Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: First female circumcision in US?
Asia Finest Discussion Forum > Asian Culture > Other Culture
kingofloss
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/27/female.c...=rss_topstories

QUOTE


LAWRENCEVILLE, Georgia (AP) -- The trial of an Atlanta-area father accused of circumcising his 2-year-old daughter with scissors is focusing attention on an ancient African practice that experts say is slowly becoming more common in the U.S. as immigrant communities grow.

Khalid Adem, a 30-year-old immigrant from Ethiopia, is charged with aggravated battery and cruelty to children.

Human rights observers said they believe this is the first criminal case in the U.S. involving the 5,000-year-old practice.

Prosecutors say Adem used scissors to remove his daughter's clitoris in their apartment in 2001. The child's mother said she did not discover it until more than a year later.

"He said he wanted to preserve her virginity," Fortunate Adem, the girl's mother, testified this week. "He said it was the will of God. I became angry in my mind. I thought he was crazy."

The girl, now 7, also testified, clutching a teddy bear and saying that her father "cut me on my private part." Adem cried loudly as his daughter left the courtroom.

Testifying on his own behalf Friday, Adem said he never circumcised his daughter or asked anyone else to do so. He said he grew up in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, and considers the practice more prevalent in rural areas.

Adem, who removed a handkerchief from his pocket and cried at one point during his testimony, was asked what he thought of someone who believes in the practice. He replied: "The word I can say is `mind in the gutter.' He is a moron."

His lawyer, Mark Hill, acknowledged that Adem's daughter had been cut. But he implied that the family of Fortunate Adem, who immigrated from South Africa when she was 6, may have had the procedure done.

The Adems divorced in 2003, and Hill suggested that the couple's daughter was encouraged to testify against her father by her mother, who has full custody.

If convicted, Adem, a clerk at a suburban Atlanta gas station, could get up to 40 years in prison.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, using figures from the 1990 Census, estimated that 168,000 girls and women in the U.S. had undergone the procedure or were at risk of being subjected to it.

The State Department estimates that up to 130 million women worldwide had undergone circumcision as of 2001. Knives, razors or even sharp stones are usually used, according to a 2001 department report. The tools often are not sterilized, and often, many girls are circumcised at the same ceremony, leading to infection.

It is unknown how many girls have died from the procedure, either during the cutting or from infections, or years later in childbirth.

Nightmares, depression, shock and feelings of betrayal are common psychological side effects, according to the federal report.

The report estimated that 73 percent of women in Ethiopia had undergone the procedure, based on a 1997 survey.

Taina Bien-Aime, executive director of Equality Now, an international human rights group, said female circumcision is most widely practiced in a 28-country swath of Africa. She said more than 90 percent of women in Ethiopia are believed to have been subjected to the practice, and more in places like Egypt and Somalia.

"It is a preparation for marriage," Bien-Aime said. "If the girl is not circumcised, her chances of being married are very slim."

The practice crosses ethnic and cultural lines and is not tied to a particular religion. Activists say the practice is intended to deny women sexual pleasure. In its most extreme form, the clitoris and parts of the labia are removed and the labia that remain are stitched together.

"I had maybe read about it in Reader's Digest or some other journal, but not really considered it a possibility here," said Dr. Rose Badaruddin, the pediatrician for the Adems' daughter.

Many refugees from Ethiopia and Somalia come to Georgia through a federal refugee resettlement program.

"With immigration, the immigrants travel with their traditions," Bien-Aime said. "Female genital mutilation is not an exception."

Federal law specifically bans the practice, but many states do not have a law addressing it. Georgia lawmakers, with the support of Fortunate Adem, passed an anti-mutilation law last year. Khalid Adem is not being tried under that law, since it did not exist when his daughter's cutting allegedly happened.




And the oppression of women continues...
Jor
QUOTE(kingofloss @ Oct 27 2006, 09:28 PM) *

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/27/female.c...=rss_topstories
And the oppression of women continues...


I don't see $hit wrong with it. They cut off part of the male's penis when he's too young to refuse and nobody seems to think that's wrong or stupid so why shouldn't they cut females too? Welcome to the wonderful world of equality.
Metropolitan
QUOTE(Jor @ Oct 27 2006, 09:38 PM) *

I don't see $hit wrong with it. They cut off part of the male's penis when he's too young to refuse and nobody seems to think that's wrong or stupid so why shouldn't they cut females too? Welcome to the wonderful world of equality.


