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rahul1000
I was just wondering why India Chat was even created here. I mean, most people think of Asians as East Asians. And we're the most different group from all the other nationalities on this forum, everyone else is of east/south east asian descent, being Oriental, except for us.

Plus, we're one of the smallest groups here, so I was wondering why this India Chat was made in the first place? I keep feeling as though we don't belong here, we're too different and alienated from these other orientals.
Sirikittong
Thats not true! We south east asians find our indian bretheren as equals. South Asia, South East Asia, East Asia.

The corner stones of great civilizations. icon_wink.gif
Tenjikuronin
India Chat belongs here.
gangi788
I agree Indians don't belong here. If you feel like a misfit though, I suggest you stop posting on asiafinest for your most expedient remedy, as I think no one is going to close this chat.
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 09:21 AM) *

I agree Indians don't belong here. If you feel like a misfit though, I suggest you stop posting on asiafinest for your most expedient remedy, as I think no one is going to close this chat.

Why don't Indians belong here?
ACMILAN1983
India belong here as much as any other nation. It's pure stupidity when people say India isn't Asian.
Jaimu-Jaimu

When it's troll-free, it's one of the better cultural sections. icon_redface.gif
gangi788
^Really? Have you read some of the closed threads. I'm actually quite offended by some Indians trolls. Indians are really racist.
ExpressYourself
What if you're a South-East Asian that looks like an everyday Indian? icon_redface.gif

Does that mean you don't belong here? sure.gif







Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 10:52 AM) *

^Really? Have you read some of the closed threads. I'm actually quite offended by some Indians trolls. Indians are really racist.

Trolls are never representative of a race. sure.gif
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 03:06 PM) *

What if you're a South-East Asian that looks like an everyday Indian? icon_redface.gif

Does that mean you don't belong here? sure.gif

True, i got Filipino friends that look totaly indians embarassedlaugh.gif
nimbus
India chat belongs here just as much as any other cultural chat...only americans consider east and southeast asians as true "asians," while the rest of the world considers indians as asians as well. maybe that's why only americans even refer to east and southeast asians as "asian," while the rest of the world calls them oriental. and yes, i know it is offensive to call anyone oriental, i did not mean any offense...just making a point.

i'm getting really tired of hearing ppl whine about india chat being on this site. get over it. india is in asia, and therefore indians are asian. Asian is a geographical term, not a racial one.

and those racist threads were closed because they offended many ppl, not just east and southeast asians, but other races including other indians. to say all indians are racist based on a few threads is ridiculous considering there are racist threads in every cultural forum on this site.
Jagger
QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Nov 1 2006, 03:24 PM) *

I was just wondering why India Chat was even created here. I mean, most people think of Asians as East Asians. And we're the most different group from all the other nationalities on this forum, everyone else is of east/south east asian descent, being Oriental, except for us.

Plus, we're one of the smallest groups here, so I was wondering why this India Chat was made in the first place? I keep feeling as though we don't belong here, we're too different and alienated from these other orientals.

You should ask Ben why he created India Chat.

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 07:06 PM) *

What if you're a South-East Asian that looks like an everyday Indian? icon_redface.gif

Does that mean you don't belong here? sure.gif

Or if you're a Northeast Indian who looks East Asian. Should they be excluded too?
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(nimbus @ Nov 1 2006, 04:45 PM) *

India chat belongs here just as much as any other cultural chat...only americans consider east and southeast asians as true "asians," while the rest of the world considers indians as asians as well.



me and acmilan were talking about how america prides on diversity and acceptance, yet so many of them don't even want to consider us South Asians as "Asian." embarassedlaugh.gif

I'm happy with being American, but the hypocrisy is quite funny.
radha_chopra112
There's plenty of racist threads on Chinese chat, all chats have trolls. It just depends on who the mods are. sure.gif
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(nimbus @ Nov 1 2006, 08:45 PM) *

