RogerFederer
Oct 24 2006, 02:44 AM
I don't know why some Korea want to claim other's land.
Sea of Japan -> East Sea (How many East Sea in the World)
East Sea (China) -> South Sea
Yellow Sea -> West Sea
Korea is a SELF-CENTRED race.
sekushii
Oct 24 2006, 02:54 AM
Korea never claimed Manchuria.
heavymetalsamurai
Oct 24 2006, 03:27 AM
actually china is apart of manchuria, but I wont go into that...
kunomchu
Oct 24 2006, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(heavymetalsamurai @ Oct 24 2006, 04:27 AM)

actually china is apart of manchuria, but I wont go into that...

please do enlighten us on the great people's republic of manchuria
RogerFederer
Oct 24 2006, 03:30 AM
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Oct 24 2006, 03:28 AM)

please do enlighten us on the great people's republic of manchuria

Imperial Japanese Empire is a rubbish evil empire.
Mua
Oct 24 2006, 08:17 AM
idiot !!no korean claims manchuria except for a few freaks...the only claims are cultural ones and those are totally justified you prick!
Titanium
Oct 24 2006, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(heavymetalsamurai @ Oct 24 2006, 03:27 AM)

actually china is apart of manchuria, but I wont go into that...

Which is fine with us as long as the two lands are connected and within our jurisdiction.
Ino_II
Oct 24 2006, 08:53 PM
I dont think any Korean says MANCHURIA is korea's land... it belongs to China currently.
HanulSky
Oct 24 2006, 08:56 PM
QUOTE(Mua @ Oct 24 2006, 11:17 AM)

idiot !!no korean claims manchuria except for a few freaks...the only claims are cultural ones and those are totally justified you prick!
I agree with Mua. Gojosoen had cultural ties to manchuria, but that was 4,000 years ago.
Mid-Night_Sun
Oct 24 2006, 08:56 PM
this is so dumb...some random fool is going to make a thread and say some stupid shyt like that. he doesnt even have quotes or proof ANYONE has claimed anything.
he skips that and goes and proves w/e the fuk. then some people are going to come and actually argue. (actually, its amazing there are serious posts) its so unbelievable its midly amusing.
T98G
Oct 24 2006, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Ino_II @ Oct 24 2006, 08:53 PM)

I dont think any Korean says MANCHURIA is korea's land... it belongs to China currently.
Why the word currently
ekkenergy
Oct 24 2006, 08:59 PM
QUOTE(HanulSky @ Oct 24 2006, 08:56 PM)

I agree with Mua. Gojosoen had cultural ties to manchuria, but that was 4,000 years ago.
Korea has 4,000 year history?
donthateonboca
Oct 24 2006, 09:03 PM
yes korea is one of the oldest civilizations according to wikipedia.
HanulSky
Oct 24 2006, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(donthateonboca @ Oct 25 2006, 12:03 AM)

yes korea is one of the oldest civilizations according to wikipedia.
according to wikipedia, gojoseon came from the tungustic peoples.
QUOTE
The people of Gojoseon belonged to the Tungusic family and were linguistically affiliated with the Altaic. They propagated in Manchuria, far eastern China, north of the Yangtze River, and the Korean Peninsula. Gojoseon eventually consolidated in lower Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula. The people of Gojeoson were recorded as Dongyi (東夷) in Chinese, meaning ""eastern barbarians". The expression is also interpreted as "eastern bowmen", because 夷 consists of "弓" (bow) and "人" (man).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon
SagaciousLuDa
Oct 24 2006, 09:14 PM
use wikipedia as a source? LOL
donthateonboca
Oct 24 2006, 09:16 PM
wikis awesome man. why not. sure they have flaws but which website doesn't.
ekkenergy
Oct 24 2006, 09:17 PM
QUOTE(donthateonboca @ Oct 24 2006, 09:03 PM)

according to wikipedia.
when was korean written system invented? how was the first dynasty in korea founded?
Mid-Night_Sun
Oct 24 2006, 09:29 PM
you know what...i own manchuria...
kaizen
Oct 24 2006, 11:20 PM
And I own North pole.
MING-LOYALIST
Oct 24 2006, 11:25 PM
Manchuria is northeast China.
As sekushii said Koreans don't have a claim on manchuria nor do they claim it.
This thread is absolutely pointless.
northwestern_student
Oct 25 2006, 01:00 AM
how about we drive out all the chinese from manchuria and let it become it's own country
kunomchu
Oct 25 2006, 01:09 AM
how about we close this retarded thread. Mods?
MING-LOYALIST
Oct 25 2006, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Oct 25 2006, 01:00 AM)

how about we drive out all the chinese from manchuria and let it become it's own country

