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this guy is such a douchebag , recons women are only them selfs to blame for rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6086374.stm

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/...im_leaderas.php

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“A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world. Why? No-one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world … ,”


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“Strapless, backless, sleeveless, nothing but satanic skirts, slit skirts, translucent blouses, mini skirts, tight jeans: all this to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature.”
radha_chopra112
Is he from India?

And yeah quite a douchebag, luckily no one takes him seriously.
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Oct 29 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]2436413[/snapback]

this guy is such a douchebag , recons women are only them selfs to blame for rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6086374.stm

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/...im_leaderas.php

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????
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QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Oct 30 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]2436476[/snapback]

Is he from India?

And yeah quite a douchebag, luckily no one takes him seriously.


hes from lebanon and he causeing quite a stir in Australia

QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 30 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????


there are reason women show ts oheir bodiether then to attract men like fashion maybe they like what they wear some cloths are atractive some arnt, the african tribes topless women and they dont do it to atract men its cus the wether is hot (or maybe they do it to be on the discovey channel icon_confused.gif )
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 29 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????

Attention and Rape are two totally different things.


Anyways, the Muslim Sheikh who said those comments is a despicable person.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 29 2006, 11:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????



ha ha ha lol laugh.gif lol3.gif



You have a great aptitude for very dry humor, if one didn't know your posting history. They could almost take you seriously. Tsk tsk. biggrin.gif
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 29 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????


What nonsense! Who in their sick minds would go do that? Just because women decide to wear a certain type of clothing doesn't mean that would justify rape!

I am pretty sure that the clothing of ancient indian women are more than provacative!
radha_chopra112
true and they only started covering up after the islamic invasion, so they wouldn't be raped by the invaders. bawling.gif
Tenjikuronin
Generally speaking, humans in their natural state are naked. Henceforth it is wrong to assume that clothing justifies rape.
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like the african tribes

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radha_chopra112
yep, nudity needs to come back in style. only for non-fat people, oh and non-old people. Yeah, no old people should participate! eek.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Oct 29 2006, 10:28 PM) [snapback]2436593[/snapback]

Attention and Rape are two totally different things.




True. Something is seriously wrong with you if you enjoy having sex with a woman that's screaming for help and telling you to stop. I don't believe in the "testosterone kicks in, so they can't help themselves" BS.

I'm sure there are tons of times where people have gotten horny during class, during work, in the mandir, in the masjid...How come they just don't go at it right then and there? Because they're able to control themselves at the moment.

If you really wanted to have sex with a tempting woman for pleasure, there are other ways of going about it instead of raping her right there against her will.

A mentally healthy man would obviously feel guilty if he raped someone. I think true rapists would rape you regardless of what you wore. I think rape is more of a power issue.
jatt_with_gutts

y god made males more powerfull and more active and females less powerfull and docile in every species found in this mother earth...???????? biggrin.gif
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 30 2006, 07:00 AM) [snapback]2437475[/snapback]

y god made males more powerfull and more active and females less powerfull and docile in every species found in this mother earth...???????? biggrin.gif

Uh, that's not true either. In many species, the female is more powerful than the male. Take for example Elephants, which have a matrilinear society.

Also, even in humans there are some cultures where the female is viewed as dominant. Take for example the Hopi and other such Native Americans in the southwestern portion of the U.S.A. In their culture, men are viewed as the weaker sex.....
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 30 2006, 10:00 AM) [snapback]2437475[/snapback]

y god made males more powerfull and more active and females less powerfull and docile in every species found in this mother earth...???????? biggrin.gif


NOT TRUE. Hyenas are a perfect example. Females are the dominant speciment while the males are docile.
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 29 2006, 11:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????

that's right! that's why all bollywood actors and actresses, all women and INCLUDE MEN cuz we don't want to get raped by homosexuals as well, should wear full body suits like those sand people in Star Wars to prevent rape. we should all stay in our houses and lock all our doors.

that's the most ridiculous claim ever. i never know the sheik was into rapist right advocacy campaign. there are laws, hold your breeches down, or work on yourself so you don't have to go desperate and rape some chic.
Jagger
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Oct 30 2006, 02:26 AM) [snapback]2436413[/snapback]

this guy is such a douchebag , recons women are only them selfs to blame for rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6086374.stm

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/...im_leaderas.php

This really doesn't have anything to do with India.

QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 30 2006, 03:07 AM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????

They like attention, not rape.

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Oct 30 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]2437183[/snapback]

A mentally healthy man would obviously feel guilty if he raped someone. I think true rapists would rape you regardless of what you wore. I think rape is more of a power issue.

It's not a power issue, they're just horny little bastards. But it's still very unlikely they would get horny over a woman they don't find attractive.