India chat belongs here just as much as any other cultural chat...only americans consider east and southeast asians as true "asians," while the rest of the world considers indians as asians as well. maybe that's why only americans even refer to east and southeast asians as "asian," while the rest of the world calls them oriental. and yes, i know it is offensive to call anyone oriental, i did not mean any offense...just making a point.

i'm getting really tired of hearing ppl whine about india chat being on this site. get over it. india is in asia, and therefore indians are asian. Asian is a geographical term, not a racial one.

and those racist threads were closed because they offended many ppl, not just east and southeast asians, but other races including other indians. to say all indians are racist based on a few threads is ridiculous considering there are racist threads in every cultural forum on this site.


Thank you, nice to see a post with common sense.

QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 09:06 PM) *

me and acmilan were talking about how america prides on diversity and acceptance, yet so many of them don't even want to consider us South Asians as "Asian." embarassedlaugh.gif

I'm happy with being American, but the hypocrisy is quite funny.


I remember talking about that, and I'm sure you remember how annoyed I get about that sort of crap because it's just ignorance.

QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 06:52 PM) *

^Really? Have you read some of the closed threads. I'm actually quite offended by some Indians trolls. Indians are really racist.


At this moment in time I only see one troll in this thread and guess who that is icon_wink.gif

gangi788
^A troll? Referring to yourself?

It's really a sorry state that Indians are in actually. Whites obviously don't accept them. East asians don't really either. I think Indians are in a kind of limbo. The thread starter really hit the mark on this one.

Also, Indians are probably some the most racist people out there. Many people complain that Koreans/Japanese are so xenophobic. I'd like to see a thread started here on Indian racism. I've met a number of Indian racists in real life that as well as reading the posts on this chat that makes me think that racism is pretty common among Indians.
Mizz_Luv3r
I love Indian people. love2.gif I would interact more in the Indian chats but some of the threads seem to always encircle topics that are just strictly for Indians. So, I tend to back off. On the other hand, I haven't really been exposed to authenic Indian culture aside from a few friends and Bollywood movies. embarassedlaugh.gif But, please know that you're wanted here.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 05:23 PM) *

^A troll? Referring to yourself?

It's really a sorry state that Indians are in actually. Whites obviously don't accept them. East asians don't really either. I think Indians are in a kind of limbo. The thread starter really hit the mark on this one.

Also, Indians are probably some the most racist people out there. Many people complain that Koreans/Japanese are so xenophobic. I'd like to see a thread started here on Indian racism. I've met a number of Indian racists in real life that as well as reading the posts on this chat that makes me think that racism is pretty common among Indians, even though they're always complaining that they're the victim of racism by Whites and others.


Whoever said we wanted wanted to be excepted by whites. India is more diverse than all of East Asia, but we're more racists? No the internet doesn't speak for 1billion people. Who's complaining about being victims of racism?

Right now, in India serious talk an Chinese poster ABC in NYC, just called Indians stanky/dirty. But should I stake that to mean all chinese are racist? confused.gif


And no one asked East Asians to accept us, we're South Asian and proud of it. As long as you don't feel you own the title of Asian exclusively. Besides South East Asians seem to like use fine. biggthumpup.gif

When people can chat online anonymously they will say some really stupid sh!t they would say in real life, that goes for everyone. icon_sad.gif

You can't say indians are anymore racist than chinese, whites or blacks. Everybody has issues.
Jagger
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 09:23 PM) *

^A troll? Referring to yourself?

It's really a sorry state that Indians are in actually. Whites obviously don't accept them. East asians don't really either. I think Indians are in a kind of limbo. The thread starter really hit the mark on this one.

Also, Indians are probably some the most racist people out there. Many people complain that Koreans/Japanese are so xenophobic. I'd like to see a thread started here on Indian racism. I've met a number of Indian racists in real life that as well as reading the posts on this chat that makes me think that racism is pretty common among Indians, even though they're always complaining that they're the victim of racism by Whites and others.

