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radha_chopra112
should it : yes icon_smile.gif

will it: probably not icon_sad.gif


opinions? biggrin.gif

What would need to happen for a subcontinent reunion? Peace treaty, unity in economic growth or war etc.....
jatt_with_gutts
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 5 2006, 06:39 AM) *

should it : yes icon_smile.gif

will it: probably not icon_sad.gif
opinions? biggrin.gif

What would need to happen for a subcontinent reunion? Peace treaty, unity in economic growth or war etc.....

bangladesh is a disease....pakistani is country of terrorists...india can do better without them.
ExpressYourself
I don't think it will.

If you're on cloud 9, it might work out

If you look at reality, it won't work out.
raindropz
no, too much problems
Sirikittong
Why do you call bangladesh a disease? icon_redface.gif I have many friends from bangladesh..
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Nov 5 2006, 09:49 AM) *

Why do you call bangladesh a disease? icon_redface.gif I have many friends from bangladesh..



Since Jagger says bangladesh is BANGLAND, that means that the place is flowing with STD's. That's why.


J/K...okay... icon_redface.gif
pun187
QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Nov 5 2006, 04:49 PM) *

Why do you call bangladesh a disease? icon_redface.gif I have many friends from bangladesh..

Jatt culture is not good for once brain health you know. The food contains too much "ghee" ewww, damaged fats are BAD!
xxmiyaxx
Wow, you're one of the few people who shares my opinion. icon_smile.gif I think it should - but look at the posts from the people above me. Just by listening to them, we know it won't happen. They are ignorant, and little do they realize that our youth today will be the future of tommorow - and if we change our thinking, we can shape up the future for either good or bad.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(xxmiyaxx @ Nov 5 2006, 08:47 PM) *

Wow, you're one of the few people who shares my opinion. icon_smile.gif I think it should - but look at the posts from the people above me. Just by listening to them, we know it won't happen. They are ignorant, and little do they realize that our youth today will be the future of tommorow - and if we change our thinking, we can shape up the future for either good or bad.


thanks biggrin.gif

I'm sure there are alot of people that feel the same way we do. I think as India develops and we have something to offer our neighbors, it becomes a greater possibility. And if India develops into superpower, economic unity is even more viable. I think it's possible in the not to distant future. icon_smile.gif
ReichsLeiter
no. not becuz one day indian subcontinent would fall to a big power.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 6 2006, 12:01 AM) *

thanks biggrin.gif

I'm sure there are alot of people that feel the same way we do. I think as India develops and we have something to offer our neighbors, it becomes a greater possibility. And if India develops into superpower, economic unity is even more viable. I think it's possible in the not to distant future. icon_smile.gif



Hey...I would be feeling the same way if everybody could live in peace.

But, that's not going to happen anytime soon. Hell, we Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans can't even live in peace when we're living abraod. If South Asians can't even unite living as minorities, what makes you think they can happily unite back home?
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(ReichsLeiter @ Nov 6 2006, 06:50 AM) *

no. not becuz one day indian subcontinent would fall to a big power.

I don't understand what you're saying. confused.gif
ABC in NYC
Probably not---- too much bad blood.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 6 2006, 07:13 AM) *

Hey...I would be feeling the same way if everybody could live in peace.

But, that's not going to happen anytime soon. Hell, we Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans can't even live in peace when we're living abraod. If South Asians can't even unite living as minorities, what makes you think they can happily unite back home?


True.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part. Still I think the governments hold longer grudges than the people do. Places like RateDesi are examples of South Asians getting together in a generally peaceful tone, I think. There are other organizations that promote South Asian unity. I still think more could be done.

QUOTE(ABC in NYC @ Nov 6 2006, 03:41 PM) *

Probably not---- too much bad blood.


no more bad blood than say Tibet and China, or Taiwan/China. People can get over past mistakes and unite for a greater good.


P.S. This question was meant for the South Asian diaspora, and general well-wishers for a prosperous Subcontinent. icon_smile.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE
Places like RateDesi are examples of South Asians getting together in a generally peaceful tone, I think


RD maybe okay now, but there used to be a lot of ethnic tension back then. Actually, you still do see home Hindu Vs. Muslim stuff every now and then.


The old posters still post there, so I wouldn't doubt them having the same feelings they did back then.
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 6 2006, 11:13 AM) *

Hey...I would be feeling the same way if everybody could live in peace.

But, that's not going to happen anytime soon. Hell, we Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans can't even live in peace when we're living abraod. If South Asians can't even unite living as minorities, what makes you think they can happily unite back home?

Most ordinary 2nd-3rd generation British Asians (except for a few gangs here and there) have united quite well. We just refer to ourselves as Asians, instead of Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, etc. (or sometimes refer to our ethnicity instead)

Should I assume there isn't much unity among South Asian Americans?
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(Jagger @ Nov 17 2006, 01:11 AM) *

Most ordinary 2nd-3rd generation British Asians (except for a few gangs here and there) have united quite well. We just refer to ourselves as Asians, instead of Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, etc. (or sometimes refer to our ethnicity instead)

Should I assume there isn't much unity among South Asian Americans?


