should deport you and your family back to china too.
QUOTE(hennessyXO @ Nov 3 2006, 10:25 AM)
vietnam should deport you and your family back to china too.
XO:
Fortunately, Vietnam leaders are not crazy like you.
Your hatred without justification is deplorable and abhorable.
vietnamese leaders are some of the most incompetent ones in the world. the prime minister did not even finish high school. wait until i become leader and vietnam will become a superpower.
QUOTE(hennessyXO @ Nov 3 2006, 10:55 AM)
vietnamese leaders are some of the most incompetent ones in the world. the prime minister did not even finish high school. wait until i become leader and vietnam will become a superpower.
XO:
The current Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung graduated with a bachelor's degree in law.
http://www.answers.com/topic/nguy-n-t-n-d-ng
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