You can't generalize a billion people based on just a few you've met. Every race has its fair share of racist people, and people from every race whine about how they're the victims of racism or political correctness. How are Indians any different? India is one of the most diverse and multicultural countries in the world, and hence among the most tolerant (except for rural populations).
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ Nov 1 2006, 05:44 PM) *

You can't generalize a billion people based on just a few you've met. Every race has its fair share of racist people, and people from every race whine about how they're the victims of racism or political correctness. How are Indians any different? India is one of the most diverse and multicultural countries in the world, and hence among the most tolerant (except for rural populations).



And, you said that India introduced affirmative action, right? biggthumpup.gif


Racism my @$$. embarassedlaugh.gif
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(Mizz_Luv3r @ Nov 1 2006, 05:25 PM) *

I love Indian people. love2.gif I would interact more in the Indian chats but some of the threads seem to always encircle topics that are just strictly for Indians. So, I tend to back off. On the other hand, I haven't really been exposed to authenic Indian culture aside from a few friends and Bollywood movies. embarassedlaugh.gif But, please know that you're wanted here.



Hi. love2.gif

You should come here more often. Feel free to but in anytime. None of the topics are Indian exclusive, you can always ask questions. We need more sane people in this chat badly! biggrin.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 09:46 PM) *

And, you said that India introduced affirmative action, right? biggthumpup.gif
Racism my @$$. embarassedlaugh.gif

That's right, Western countries borrowed the concept of affirmative action from India, although a lot of people these days really don't like the idea of affirmative action (i.e. minorities having more slightly rights than the majority).
Najjiah
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 11:06 AM) *
What if you're a South-East Asian that looks like an everyday Indian? icon_redface.gif


im half indian that looks more indian than southeast asian. in fact nobody thinks i have chaptay blood. i thought af would be ideal place for me. id go to filo chat then here. of course eventually i really had not much to say in filo chat coz i dont know their history, politics, or celebs like i know indian stuff. im close to my dad, thats why.



but bein in here i oftentimes feel unwelcome. the trolls & a loud unplesant childish b!tch here that always verbally attack me for no reason whatsoever. its like u have to be 100% indian, hindu, and/or punjabi. dude, thats not my game. im all inclusive so yeah i prefer rd over af. the threads & convos there flow more easily & rapidly. unlike here where u feel like some sitting duck in a sociology class. i still think this place is cool, tho.

gangi788
People with institutionalized racism called the caste system should be bragging to everyone about how tolerant they are.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Najjiah @ Nov 1 2006, 05:59 PM) *

im half indian that looks more indian than southeast asian. in fact nobody thinks i have chaptay blood. i thought af would be ideal place for me. id go to filo chat then here. of course eventually i really had not much to say in filo chat coz i dont know their history, politics, or celebs like i know indian stuff. im close to my dad, thats why.



but bein in here i oftentimes feel unwelcome. the trolls & a loud unplesant childish b!tch here that always verbally attack me for no reason whatsoever. its like u have to be 100% indian, hindu, and/or punjabi. dude, thats not my game. im all inclusive so yeah i prefer rd over af. the threads & convos there flow more easily & rapidly. unlike here where u feel like some sitting duck in a sociology class. i still think this place is cool, tho.




Isn't Youngone part-Chupti? And, I think miya is too. I wonder how narrow-minded Desis react when they find out that Pun is 1/4 black.

AF is better than RD, I think.
Najjiah
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 02:34 PM) *




Isn't Youngone part-Chupti? And, I think miya is too. I wonder how narrow-minded Desis react when they find out that Pun is 1/4 black.

AF is better than RD, I think.
are they? wow, im not alone. lol. af is better in some ways but i still prfer rd. actually, i prefer AD the most but that one folded.



like the love/relationship section here is like a replica of of the rd one but its WAY more traffic there & for sum reason i get irritated w/ some of the chaptay here. like the sluts on AF are REAL hardcore alcoholic sluts. at least desis will have a bit more sharam. well... not all.lmao!