Her clitorial gland got cut off, not just the hood. How would you like it if somebody cut off your mushroom head along with the foreskin Talktohand.gif
Jor
QUOTE(Metropolitan @ Oct 27 2006, 09:40 PM) *

Her clitorial gland got cut off, not just the hood. How would you like it if somebody cut off your mushroom head along with the foreskin Talktohand.gif


That's pretty much what happens. I'm not circumcized and the sight of circumcised d!cks are shocking to me. Utterly unnatural. Like a chewed-up piece of bubblegum. It's disgusting. Sorry, but I see no difference between male and female circumcision and I am not going to listen how it's worse for females. Bull$hit. There have been infant boys who got their d!cks literally burnt off because of that stupid crap. How's it any different especially when neither child gets a say in it. If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for the other.
triplex
it is proven through health science that the circumsition of male sex organ is for hygienic health reasons but what i heard is that when a female circumcise her clitoris she will be less horny.. dunno if its true... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Takashi
QUOTE(Jor @ Oct 28 2006, 02:03 AM) *

That's pretty much what happens. I'm not circumcized and the sight of circumcised d!cks are shocking to me. Utterly unnatural. Like a chewed-up piece of bubblegum. It's disgusting. Sorry, but I see no difference between male and female circumcision and I am not going to listen how it's worse for females. Bull$hit. There have been infant boys who got their d!cks literally burnt off because of that stupid crap. How's it any different especially when neither child gets a say in it. If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for the other.

Thats not pretty much what happens at all unless the surgeon completely fu-ks it up.
Some people are so ignorant.
There are several different types of female circumcision, some of which involve burning the genitals and tearing the vagina. As for a clitoridectomy, that removes the main organ of sexual pleasure resulting in constantly painful sex whereas with male circumcision no-one seeks to do that, granted the nerve endings may get damaged and sexual pleasure may decrease but thats hardly the same thing is it icon_rolleyes.gif
Then you have infibulation which I'm not even going to describe myself, I'll copy and paste:

'The form of female circumcision regarded as the most severe is Type III, which is also referred to as infibulation or pharaonic circumcision. This is often carried out by a "gedda," or matron of the village, without anaesthetic, on girls between the ages of two and six.

Infibulation replaces the vulva with a wall of flesh from the pubis to the anus, except for a pencil-size opening at the inferior portion of the vulva to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through. A reverse infibulation is where the opening is left in the anterior part of the vulva in front of the urethra. After excision, the labia are sewn together, and since the skin is abraded and raw after being cut, the two surfaces will join via the natural healing and scar-formation process to form a smooth surface. The girl's legs are tied together for around two weeks to prevent her from moving the wound.

The sewn-together labia majora are slightly opened before sexual intercourse by the girl's husband — girls will often be married at 12–16 years old — or by his female relatives, whose responsibility it is to inspect the wound every few weeks and open it some more if necessary.

During childbirth, the enlargement is too small to allow vaginal delivery, and so the infibulation must be opened completely and restored after delivery. Once again, the legs are tied together to allow the wound to heal, and the procedure is repeated for each subsequent act of intercourse or childbirth. When childbirth takes place in a hospital, the surgeons may preserve the infibulation by enlarging the vagina with deep episiotomies. Afterwards, the patient may insist that her vagina be closed again so that her husband does not reject her.

This practice is reported to cause the disappearance of sexual pleasure for the women affected, as well as major medical complications, although advocates of the practice deny this, and continue to carry it out.'

The fact that someone can do that to another human being is vile.


QUOTE(triplex @ Oct 29 2006, 04:09 PM) *

it is proven through health science that the circumsition of male sex organ is for hygienic health reasons but what i heard is that when a female circumcise her clitoris she will be less horny.. dunno if its true... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No point to it.
rahul1000
I'm not circumsiced and circumcising a penis doesn't result in better hygiene, just clean your penis regularly like a normal fu-king human being and there's no problem, I see absolutely no point in circumscision, but thats just me.
Mizz_Luv3r
^Some guys are too lazy to peel their foreskin back to clean it. Thus, it harbors germs and etc.
ham_let
QUOTE(Jor @ Oct 27 2006, 10:38 PM) *

I don't see $hit wrong with it. They cut off part of the male's penis when he's too young to refuse and nobody seems to think that's wrong or stupid so why shouldn't they cut females too? Welcome to the wonderful world of equality.

huh? the equivalent would be cutting off the entire head of the penis, wouldn't it? that's very different from cutting off foreskin, no?
C. Zhu
What can you expect from Africans.
Jagger
QUOTE(Mizz_Luv3r @ Oct 29 2006, 04:50 PM) *

^Some guys are too lazy to peel their foreskin back to clean it. Thus, it harbors germs and etc.

Lazy boys deserve to be circumcised.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.