QUOTE(kkdkckrl @ Oct 30 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]2437577[/snapback]

NOT TRUE. Hyenas are a perfect example. Females are the dominant speciment while the males are docile.

I think spiders are a better example. The females can get bigger and even get to eat the males. munch.gif
purple
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Oct 30 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]2436413[/snapback]

this guy is such a douchebag , recons women are only them selfs to blame for rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6086374.stm

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/...im_leaderas.php


the 2nd one was an Australian sh. from lebanon, and that happened early last year, so i don't know why your linking that here.

the 1st one is what happened recently. his talk was about adultry not rape.

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous," Mr Howard told reporters.

the idea that he actually blames women for rapes is preposterous. the sheikh was taken out of context, he has explained his comments and anyone who doesn't believe it is a douchbag and we might as well close our minds off, believe everything the media tells us and walk around like brainwashed zombies.
Kiss_the_Girls
QUOTE(purple @ Oct 31 2006, 07:06 AM) [snapback]2438184[/snapback]

the 2nd one was an Australian sh. from lebanon, and that happened early last year, so i don't know why your linking that here.

the 1st one is what happened recently. his talk was about adultry not rape.

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous," Mr Howard told reporters.

the idea that he actually blames women for rapes is preposterous. the sheikh was taken out of context, he has explained his comments and anyone who doesn't believe it is a douchbag and we might as well close our minds off, believe everything the media tells us and walk around like brainwashed zombies.


LMAO LMAO LMAO sure.gif sure.gif Talktohand.gif

This is not the first time his used the "ooh i was minsinterpreted by the MEDIA" excuse..His been here for f.cking 20 years he should be able to carry out speeches in English...
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QUOTE(Jagger @ Oct 31 2006, 06:51 AM) [snapback]2437957[/snapback]

This really doesn't have anything to do with India.


there might be some muslim indians who might want to comment on this

QUOTE(purple @ Oct 31 2006, 08:36 AM) [snapback]2438184[/snapback]

the 2nd one was an Australian sh. from lebanon, and that happened early last year, so i don't know why your linking that here.

the 1st one is what happened recently. his talk was about adultry not rape.

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous," Mr Howard told reporters.

the idea that he actually blames women for rapes is preposterous. the sheikh was taken out of context, he has explained his comments and anyone who doesn't believe it is a douchbag and we might as well close our minds off, believe everything the media tells us and walk around like brainwashed zombies.



he admited and apologised for his comments it wasnt minsinterpreted by the media (but won't resign)

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,4057,20645635-2,00.html

^^in this site
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Five Muslim leaders at Gallipoli Mosque in Sydney's west said many Muslims were "sick and tired" of religious leaders like Sheik Alhilali claiming to speak on their behalf.
radha_chopra112
I'm sure there are Indonesian, Malaysian muslims who wanna comment too. And it makes more sense since those are majority muslim countries, and India isn't. biggrin.gif And there is always "Other Cultures" sections. icon_smile.gif
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QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:49 PM) [snapback]2439037[/snapback]

I'm sure there are Indonesian, Malaysian muslims who wanna comment too. And it makes more sense since those are majority muslim countries, and India isn't. biggrin.gif And there is always "Other Cultures" sections. icon_smile.gif


i wanted your opinion's icon_smile.gif
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Oct 30 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]2439306[/snapback]

i wanted your opinion's icon_smile.gif


Cool. My opinion is any man who advocates that women deserve to be raped, should spend a few nights in a cell with Deebo. Then see, if they feel the same way! bawling.gif icon_twisted.gif


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lol icon_smile.gif
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Oct 30 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]2439325[/snapback]

Cool. My opinion is any man who advocates that women deserve to be raped, should spend a few nights in a cell with Deebo. Then see, if they feel the same way! bawling.gif icon_twisted.gif
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Your signature pictures are disturbing. eek.gif
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Oct 31 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]2439394[/snapback]

Your signature pictures are disturbing. eek.gif


lol, it's Brokeback Mountain, w/ Jake Gyllenhaal & Heath Ledger. Jake is my favorite actor ever since Donnie Darko. The other one is a doctored Spiderman scene. biggrin.gif
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Oct 30 2006, 11:08 PM) [snapback]2439394[/snapback]

Your signature pictures are disturbing. eek.gif


I was so about to say that! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I typed "Your Signature is disturbing" and then decided to not to! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif , cuz then she might have called me homophobic or something icon_confused.gif , but its good that you said it! embarassedlaugh.gif



I have actually disabled my signature viewing cuz of the picture !
radha_chopra112
Really? No I wouldn't call you homophobic! biggrin.gif I just got it cause I liked jake! bawling.gif

Don't worry I'll get rid of it in a few weeks! embarassedlaugh.gif


And I'll tell you when I get rid of it, so you can turn your viewing back on! icon_smile.gif
purple
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Oct 31 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]2438876[/snapback]

there might be some muslim indians who might want to comment on this
he admited and apologised for his comments it wasnt minsinterpreted by the media (but won't resign)

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,4057,20645635-2,00.html

^^in this site


i read that article he didn't admit to anything. he apologised for any offence he caused but still maintained that he was misunderstood
ACMILAN1983
Brokeback Mountain was pretty good, am very curious to see Heath Ledger play a role as Joker in The Dark Knight.