How about you cut your d!ck off so it can be independent organ.
kaiwen
Oct 25 2006, 01:44 AM
China is not Korea
Konji
Oct 25 2006, 03:24 AM
fu-k you all. of course manchuria was part of dongyi. And it was part of the japanese empire in the 1800s century. before that it was not sinicized. they had their own language, which is manchurian.
of course now none of them speak manchurian anymore, it's a dead fu-ken language. geez. I hate the chinese. trying to erase peoples cultures by making everyone chinese.
Manchuria should be an independent state. they have no cultural links to chinese culture. so fu-k free manchuria.
deep impact
Oct 25 2006, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(Konji @ Oct 25 2006, 03:24 AM)

fu-k you all. of course manchuria was part of dongyi. And it was part of the japanese empire. Manchuria should be an independent state. they have no cultural links to chinese culture. so fu-k free manchuria.
dong-yi shares a cultural sphere with korea.
Konji
Oct 25 2006, 03:31 AM
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Oct 25 2006, 02:00 AM)

how about we drive out all the chinese from manchuria and let it become it's own country

yes, but it's too late, only a handful of people speak manchurian.
deep impact
Oct 25 2006, 03:50 AM
QUOTE(Konji @ Oct 25 2006, 03:31 AM)

yes, but it's too late, only a handful of people speak manchurian.
hah? what are you getting? aren't we talking about history?
Konji
Oct 25 2006, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(deep impact @ Oct 25 2006, 04:50 AM)

hah? what are you getting? aren't we talking about history?
i was just responding to northwestern. he said to chase chinese people out of manchuria, but manchurians don't speak manchurian anymore. After they became assimulated to china, the new generations only speak mandarin chinese fluently, so they are basically speak mandarin, write in mandarin... So it's like you can't turn back the clock.
grunt
Oct 25 2006, 09:04 AM
QUOTE(Konji @ Oct 25 2006, 04:57 AM)

i was just responding to northwestern. he said to chase chinese people out of manchuria, but manchurians don't speak manchurian anymore. After they became assimulated to china, the new generations only speak mandarin chinese fluently, so they are basically speak mandarin, write in mandarin... So it's like you can't turn back the clock.
i'll have to agree with Konji. Manchurians are different ethnic people from han chinese. China systematically destroyed the culture and language of manchurians. Now, there is no more manchurians in the region. In a sense, this is more cruel than some facism regin such as nazi or stalinism. In canada, when british conquered french Qubec, they at least let the french preserve their culture and language. Actually, it's pretty insulting that chinese just erased all the memory of manchurian culture and language.
MadGhoul
Oct 25 2006, 09:41 AM
what the fu-k are you idiots babbling about, nothing would've happened to the Manchurians if they didn't invade China and set up the Qing dynasty. Manchurians willingly took up the culture and the language because they knew that the only way to rule China was to adopt its culture, which doesn't mean that they forgot theirs. thats why the Manchus succeeded and the Mongols failed in the Yuan Dynasty.
and not only that, Manchurians still speak Manchurian specifically in Heilongjin. my friend is Manju and he speaks it and was bred and born there. as a matter of fact there are schools their that preserve it and teach it and right now there is a resurgence in Manchu culture which the government does not object to.
so go fu-k yourselves for talking out of your @$$
Suren911
Oct 25 2006, 10:18 AM
tons of manchus alive and well nowadays. the culture is quite alive and so is the language.
Morgan25
Oct 25 2006, 10:50 AM
"The Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, which is under the direct jurisdiction of the Chinese government, asserts that the history of not only the ancient Korean kingdom of Koguryo but also of Gija-Chosun, Puyo and Barhae all belong to Chinese history, and so do their territories."
Who's claiming who's land now?
Whoever started this thread probably agrees with CASS and must be some demented Chinese nationalist. This is worse than the France/Germany deal with Alsace-Lorraine.
Titanium
Oct 25 2006, 04:49 PM
The Manchus chose to get involved in China. They were the ones who invaded and started their own dynasty so now I ask of you, how is it even logical to accuse the Chinese of being imperialistic towards the Manchus?
Oh and BTW according to professor Endymion Wilkinson, the Dongyi peoples were actually Austronesian speaking peoples who inhabited eastern coastal China. Just some food for thought.
Cha
Oct 26 2006, 07:51 AM
I met a Chosunjok travel guide. He owned part of Manchuria.
bigboy
Oct 26 2006, 09:11 PM
didn't korea control most of manchuria in the kingdom times? Iono, i'm not very good with history. I think i've seen a map though.
Konji
Oct 26 2006, 09:48 PM
what does manchurian sound like? I never heard manchurian before.
LiaodongProvince(Josen)
Oct 26 2006, 09:57 PM
QUOTE(bigboy @ Oct 26 2006, 09:11 PM)