South Asian Americans are more intergrated into American mainstream society. There are Asian associations that include Indians and not just East Asians.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ Nov 17 2006, 01:11 AM) *

Most ordinary 2nd-3rd generation British Asians (except for a few gangs here and there) have united quite well. We just refer to ourselves as Asians, instead of Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, etc. (or sometimes refer to our ethnicity instead)

Should I assume there isn't much unity among South Asian Americans?


Sometimes it seems like they're united on the outside and will call themselves "Desis", but there are times where people's prejudices and separatist attitudes shine through when they make random comments.

I can tell over here that Hindus/Muslims and Pakistanis/Indians in my town don't like getting too close to each other. They will be polite to each other only when needed and there isn't any fights that break out between them.

But, they don't like each other behind closed doors.
Metropolitan
Well Hindu is Asian to the max so it can be a problem.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Metropolitan @ Nov 17 2006, 09:06 AM) *

Well Hindu is Asian to the max so it can be a problem.



Explain? That didn't make any sense.
SoCal
http://www.southasianunion.net/

South Asia Union icon_smile.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(SoCal @ Nov 17 2006, 03:12 PM) *

A union between most of Asia is even less likely. You really are too optimistic (as always).
IcantspeakMarathi
I'm choosy guy so here goes.

Nepal, India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and Tibet should unite into loose federation.
radha_chopra112
no Pakistan? bawling.gif
ExpressYourself
Dang, he left out Sri Lanka too!
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 18 2006, 11:30 PM) *

Dang, he left out Sri Lanka too!

Oh snaps! embarassedlaugh.gif

Sri Lanka gotta be included. icon_sad.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 18 2006, 11:32 PM) *

Oh snaps! embarassedlaugh.gif

Sri Lanka gotta be included. icon_sad.gif




Well, some Sri Lankans probably wouldn't care. I've seen a few online that don't want to be associated with the sub-continent.
IcantspeakMarathi
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 18 2006, 08:28 PM) *

no Pakistan? bawling.gif

I don't have anything against Muslims. Nor do I have any issue the ethnic groups that inhabit Pakistan. I just think there are two countries that can't get along. It's like if Kareena and Bipasha and had to do movies with each other for the rest of their life.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 18 2006, 11:34 PM) *

Well, some Sri Lankans probably wouldn't care. I've seen a few online that don't want to be associated with the sub-continent.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. What their opinion of Indians are. I think we get along fine overall.

QUOTE(IcantspeakMarathi @ Nov 18 2006, 11:35 PM) *

I don't have anything against Muslims. Nor do I have any issue the ethnic groups that inhabit Pakistan. I just think there are two countries that can't get along. It's like if Kareena and Bipasha and had to do movies with each other for the rest of their life.

Yeah I know what you mean. A reunion with Pakistan will probably never happen. Maybe only for economic reasons, but who knows?! sure.gif


This stuff is like 50-100yrs. away from being even remotely possible. bawling.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Nov 18 2006, 11:51 PM) *

Yeah, I was wondering about that. What their opinion of Indians are. I think we get along fine overall.
Yeah I know what you mean. A reunion with Pakistan will probably never happen. Maybe only for economic reasons, but who knows?! sure.gif
This stuff is like 50-100yrs. away from being even remotely possible. bawling.gif



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Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Nov 18 2006, 07:52 PM) *

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Its also a great way to stalk hot college girls.......

Wait....did I say that out loud? embarassedlaugh.gif
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Nov 19 2006, 02:03 AM) *

Its also a great way to stalk hot college girls.......

Wait....did I say that out loud? embarassedlaugh.gif


lol, it can't be funnier than Asiafinest! embarassedlaugh.gif
gomeny
We should take Tibet and Takistan as well
Jagger
Add Afghanistan to the list too.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ Dec 7 2006, 01:35 AM) *

Add Afghanistan to the list too.



That would be a dream come true for SOME. embarassedlaugh.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Dec 7 2006, 05:43 AM) *

That would be a dream come true for SOME. embarassedlaugh.gif

The only problem is that Afghans are too resistent to foreign occupation.
radha_chopra112
idea.gif Put the Sikhs on 'em! That'll do the job! shifty.gif

ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Dec 7 2006, 07:10 AM) *

idea.gif Put the Sikhs on 'em! That'll do the job! shifty.gif


Let's just send Jatt w/ Gutts, he can do the whole job alone icon_wink.gif
ReichsLeiter
QUOTE(IcantspeakMarathi @ Nov 19 2006, 08:27 AM) *

I'm choosy guy so here goes.

Nepal, India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and Tibet should unite into loose federation.