As for the topic, all I have to say is it's a stupid comment.
Jagger
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Oct 31 2006, 05:40 AM) [snapback]2439556[/snapback]

Really? No I wouldn't call you homophobic! biggrin.gif I just got it cause I liked jake! bawling.gif

Don't worry I'll get rid of it in a few weeks! embarassedlaugh.gif
And I'll tell you when I get rid of it, so you can turn your viewing back on! icon_smile.gif

A few weeks is too long!

QUOTE(purple @ Oct 31 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]2439887[/snapback]

i read that article he didn't admit to anything. he apologised for any offence he caused but still maintained that he was misunderstood

As far as I know, he didn't mention anything about rape or sexual assault, so he probably was referring to adultery.
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QUOTE(purple @ Oct 31 2006, 09:54 PM) [snapback]2439887[/snapback]

i read that article he didn't admit to anything. he apologised for any offence he caused but still maintained that he was misunderstood


why would he apologise if he didnt do anything wrong, he would have explain to everyone what he was tring to say even most all the muslim community is tring to get him to resign as well as the leaders and his best friend
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Oct 30 2006, 08:54 PM) [snapback]2439475[/snapback]

lol, it's Brokeback Mountain, w/ Jake Gyllenhaal & Heath Ledger. Jake is my favorite actor ever since Donnie Darko. The other one is a doctored Spiderman scene. biggrin.gif

Lol, oh ok. I thought you simply hated Tobey McGuire......
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(Jagger @ Oct 31 2006, 07:50 AM) [snapback]2439929[/snapback]

A few weeks is too long!
As far as I know, he didn't mention anything about rape or sexual assault, so he probably was referring to adultery.


Ok! I changed it! bawling.gif

QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Oct 31 2006, 11:25 PM) [snapback]2441684[/snapback]

Lol, oh ok. I thought you simply hated Tobey McGuire......


Gasp! I luv Tobey! love2.gif Yeah, they do look alike! Jake has better bone structure. icon_smile.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 2 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]2444725[/snapback]

Ok! I changed it! bawling.gif

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aparently Sheikh is gonna ducktape his mouth for a whole month or something for what he said
radha_chopra112
really, sewing would be better. where did he say that?
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on the news
ExpressYourself
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It's not a power issue, they're just horny little bastards. But it's still very unlikely they would get horny over a woman they don't find attractive.



Did you see that Australian video, where the guys were abusing the girl?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKqcGyE_WJ8



Notice how they say, "She's the ugliest thing I have ever seen," but proceed to engage in sexual acts with her. Some people would ask, "Why would you get a blowjob from a girl you find ugly?" I think video was a case where immature boys wanted to OVERPOWER and humiliate someone, and they knew they could do it with one female.

Sexually violating and beating up a woman is an effective way of making a woman feel really bad about herself. So, I think people like this enjoy making their victim suffer and that makes them feel powerful? A lot of people are horny, but they would have some remorse.



But, some teenage boys are notorious for being blind sheep and will call anything "ugly". They will do anything to make other people feel bad, to desperately fit in, or to feel that they're "higher" than the other person. Maybe some of the boys in that group did secretly find her attractive, but wanted to make her feel as lousy as possible. Everybody knows that women are appearance-conscious, so calling a teenage girl ugly is another effective way to put a female down and make her feel "lower." I did hear about an abusive husband that would frequently tell his beautiful wife that she was ugly, because it made him feel in control of her.




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ive seen that on the news but they wornt allowed to show that part of the movie at that time, that was realy cruel thats why you just shouldnt trust random weirdos on the internet
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(-=(-_-)=- HI-hit @ Nov 3 2006, 09:08 PM) [snapback]2449744[/snapback]

ive seen that on the news but they wornt allowed to show that part of the movie at that time, that was realy cruel thats why you just shouldnt trust random weirdos on the internet


I thought she went to school with one of the guys?

But you know how the teenage years are- People get excited if the opposite sex is paying attention to them, especially if you're mentally handicapped........so maybe that's why she was eager to meet the boy.
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yeah
gula_jawa
Sexual assault victim voices support for Al Hilali

3:42 PM November 4

A woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted has come out in support of Muslim cleric Sheikh Taj el-Din Al Hilali at the Lakemba Mosque in Sydney today.