didn't korea control most of manchuria in the kingdom times? Iono, i'm not very good with history. I think i've seen a map though.
maybe in your dream?

j/k
kunomchu
Oct 26 2006, 09:58 PM
QUOTE(Konji @ Oct 25 2006, 04:24 AM)

fu-k you all. of course manchuria was part of dongyi. And it was part of the japanese empire in the 1800s century. before that it was not sinicized. they had their own language, which is manchurian.
of course now none of them speak manchurian anymore, it's a dead fu-ken language. geez. I hate the chinese. trying to erase peoples cultures by making everyone chinese.
Manchuria should be an independent state. they have no cultural links to chinese culture. so fu-k free manchuria.
lo you are dumbass.
LVF
Oct 26 2006, 10:06 PM
another Tibet case?
LiaodongProvince(Josen)
Oct 26 2006, 10:07 PM
nkekr
Oct 26 2006, 10:08 PM
QUOTE(Konji @ Oct 25 2006, 03:24 AM)

fu-k you all. of course manchuria was part of dongyi. And it was part of the japanese empire in the 1800s century. before that it was not sinicized. they had their own language, which is manchurian.
of course now none of them speak manchurian anymore, it's a dead fu-ken language. geez. I hate the chinese. trying to erase peoples cultures by making everyone chinese.
Manchuria should be an independent state. they have no cultural links to chinese culture. so fu-k free manchuria.
How about fu-k no? And it's not called fu-king "Manchuria," get that fu-king straight first, aight? Our region is called DONGBEI, NOT SOME DOG$hit WESTERN NAME CALLED "Manchuria." Dong Yi my @$$. Part of japanese empire MY @$$, by the way, you should check your own history. Dongbei is part of China, you Koreans of ALL people have the LEAST say in how we DongBei Ren define ourselves. 100% Chinese baby, fu-k yeah!
kunomchu
Oct 26 2006, 10:17 PM
Shes the same idiot that said chinese names are ugly. Idiot troll
LVF
Oct 26 2006, 10:23 PM
QUOTE(LiaodongProvince(Josen) @ Oct 26 2006, 11:07 PM)

yea lol thanks
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Oct 26 2006, 11:17 PM)

Shes the same idiot that said chinese names are ugly. Idiot troll

I hope you're not talking about me. I never said that.
kunomchu
Oct 26 2006, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(LVF @ Oct 26 2006, 11:23 PM)


I hope you're not talking about me. I never said that.
not u lol
Konji
donthateonboca
Oct 26 2006, 10:27 PM
QUOTE(LiaodongProvince(Josen) @ Oct 26 2006, 06:57 PM)

maybe in your dream?

j/k
go show off chinese dominance somwhere else?
Error101
Oct 26 2006, 10:44 PM
are you guys f--king serious?
some random dude said some stupid f--k. so what?
pls get the facts right also...aight? f--king ridiculous.....
Jasel
Oct 27 2006, 12:04 AM
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