Jagger
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 10:20 PM) *

People with institutionalized racism called the caste system should be bragging to everyone about how tolerant they are.

The caste system was originally a job/occupation system that was later heavily modified under British rule:

Caste An European Phenomenon
Role of British in Caste System of India

As we've just mentioned earlier, affirmative action was first used in India, to benefit lower castes:

Affirmative action: India
Reservation in India
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 06:20 PM) *

People with institutionalized racism called the caste system should be bragging to everyone about how tolerant they are.


I said this like 5 times already. But the caste system add nothing to do with Hinduism. It's a European system, the british used to divide India. Mimicking their own hierarchical class system The true hindu varna system has nothing to do with color. Besides the fact that there are pitch black brahmins in the south. icon_smile.gif


Caste An European Phenomenon

EDIT: Jagger beat me to it! biggthumpup.gif
nimbus
QUOTE(Najjiah @ Nov 1 2006, 04:59 PM) *

im half indian that looks more indian than southeast asian. in fact nobody thinks i have chaptay blood. i thought af would be ideal place for me. id go to filo chat then here. of course eventually i really had not much to say in filo chat coz i dont know their history, politics, or celebs like i know indian stuff. im close to my dad, thats why.



but bein in here i oftentimes feel unwelcome. the trolls & a loud unplesant childish b!tch here that always verbally attack me for no reason whatsoever. its like u have to be 100% indian, hindu, and/or punjabi. dude, thats not my game. im all inclusive so yeah i prefer rd over af. the threads & convos there flow more easily & rapidly. unlike here where u feel like some sitting duck in a sociology class. i still think this place is cool, tho.



sorry u were made to feel unwelcomed here...but dont take the opinions of a select few (or one user with multiple accts) personally...i actually know quite a few half indian/half filipino ppl.

dont stop posting here b/c of narrow minded ppl...what makes india such a great country is it's phenotypic and genotypic diversity, so it's always sad to see indians putting other indians down. although, this thread is a good example of indian solidarity.
Najjiah
QUOTE(nimbus @ Nov 1 2006, 03:02 PM) *



sorry u were made to feel unwelcomed here...but dont take the opinions of a select few (or one user with multiple accts) personally...i actually know quite a few half indian/half filipino ppl.

dont stop posting here b/c of narrow minded ppl...what makes india such a great country is it's phenotypic and genotypic diversity, so it's always sad to see indians putting other indians down. although, this thread is a good example of indian solidarity.


agreed. but i only post here coz i adore rupali (xpress). in any case, i still think india is the best country in the world. bharat mata ki jai:)

ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Najjiah @ Nov 1 2006, 07:06 PM) *

agreed. but i only post here coz i adore rupali (xpress). in any case, i still think india is the best country in the world. bharat mata ki jai:)



Aww you're soo nice. icon_redface.gif icon_smile.gif You're coolio too. biggthumpup.gif


My ex was full Indian, and imagine how he felt when people accuse him of being 100% Philippino. icon_redface.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

I will only show this part of the pic, but his eyes say enough!

IPB Image


Najjiah
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 03:10 PM) *



Aww you're soo nice. icon_redface.gif icon_smile.gif You're coolio too. biggthumpup.gif


My ex was full Indian, and imagine how he felt when people accuse him of being 100% Philippino. icon_redface.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

I will only show this part of the pic, but his eyes say enough!

IPB Image


wow... he does look filo. yeah ive seen bare desis with that malay look.
ExpressYourself
He always looked like a typical Indian Bengali to me, but I can how some of his features might be considered a little SE Asian.

I posted his pic on RD once in a thread of yours about Indians looking chupty. It was an OLD thread.
Najjiah
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 03:21 PM) *
He always looked like a typical Indian Bengali to me, but I can how some of his features might be considered a little SE Asian.

