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theaccidentaltourist
Well what do you expect...

With thiefs ruling the DPR[Legislature] and the Mahkamah Agung [Judiciary], small
wonder when Transparency International published their latest figure. Indonesia
ranks 137 out of 159 countries when it comes to business transparency
.

Just recently, we saw suharto's golden child being released from prison. This is for
the guy who was convicted of conspiring to kill one of the judges. Well, the judge is
dead, and now tommy walks free. And, by the way, he will eventually walks free
from all corruption charges, some pending and some buried, as well, guranteed.

The irony of it all, come the next election, the golkar party which single handedly
destroyed, not to mention pillaged the outer island minorities, will be back in power.
And, then I was asking why? Is it because indonesians are so dumb and stupid that
they can't think about how to improve themselves? Is it because of apathy?

One would wonder, for more than three decades under suharto's thumbs and another
decade under nobody knows feet, indonesians are plain tired. They're tired. A great
many can't even sustain their daily living with what they have. The other half are just
to busy to make sure they have something to eat the next day, the next week or the
next month. They don't have time to think anymore. They're just plain tired and too
weak.

And, now here, we've seen purnomor and the likes talking about military hardware and
the so happy life in indonesia. Hm..., interesting. When the figure still reads like this:
40 percent of indonesia's 100+ millions of workforce is either unemployed or underemployed-
a staggering 40 million people, It's not a happy and fine life in indonesia. It's atrocious.

Maybe, yhe only sollution is to simply cut off the entire two generations of politicians.
Indonesia should get rid of all the 70's, 60's and earlier politicians, judges and militaries.
Yup, Indonesia will have to depend on its 80's generation to move forward. Indonesia
needs to start fresh and new to give it a chance to compete in the global world.

I look at indonesia now, and I say: there's still hope. Although this could be the last one
before this country implodes into millions of debris of irrelevance.

tat
Sirikittong
Indonesia needs to work on that!
flipcombatmedic
Democracy!...oh wait that was for the Philippines.
GluTTony
slowly but surely were I'm improving... wasn't it that Indonesia was the third most in the world about a couple of years ago? then 5th, 11th, 20th, now 30, and next year?
purnomor
This index is not about actual corruption, but it is just about the perception of corruption. Hence, nobody cares about such index cause it is useless indicator.

China and India both have high levels of corruption according to this index, yet these two countries register extremely high growth and high influz of FDI, allowing millions of people to be alleviated from poverty each year. Meanwhile, East Timor who is ridicilously called "less corrupt" than Indonesia has no economy and is the poorest country on earth.

So, again, who cares about this index?

QUOTE(theaccidentaltourist @ Nov 7 2006, 12:14 AM) [snapback]2458799[/snapback]

The irony of it all, come the next election, the golkar party which single handedly
destroyed, not to mention pillaged the outer island minorities, will be back in power.
And, then I was asking why? Is it because indonesians are so dumb and stupid that
they can't think about how to improve themselves? Is it because of apathy?


LOL, Golkar did not "destroy" outer island minorities. In fact, Golkar's power base IS the outer island communities. The victory attained by Golkar in 2004 elections is an indicator that Indonesians are having nostalgia for Suharto-era stability and growth, hence they voted for Suharto's party Golkar.

QUOTE
One would wonder, for more than three decades under suharto's thumbs and another
decade under nobody knows feet, indonesians are plain tired. They're tired. A great
many can't even sustain their daily living with what they have. The other half are just
to busy to make sure they have something to eat the next day, the next week or the
next month. They don't have time to think anymore. They're just plain tired and too
weak.


LOL, who the fvk do you think you are? Idiots like you cannot speak for Indonesian people. The Indonesian people has nothing in common with you.

QUOTE
And, now here, we've seen purnomor and the likes talking about military hardware and
the so happy life in indonesia. Hm..., interesting. When the figure still reads like this:
40 percent of indonesia's 100+ millions of workforce is either unemployed or underemployed-
a staggering 40 million people, It's not a happy and fine life in indonesia. It's atrocious.


