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Suijen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6074252.stm

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Britain is in danger of becoming a nation fearful of its young people, new research has claimed.

British adults are less likely than their European counterparts to intervene to stop teenagers committing anti-social behaviour.

The Institute for Public Policy report has blamed changes in the family, communities and the economy for the "increased risk of youth crime".

It said teenagers needed structured activities like drama and sports clubs.


We don't have a culture where adults go out to pubs and bars and bring children with them, and so there is a problem about adults being less used to having children around
Julia Margot, from the IPPR

Julia Margot, from the IPPR, told the BBC Radio Five Live: "In Britain, as opposed to countries like Spain and Italy, adults are less likely to socialise with children in the evenings.

"So we don't have this culture of children hanging out and playing out in the town square where adults are also socialising and drinking.

"We don't have a culture where adults go out to pubs and bars and bring children with them, and so there is a problem about adults being less used to having children around."

The 200-report, which followed a major debate on the "problems of modern youth" by academics and experts in the field, says that last year more than 1.5 million Britons thought about moving away from their local area due to young people hanging around.

About 1.7 million admitted to avoiding going out after dark as a direct result of youths gathering.

Britons were also three times more likely to cite young people "hanging around" as a problem than they were to complain about noisy neighbours.

'Turning a blind eye'

British adults were more likely than their other European counterparts to say that young people were predominantly responsible for anti-social behaviour, and cite "lack of discipline as the root cause of anti-social behaviour".

Elsewhere in Europe, 65% of Germans, 52% of Spanish and 50% of Italians would be willing to intervene if they saw a group of 14-year-old boys in their country vandalising a bus shelter, compared with just 34% of Britons.

The Britons who were unwilling to get involved claimed they feared being physically attacked or verbally abused - or that they would be the victim of subsequent reprisals.

Nick Pearce, IPPR director, said: "The debate about childhood in Britain is polarised between false opposites: that either children or adults are to blame.

"In closer knit communities, adults supervised their neighbours' children.

"These days, adults tend to turn a blind eye or cross over on the other side of the road rather than intervene in the discipline of another person's child, often because they fear they might be attacked."

Recommendations for every secondary school pupil - aged 11 to 16 - to participate in at least two hours a week of structured extra curricular activities like martial arts, drama clubs and Scouts, will be published in the report "Freedom's Orphans: Raising Youth in a Changing World" next month.


Okay, so it's maybe not just white people, but this is funny nonetheless. On the up side, Burberry is the current fashion crazy, so I think I'll pick myself up a pair sometime.
big_d!ck
young British people are crazy...dont we have a few here in AF?
cephicide
Could the loss of their homogony be responsible?

A lot of Japanese people attribute Japan's low crime rates and youth progressiveness to their uniform society, and that belief is responsible for Japan's strict immigration policies.

If homogony makes Japan's society great, wouldn't it make Britain's society great?
AgentBach
just kill your kids and start over.
Adee
QUOTE(big_d!ck @ Oct 22 2006, 07:29 AM) *

young British people are crazy...dont we have a few here in AF?

lol you're talkin' to me badteeth.gif

QUOTE(cephicide @ Oct 22 2006, 09:16 AM) *

Could the loss of their homogony be responsible?

A lot of Japanese people attribute Japan's low crime rates and youth progressiveness to their uniform society, and that belief is responsible for Japan's strict immigration policies.

If homogony makes Japan's society great, wouldn't it make Britain's society great?

No, it's because of the deteriation of traditional family values.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE(cephicide @ Oct 22 2006, 10:16 AM) *

Could the loss of their homogony be responsible?


Well no, considering the main worry is the threat of white youths.
flipcombatmedic
just british? when i took a class several years ago they said about the same thing about American elderly people...and for a good reason. but surprisingly thanks to that phobia and god's gift of the sandman visiting them by nine o'clock, they have the smallest cases of getting into trouble...except killing people on the road of course.
EvilAsianDude
Chavs-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

The same crap is happening in the US. Some schools in the US the teachers are terrified of their students. Its no longer about sending kids to the principles office or time out. These kids pack heat, beat their teachers and do not give a $hit for punishment. Gang violence is common and high school dropouts are not that rare. The ladies get pregnant at an early age, the boys abandon them. Chav is the equivalent to ghetto trash in the US. Its no wonder why so many of them are afraid. This is one reason why id abhor gangsta culture.
TyCooN
laugh.gif@BritainThey'reScaredOfChavs

You know your country is fu-ked up when everone there is fearful of some ghetto faced wiggers.
ham_let
lol.. chavs... embarassedlaugh.gif

i was always under the impression that it was the same in the united states though, interesting. maybe i will move to the states in the future...
Mr.T
this is what UK needs right now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhgQxX7oSRE...69B&index=1
Takashi
QUOTE(Mr.T @ Oct 24 2006, 12:39 AM) *

embarassedlaugh.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(Jaimu-Jaimu @ Oct 23 2006, 09:31 PM) *

Well no, considering the main worry is the threat of white youths.