I posted his pic on RD once in a thread of yours about Indians looking chupty. It was an OLD thread.
oh yeah i remember! btw... speaking of chupti, whats the verdict on bella? is she half or full? she claims to be italian and sindhi. but then in her pics she looks 100% chupti. eh... whatever. rd is a mismash of desis, desiphiles, and posers. laugh.gif
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 02:20 PM) *

People with institutionalized racism called the caste system should be bragging to everyone about how tolerant they are.

You obviously don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about so just quit while you are ahead. icon_wink.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 1 2006, 11:10 PM) *

Aww you're soo nice. icon_redface.gif icon_smile.gif You're coolio too. biggthumpup.gif
My ex was full Indian, and imagine how he felt when people accuse him of being 100% Philippino. icon_redface.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

I will only show this part of the pic, but his eyes say enough!

IPB Image

I remember you showed his pic last year, and I knew he was Bengali when I first saw it. I think you said people mistook him for Khmer aswell.
gangi788
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Nov 1 2006, 06:38 PM) *

You obviously don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about so just quit while you are ahead. icon_wink.gif



Why don't you blame the British for everything (especially when they basically united your country and created an India in the first place). They might have instituted the caste system (I need to do research on this), but it's the Indians who perfected it. And if Indians were so fair-minded why submit to this racist practice? I don't think British held a gun to their head. It's no secret that Indians have the most oppressive class system known in the modern world. It's disgusting how Indians treat fellow Indians. And don't me started on the treatment of women (I hear wife-murder is quite common). Don't preach to me about how tolerant Indian society is, when you and I know that is hardly from the truth.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 08:51 PM) *

Why don't you blame the British for everything (especially when they basically united your country and created an India in the first place). They might have instituted the caste system (I need to do research on this), but it's the Indians who perfected it. And if Indians were so fair-minded why submit to this racist practice? I don't think British held a gun to their head. It's no secret that Indians have the most oppressive class system known in the modern world. It's disgusting how Indians treat fellow Indians. And don't me started on the treatment of women (I hear wife-murder is quite common). Don't preach to me about how tolerant Indian society is, when you and I know that is hardly from the truth.



So, what's your definition of the caste system?


You think wife-murder doesn't happen in other parts of the world?
gangi788
1) see India
2) not in civilized countries

Indians should take care of their internal problems before arguing like they are on a higher moral ground to everyone else when it's apparent they aren't.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 09:14 PM) *

1) see India
2) not in civilized countries

Indians should take care of their internal problems before arguing like they are on a higher moral ground when it's apparent they aren't.



Uh nobody said they're on a higher moral ground. Everybody has problems.


Civilized countries have produced some of the deadliest and infamous killers in history. It's not a country's fault if someone is wired wrong.


Speaking of wife-killing, O.J. Simpson anyone? How about Amber Frey's man? Can you believe the media glorified that OJ trial so much? I didn't even know who the hell he was until that happened. I guess killing your wife makes you famous in the West.
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(gangi788 @ Nov 1 2006, 05:51 PM) *

Why don't you blame the British for everything (especially when they basically united your country and created an India in the first place). They might have instituted the caste system (I need to do research on this), but it's the Indians who perfected it. And if Indians were so fair-minded why submit to this racist practice? I don't think British held a gun to their head. It's no secret that Indians have the most oppressive class system known in the modern world. It's disgusting how Indians treat fellow Indians. And don't me started on the treatment of women (I hear wife-murder is quite common). Don't preach to me about how tolerant Indian society is, when you and I know that is hardly from the truth.

Once again you're frothing at the mouth with absolutely no knowledge about Indian culture at all.

If Indians bug you so much, then don't post on India Chat, simple as that.
nimbus
gangi788 obviously despises indians...so there really is no point in arguing with him. his arguments are based on his limited knowledge of india, so it seems totally futile to argue with him.

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