Tibet icon_neutral.gif
swathi
I can't believe anybody can be this dumb to ask this kind of question. why do punjabis think they are the only people in india.. ask a marathi,bengali or a south indian none of us have any kind of longing for pakistan or bangaldesh. it's hard enough for us to get along with everyone else in our country and u want to add more troubles.. u have heard of kashmir have you!!! first we cannot get along well with the muslim brethen in india u have to add extra god how many million to an already volatile mix. pakistanis hate indians yes yes they will be sweet and friendly and inside they don't like us and neither do we!!! we have fought 3 wars with them. peace we want !!! but not country re unification...
Jagger
QUOTE(swathi @ Mar 8 2007, 12:42 AM) *

I can't believe anybody can be this dumb to ask this kind of question. why do punjabis think they are the only people in india.. ask a marathi,bengali or a south indian none of us have any kind of longing for pakistan or bangaldesh. it's hard enough for us to get along with everyone else in our country and u want to add more troubles.. u have heard of kashmir have you!!! first we cannot get along well with the muslim brethen in india u have to add extra god how many million to an already volatile mix. pakistanis hate indians yes yes they will be sweet and friendly and inside they don't like us and neither do we!!! we have fought 3 wars with them. peace we want !!! but not country re unification...

They actually had four Indo-Pak wars. But why would you think it's okay to hate an entire group of people just because of past enmity? It's almost been a decade since the last war between them. Why can't Indians and Pakis just get over it already?

And since when did Punjabis Indians have a longing for Pakistan? Some Punjabi Indians seem to think of Punjabi Pakistanis as a different ethnic group altogether, and vice versa.
jiggyiggy
I don't think it's a longing for Pakistan itself, but I think it's stupid how a country was divided because of religon.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(jiggyiggy @ Mar 8 2007, 03:07 AM) *

I don't think it's a longing for Pakistan itself, but I think it's stupid how a country was divided because of religon.


Agreed. Religion was brought into politics, at a time when the country needed to be united. There was an especially bright future for the country just before the split. However, I think greed and desire made people use religion as an excuse to get what they wanted.
swathi
iam not saying that we need to hate. i said we want peace and but not country reunification. first of all hardly any one of u people live in india or are even aware of the ground relialities of india and pakistan. yes it was wrong to divide a country on basis of religion but it was right thing to do.hindus wanted to rule for the first time earlier it used to be mughals then british. if bangladesh and pakistan were still with us there would be more muslims and the what it would have been islamic republic of india!!!. muslims convert they marry non-muslim men and women and convert them... the amt of freedom that women get in india compare that to pakistan. just 2 weeks ago a woman minister was shot dead by a man cause he felt she was going against the religion. just for being a minister in parliarment she was killed. why don't people get it india is now a different country and so is pakistan...

radha chopra is a punjabi.. punjabis will either hate pakistanis or love them rest of india will be very neutral we neither love nor hate them.. pakistanis are wicked look what they did to bengalis in 1971 it did not matter that they were muslim just cause their skin color is darker they hated them and gave them second class treatmnent. what about the indian immigrants in karachi. muhajirs!!! find out about MQM and how it came into existence.. in pakistan christians are called chamars meaning low caste hindus!! and hindus in pakistan do not have the right to vote regularly they kidnap hindu girls, rape them some of them as young as 14 and then say that they converted of their own free will.

bangladeshis have forgotten the help indians have given to them.. they support pakistanis now as there are after all muslims!! yes yes u will meet bangladeshis to remember the war and hate pakistan but the present generation in bangladesh hate india. they support pakistan simply bcause it is a muslim country.. and u want to them to join us...

when sikh movement was going on in india who used to give arms and guns to the militants!!! pakistan... who are giving support to kashmiri militants ! pakistan... even now some of the suspects in londing bombings were pakistanis!!!

india is given some respect in the world. what is pakistan in news for ??? why on earth do we need to associate ourselves with them...

Don't hate them !!! but why do u want us to get together!!!
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(swathi @ Mar 8 2007, 09:04 AM) *


radha chopra is a punjabi.. punjabis will either hate pakistanis or love them rest of india will be very neutral




Radha mentioned before that she has roots to U.P., but I think she said her family lived in Trinidad for a few generations.


I don't think Chopra is her real last name.

Tenjikuronin
Part of the reason why Punjabis may want reunification is because it was their state (along with Bengal) which were divided. All the other Indian states (except maybe Kashmir) remained intact and either went all the way to India or all the way to Pakistan.

I know that personally I would love is Lahore was still part of India. That's where my mother's family was from and they owned quite a bit of property there....
kkdkckrl
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Mar 8 2007, 01:00 PM) *

I know that personally I would love is Lahore was still part of India. That's where my mother's family was from and they owned quite a bit of property there....


Dont' worry tenji, once I become INdian PM - I will definitely fulfill your dream! beerchug.gif
Oswami
I don't think we need unity, we have enough muslims thank you very much.

But less d!ck fighting would be nice.
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