But then why do white people keep blaming the minorities?

QUOTE(Mr.T @ Oct 24 2006, 12:39 AM) *

If Chav Royale was a movie, it would become the biggest blockbuster hit in British history. It would be every white British adult's dream come true.

Now that I think about it, there should be a Battle Royale trilogy. Chav Royale would be a great way to end the trilogy.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE(Jagger @ Oct 24 2006, 01:31 PM) *

But then why do white people keep blaming the minorities?


Let me guess....you live in London? icon_rolleyes.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(Jaimu-Jaimu @ Oct 24 2006, 01:49 PM) *

Let me guess....you live in London? icon_rolleyes.gif

Not anymore. Now I live in Bangland.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE(Jagger @ Oct 24 2006, 02:55 PM) *

Not anymore. Now I live in Bangland.


Ah....just seems the Londoners always blame minorities. embarassedlaugh.gif
I hate to say it but TyCooN is right. XD
Happy Asian
Can't blame the Brits, I wouldn't intervene either
Bixie
Never read so much $hit in my life (referring to actual posts, not the article)

It isn't just chavs, even though when they get into groups they can be intimidating. And it isn't even majorly white people as suijen (who had the cheek to call me ignorant once) sN*ggaed about. A lot of people the adults are scared of - at least in london - are black, but they're not chavs, because in a lot of areas white people ARE the minorities, especially in places like east london. And wouldn't you be too if you had to watch who you looked at and and what you said and the way you walk everyday? The majority of chavs are more of a joke than a danger, most of them aren't capable of real harm - you can all sit back and laugh at adults being scared of them, but try hopping on the bus one day and walking past a lot of them and you wouldn't be laughing so much anymore, I've got a feeling most of you would be shaking in your boots. The only thing scary about them are their mouths but you've got to show them who's boss otherwise they trample you. So what's so funny about it when you yourself would feel exactly the same if you were in their shoes?

And if you try to discipline them, they'll laugh in your face or get their own underclass parents to "hunt you down."

See what I mean about THINKING your smart - you just look like a fool if you're not there while it's going on. And plz don't come backlash me with any of your bull$hit about how I'm the "ignorant" one. It will probably be ignored.

Anyway youth of today need the CANE bought back - a good fu-king beating is what most unruly little cunts need.
flipcombatmedic
sorry for my ignorance but what is "chavs"?
Jagger
QUOTE(Bixie @ Oct 25 2006, 04:45 PM) *

Anyway youth of today need the CANE bought back - a good fu-king beating is what most unruly little cunts need.

Totally agree.

QUOTE(flipcombatmedic @ Oct 25 2006, 05:01 PM) *

sorry for my ignorance but what is "chavs"?

Dictionary.com:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chav
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Main Entry: chav
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: the lower class; uneducated and ignorant people
Etymology: perh. Romany chav child
Usage: derogatory slang

Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
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Chav is a derogatory slang term in the United Kingdom which appeared in mainstream dictionaries in 2005.

The term “chav” refers to a subcultural stereotype of people fixated on fashions such as flashy “bling” jewellery (generally gold) along with designer clothing in the Burberry pattern (most famously a now-discontinued baseball cap) and from a variety of other casual and sportswear brands. Musically, chavs tend to like rap, Rave dance, and RnB. Response to the term has ranged from amusement to criticism that it is a new manifestation of classism. It has been mistakenly assumed by some social commentators, particularly Julie Burchill that the term chav is aimed at the entire working class. Rather it is, like the term Rah (used to describe a particular type of upper and upper-middle class person) a pejorative term used to lable a type of annoying, ill-behaved person who usually favours hooded tracksuit tops, spits, swears and is a general nuisance. As such is it possible for a person to come from a middle class background, assume these attributes and become a chav.

In other words, it's the UK equivalent to ghetto gangsters in the US.
Jaimu-Jaimu

Let's regress back to the cane why don't we? shifty.gif
Jagger
When I have kids, I'll make sure to beat them with a cane. That's the only way to discipline kids these days.
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