why is it especially bad if the arab world goes nuclear? Because, look at 9/11, in the name of jihad they killed innocent women and children. Look at suicide bombing, if they are ready to sacrifice themselves for their ideology, mutually assured destruction isnt something that will keep them from pulling the trigger.

Now that Iran goes nuclear, its neighbours will also want to go nuclear. This might make them more hostile towards each other, but just imagine what those trigger happy radicals like osama and achmedinejad would do in the name of jihad.(osama and others changed the true teachings of islam and the rules of jihad for their cause)

How in god's name will they be able to develop and deliver a nuke?

what do you mean Iran is making one and Saudi-arabia is considering it as well as Egypt, eventually terrorist organisations like al quaida get a bomb and blow up some place. Radical countries like Iran would also fire a nuke directly.

"Radical" eh, because we all know that Iran is going to nuke everything and give nukes to terrorists, while countries like Pakistan/India/China/France/UK/US/Russia would never dream of using nukes.

Personally, if Osama and co get a hold of a nuke and use it, it would make things very 'interesting'. I wonder if the American people can grow a pair after the puss!fication process that they have undergone in the past 50 years or so.

Yep, iran provided hesbollah with rockets against the israelis, providing nukes isnt so far off.

You'll find very few countries who have not at one time aided an unscrupulous group.

and yep.. the US provided Israel with endless supply of weapons which resulted in the thousands of innocent Palestinians and lebanese lives.

you people are missing my point. Islamic groups dont fear self destruction or death of their own people so it is very likely that nukes would be shot off by a radical islamic group or government. Other countries like north korea fear mutually assured destruction thats why they only use the bomb for political gains.



this has nothing to do with the topic, and the innocent palestinians and lebanese would have died without US support.

Do you honestly believe that Iran would just hand nukes over to terrorists? They know that if terrorists use the nukes, the US would do to Iran what it did to Afghanistan. I seriously doubt Iran is going to be that short-sighted.

no offense gula juwa but why is it that many Muslims tend to polarize any and every issue regarding the west and the middle east to "Muslims" "Israel" "American" "Palestine" all the time? I mean if the Christians started bagging together and attack every single issue about Christian "persecution" by "Muslims" we'd be havign wars from East Africa to S.E. Asia.

It's like whenever people argue about the Middle East people say "yeah you always end up saying "terrorism" and "Islam" at the same sentence, blah blah blah you're racist and ignorant"...when alot of times many (just trying to be PC) Muslims always end up the argument with "Israel-Palestine" instead of a period when it has nothing to do with Israel nor Palestine (which is a small conflict compare to the bigger picture IMHO)

just for you interest this isnt something i made up, it was a 2 page article in teh herald tribune.

These people should not be around explosives.

Pakistan is a Muslim country with nukes and it's never used them. I guess that proves your theory wrong.

Iran provides a few weapons, but nukes? If the US goes down, so does the world and every major nation.

I don't think they will go nuclear . Just some little facts :

How many nuclear weapons are there?
There are more than 40,000, distributed as follows:
· USA: 12,070
· Russia: 28,240
· UK: 400
· France: 510
· China: 425
· India: 70
· Pakistan: 15
This many warheads could destroy the world many times over. ( 7 times , to be exact)

SOURCE : http://armageddononline.tripod.com/nuclear.htm


This is how a nuclear weapon looks like . (The suitcase type)

QUOTE(Suijen @ Nov 2 2006, 06:24 AM)

Iran provides a few weapons, but nukes? If the US goes down,so does the world and every major nation.

lol i dont think they give a $hit



From my point of view, the only reason they arent going nuclear is that they dont have the technology or knowledge YET!

Actually , it doesent matter if they don't have the technology or knowledge yet . They are financially equipped and can purchase a nuclear weapon easily.

Nuclear weapons arent easy to purchase and simple to use....

I'm not sure if they are , but this is what i read :

Could terrorists have nuclear weapons?
Nobody knows, but it is possible. The collapse of the USSR has led to the possibility of many nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands. Many terrorists would dream of creating such a weapon, but it would be cheaper to get ready made devices from the former USSR. The greatest risk from these could be 'suitcase bombs' - nuclear weapons the size of suitcases, which a terrorist could simply walk into a city with.

They love death, in the same way we love life.

Let me remind you that Iran is not an "Arab" nation. Muslims yes, Arabs no.

Personally I feel more threatened by America then any other nations/groups on Earth.

ok, my bad, the government i still islamist and radical especially the current president.

I dont feel your fear of america, do you live in a dictatorship? then you have nothing to fear.

No, but we live in a country run by fear.

I don't live in a dictatorship, but I feel America is the most aggressive nation on Earth.

Looking at the posts made in this thread about Iran and the USA and their respective preceived threat levels by the different posters, I got this impression (from those who perceive Iran or the USA as a threat): Iran is like an unpredictable street mugger, and the USA is like the mafia. Who would you fear more? Or is this impression that I had wrong?

Bahahahah I dont think they'll be attacking Philippines or Australia soon, so USA a-okay!

The goal of Iranian leadership is to cause Armageddon.

Oh yeah, because we all know that there'd nothing Iran would like more than the end of the world.

Their president is obsessed with it.

suijen you obviously have no clue of extremist mentality and their motives. Or do you think suicide bombings are not self-sacrificing? Risking the security of your own country for a cause is the same thing just in a greater scale.