In a few of my posts I sensed some hostility against the Dutch, especially about their role in the Indonesian Independence War. Strange, because many Indonesian veterans seem to have a milder opion about the Dutch.

For instance the widow of the former commander of the Indonesian Army Abdul Nasution, Johanna Sunarti, said about the Dutch Amy commander Simon Spoor:

"General Spoor was a tremendous opponent for my husband during the war. But there was no hatred, just a lot of respect for the mutual talents. Both the Dutch and the Indonesians thought they fought a justified war. Your soldiers never did us personally something wrong, you always treated us respectable".

And this is what former rear-admiral Iman Sardjono had to say about Spoor.

"Spoor was a gentleman. Not one Indonesian officer would ever doubt that. In these days he called us agitators, boyscouts and footpads. But what do you want, it was war, we did things which weren't very noble. During the Tweede Politionele Actie in 1948 I was part of the engineer regiment of our freedom-army. But in stead of building bridges, I destroyed them. General Spoor wanted to win the war in six months. Our commander wanted to throw the Dutch back in the sea in the same period. Both failed at their mission. Looking back, I'm glad at this".

^ LOL, Dutch soldiers are "gentlemen"? Tell that to the massacre victims of Westerling and other Dutch atrocities. And you are wrong, Indonesian soldiers during war of independence hated the Dutch very much.

In fact, the great general Nasution whom you accused of being pro-Dutch coordinated the glorious ethnic-cleansing of all Dutch citizens from Indonesia and the confiscation of all Dutch properties in 1957-1958. I guess you consider ethnic-cleansing as a form of "mild opinion"

How many people died in Zuid-Celebes according to you? I know you are very creative with statistics, so I'm curious!



All politics. The wife of Nasustion was half Dutch.

If I'm so wrong, read the comments of Henk Ulrici, a highranking officer of DST during Westerlings campaign in Zuid-Celebes and the leader of group "Eric" in the last years of the war. How do you explain this:

"I had a very good relationship with Kabilarang, the commander of the Siliwangi-division. After the indepence he stayed in my house for 3 days. He remembered that in the war he was once only a few metres away when my platoon passed. 'Why didn't you shoot at us', I asked him. He was afraid that after our small group the main force would follow. That's why they let us pass. But there was no main force at all. We both had to laugh about it a lot".

^ LOL, deal with it Swede, Nasution and Kawilarang were not "pro-Dutch", otherwise they won't kill Dutch soldiers during war of independence nor would they organised ethnic-cleansing of Dutch citizens in 1957.