how come lots of black people say they have native american blood while in reality i hardly see any black/native couples??
is it just the black people that come on asian forums or is this everywhere
don't mean this racist but just something i wondered about

Blacks and Native Americans had been mixing for hundreds of years. So did alot of Whites and Native Americans. Alot of blacks claim Native American ancestory from several generations previous. Although I have a feeling alot are full of $hit and just claim it for the hell of it.

Basically it's what Jasel said. When you hear people say that, they're not talking about recent mixtures most of the time, so it's not really a matter of how many couples you see in this day and age.
And it's virtually everywhere (in America).

In some cases, because of the haziness of racial categories back a hundred or so years ago and prior (and also for reasons involving "self preservation"), the "Natives" that some people thought were Natives were really mulattos, and in other cases mulattos people thought were mulattos were really Natives, so sometimes when people say that, they could be referring to that kind of situation.

thanks i understand now thanks

haha. i hear more "i'm cherokee" from white people, than anybody else.

alot of creole have creek blood in 'em (also some have filipino in 'em). some seminoles (at least or esp. in florida) also have african blood since alot of runaway slaves (some of which became chiefs and led bands against the US Army in the Seminole Wars) and other tribes ie if i'm not wrong the some tuscarora (same one that later immigrated north to join the Iroquois Nation) moved south to join the "unconquered people".

here's a link to the Black Seminoles

random fact: some native plains indians use to call black slaves in the same manner they called white people as well. it think it was later on only that tribes as the kiowas who termed "buffalo soldier"

"You have good hurr." "Yeah my grandmother's Cherokee." hahaha I hear that alot. lol

wheres running house?

He'll pop in sooner or later. Hopefully later.

lolz

lolz again.

but i agree with the above posters. usually these people aren't talking about parents or gandparents, it most likely goes much farther than that.

or they're jsut bull$hitting.

BROTHER BEAR!

People always say they're cherokee when they're full of $hit

^Hey, my biological dad is supposedly a quarter Cherokee. But I agree actually, I see a lot of white people (and some black people) who just claim that to look cool. I mean, if it was really part of yor upbringing, or you at least look it, then claim away. But if you're a white guy from Tennessee, with two equally white parents, then please do not give me the "I'm part Cherokee" line of bull$hit.

Someone explain why being part Cherokee adds cool points?

Agreed. It irritates the hell out of me when people (especially blacks) have to talk about their 4% Native American heritage like they have some sort of legitimate claim to it. Seriously stfu. Most of them wouldn't recognize a Native American if one walked up and kicked them in the nuts. They'd probably start complaining about Mexicans or Asians or some $hit.

@Tycoon: For white people it's because in recent years being "white" in America has turned into being "boring." They're trying to seem less white bread, less boring, more cool. And I've seen a lot of whites use that as a point when making racist comments: "Hey, I'm not racist. I'm 1/32 Cherokee." Sure you are, tubbo.

@Jasel: Yeah, I hate that, too. I've met only one black kid that claimed Native-American blood where he actually looked it enough for me to buy it. But other than him, I just keep seeing black guys (and girls) who don't look it at all, have had no Cherokee influence to their upbringing, but like to pretend it's this huge part of themselves. Which I don't get, it kind of implies that they feel being black isn't good enough so they're going to run around talking about their tiny little drop of Cherokee blood to make themselves feel better.

Exactly. Which is why that bull$hit irritates me so much. I most likely have European ancestory. But I could care less about that crap. (No offense to Europeans) And I definetly don't go around advertising or bragging about it. Blacks can't be satisfied being black?? They have to crawl back 7 or 8 generations for a sense of identity?? Screw that.

I've never heard a black person say they were Native Indian, but I've heard plenty of white ppl say it. Usually black people say they're puerto rican - it's more believable.

Well even most socalled Native Americans aren't really native much because there are too few of a genetic pool for them to interbreed without having disastrous consequences. Most are mainly European. The big native communities like in New Mexico and Arizona have it bad. When they walk out of their reservation, people would assume them to be a more indigenous looking Mexicans or other Hispanics. I feel for them because circumstances have further fu-ked things up for them.

I haven't heard that. Where are you from?




@ Everybody else: Not everyone BSes about it, but usually when someone does BS, it's usually because someone in their family starts rumors about certain relatives who are mixed when they don't know with what or don't want to claim "white" ancestors and decide to make them Native ...

Likewise, a lot of white Americans who claim Native ancestry do so because someone in the family was actually black and they decide to designate that person as Native to cover up for any darkness that resurges in the family.


As you can see, Little Johnny has reached back to his Cherokee roots.



Also, what Metropolitan is saying is true. Therefore even a lot of the people who really do have "Native" ancestors had "Native" ancestors who really weren't even full Natives themselves, so in the long run the ancestry isn't that significant anyway even though the relative may have passed as Native. Even I have a couple of ancestors like that.

I'm from NorCal and they're are alot of native indians that people don't know about. You probably pass them over because you think they're mexican or asian. There are hundreds of tribes that are not even recognized by the government. So the census of how many Natives are in the U.S. is not accurate.

I heard the Cherokee tribe is one of the five tribes or civillized tribes?
many of them became Christians and the Cherokees also owned plantations and had black slaves work for them , the Cherokees actually owned slaves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes

I have mets lots of blond haired blue eyed caucasions that claim to be part native american

I have only met one full blooded native american in my entire life, he was from AZ

most others that claim native ancestory are either mixed with white or Mexican

you're citing wikipedia as a credible source??? i know some full blooded indians - but thats probly cuz my family is mixed with apache

A kid I knew in high school was applying to colleges as a minority. He was a white kid and he was claiming cherokee ancestry on his application. I think he mentioned it in his essays as well. I heard third hand that he was asked by the school for a reservation number . I think he had to withdraw that app.

Of course, this is he said she said, so who knows, but that's definitely a popular one. Why do they choose Cherokee specifically?

More well-known....East Coast tribe.....

Well some international schools (China) is coming up. With a dominating economy and opportunities growing I bet some White People will start claiming Chinese Ancestry if not already just to try to get in.

that and the fact that the Cherokee actually were settled and lived in the sooner state (relocated to,used to be called "indian territory" amidst states). it's probably true that cherokees have had more interaction with white/black people than most other tribes.

Well I think the main reason so many people claim Native blood is because it's rare since not many are left and therefore "special", whereas there are over 1 billion Chinese...so...I don't know...

The Siminole Indians of Florida and Oklahoma(the only unconquered Indian in eastern US) count in their number 2 Black Siminole tribes who are decendant of runaway slaves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Seminoles

^ Got a couple ancestors who were Black Seminoles
(That's no BS <.<)

alot of whites say they're part indian so they can open up casinos.

There are a people of mixed native American and black people in Central America called Garifuna. They are supposedly the decendants of the shipwrecked African slaves who were mixed with the Carib people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garifuna