Sheikh Al Hilali and a small group of his supporters were at the mosque today for a funeral service.
After the service he introduced a woman to the media, Cindy Taylor, who says she is from a Melbourne-based victims' support group.
She claims to have been sexually assaulted twice

She says she came to Sydney to declare her support for the sheikh who she describes as a wonderful man.
Ms Taylor says recent comments he made about women inviting sexual assault have been blown out of proportion.
"He believes that the act of rape is one of the worst crimes most capital in Islam and the most barbarian act," she said.
"Anyone that would perpetrate such a crime should be considered an animal - which is where the [speech's] analogy came from."

Yesterday, Sheikh Al Hilali lashed out at the media and called on the Islamic community to stop talking to journalists.
He also issued a statement saying he had asked the Australian Federal Imams Board to take nominations for a new mufti, but declined to say if he would seek re-appointment.
Last night, the sheikh asked his supporters call off a rally scheduled to take place in Sydney today.
He told worshipers at the Lakemba Mosque he was concerned any rally in support of him could attract violence.
Source: ABC

http://cable.optusnet.com.au/news/story/ab...tic/1781252.inp

jiggyiggy
QUOTE(jatt_with_gutts @ Oct 29 2006, 11:07 PM) [snapback]2436524[/snapback]

i think he is right....y women show their bodies to attract men if they dont want attention of opposite sex?????????


Wearing a short skirt isn't going, "Hello, I would like you to rape me."

And don't pretend you don't like taking a peep at a chicks cleavage or legs :p
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 4 2006, 01:43 AM) [snapback]2449679[/snapback]

Did you see that Australian video, where the guys were abusing the girl?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKqcGyE_WJ8
Notice how they say, "She's the ugliest thing I have ever seen," but proceed to engage in sexual acts with her. Some people would ask, "Why would you get a blowjob from a girl you find ugly?" I think video was a case where immature boys wanted to OVERPOWER and humiliate someone, and they knew they could do it with one female.

Sexually violating and beating up a woman is an effective way of making a woman feel really bad about herself. So, I think people like this enjoy making their victim suffer and that makes them feel powerful? A lot of people are horny, but they would have some remorse.

But, some teenage boys are notorious for being blind sheep and will call anything "ugly". They will do anything to make other people feel bad, to desperately fit in, or to feel that they're "higher" than the other person. Maybe some of the boys in that group did secretly find her attractive, but wanted to make her feel as lousy as possible. Everybody knows that women are appearance-conscious, so calling a teenage girl ugly is another effective way to put a female down and make her feel "lower." I did hear about an abusive husband that would frequently tell his beautiful wife that she was ugly, because it made him feel in control of her.

Well I just said it was "unlikely", not impossible. In most cases, sexual assault is usually motivated by a lack of control over one's sexual desires. In some cases, like that one, it probably is a power issue. People like that are just saddistic; they feel pleasure from inflicting pain on others. Let's hope they get butt-raped in prison by a big Bubba Joe. If not, then I'll just butt-rape them myself.

QUOTE(gula_jawa @ Nov 4 2006, 06:20 AM) [snapback]2450348[/snapback]

Sexual assault victim voices support for Al Hilali

3:42 PM November 4

A woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted has come out in support of Muslim cleric Sheikh Taj el-Din Al Hilali at the Lakemba Mosque in Sydney today.

Sheikh Al Hilali and a small group of his supporters were at the mosque today for a funeral service.
After the service he introduced a woman to the media, Cindy Taylor, who says she is from a Melbourne-based victims' support group.
She claims to have been sexually assaulted twice

She says she came to Sydney to declare her support for the sheikh who she describes as a wonderful man.
Ms Taylor says recent comments he made about women inviting sexual assault have been blown out of proportion.
"He believes that the act of rape is one of the worst crimes most capital in Islam and the most barbarian act," she said.
"Anyone that would perpetrate such a crime should be considered an animal - which is where the [speech's] analogy came from."

Yesterday, Sheikh Al Hilali lashed out at the media and called on the Islamic community to stop talking to journalists.
He also issued a statement saying he had asked the Australian Federal Imams Board to take nominations for a new mufti, but declined to say if he would seek re-appointment.
Last night, the sheikh asked his supporters call off a rally scheduled to take place in Sydney today.
He told worshipers at the Lakemba Mosque he was concerned any rally in support of him could attract violence.
Source: ABC

http://cable.optusnet.com.au/news/story/ab...tic/1781252.inp

This seems similar to what happened with the Pope before, who was quoting someone else. The only time the Sheikh mentioned "rape" was also when he was quoting someone else. It seems to be an issue of political correctness taken too far. But since he is a religious leader, he should be careful about offending other people. The media however seems to be jumping to conclusions about him referring to rape, even though he already said he was referring to adultery, and didn't actually mention the word "rape" himself. If Cindy Taylor really was a rape victim, then the media might calm down eventually.
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