LOL, Indonesia's unemployment rate is only 10%. Any country with 40% unemployment would've collapsed and unable to function, like East Timor. With a relatively low and managable unemployment rate, no wonder Indonesian democracy is stable and functioning well.
theaccidentaltourist
This picture shows you how prosperous Indonesia is
under the auspice of an excellent governance by an ex-
military man SBY.

These are people from Brebes in Central Java who were
forced to eat 'aking" [dried leftover rice, normally found
at the bottom of rice pot] because they couldn't afford to
buy some rice. They're forced to eat the food they normally
feed to ducks and geese. [from kompas dated dec 13 2006]
IPB Image
You tell me..., is this the faces of happy people? I guess
we don't have to go too far away to look. You don't have
to go too far away to acheh, irian or moluccas to see how
this government has done a great job at creating misery
to many many people all over indonesia.

What a pathetic governance. Now, these people, the military
and the government and their @$$ licker cohorts are
talking about buying some military hardwares, which they
couldn't afford, instead of helping some poor folks who
can barely survive their daily lives. What an appaling
display of disconnect most of these bureucrats and
military's butt-lickers are. PATHETIC.

More than anything else it spells corruptions, from top
to bottom. And, since the butcher's heir apparent [
psst..., the name is tommy] is out of prison by the way
of typically indonesian legal system discounted
jail-time [psst..., the spelling is corruptions], it just goes
without saying corruption in indonesia is alive and well.
Thank you very much. By the way, that butcher's name
is suharto. Yep, the coward who claimed he was too ill to
stand trial. Thousands killed because they're branded as
communists, and thousands more was put in years of
detention in Buru Island, and many of them died there.
This suharto person should be put at the bottomest pit
of hell.

Oh, by the way, his butcher's heir apparent company's TPN,
another one of brilliant creation of suharto's clan to create
a national car which actually a perfect vehicle to syphon the
money away from public coffer, won a decision from the
higher court to partake the money that actually didn't belong
to them in the first place. Again only in indonesia. Where else?
Ever wonder why indonesia is still among the most corrupt
nations in this planet?

tat
GluTTony
what do you want the people here (in Indochat) to do?

since we're mostly student abroad why don't you SMS something like that to SBY since most of us can do anything here
purnomor
QUOTE(theaccidentaltourist @ Dec 13 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]2566431[/snapback]

This picture shows you how prosperous Indonesia is
under the auspice of an excellent governance by an ex-
military man SBY.

These are people from Brebes in Central Java who were
forced to eat 'aking" [dried leftover rice, normally found
at the bottom of rice pot] because they couldn't afford to
buy some rice. They're forced to eat the food they normally
feed to ducks and geese. [from kompas dated dec 13 2006]
IPB Image
You tell me..., is this the faces of happy people? I guess
we don't have to go too far away to look. You don't have
to go too far away to acheh, irian or moluccas to see how
this government has done a great job at creating misery
to many many people all over indonesia.

What a pathetic governance. Now, these people, the military
and the government and their @$$ licker cohorts are
talking about buying some military hardwares, which they
couldn't afford, instead of helping some poor folks who
can barely survive their daily lives. What an appaling
display of disconnect most of these bureucrats and
military's butt-lickers are. PATHETIC.

More than anything else it spells corruptions, from top
to bottom. And, since the butcher's heir apparent [
psst..., the name is tommy] is out of prison by the way
of typically indonesian legal system discounted
jail-time [psst..., the spelling is corruptions], it just goes
without saying corruption in indonesia is alive and well.
Thank you very much. By the way, that butcher's name
is suharto. Yep, the coward who claimed he was too ill to
stand trial. Thousands killed because they're branded as
communists, and thousands more was put in years of
detention in Buru Island, and many of them died there.
This suharto person should be put at the bottomest pit
of hell.

Oh, by the way, his butcher's heir apparent company's TPN,
another one of brilliant creation of suharto's clan to create
a national car which actually a perfect vehicle to syphon the
money away from public coffer, won a decision from the
higher court to partake the money that actually didn't belong
to them in the first place. Again only in indonesia. Where else?
Ever wonder why indonesia is still among the most corrupt
nations in this planet?

tat


Yet another brainless ranting from this moron TAT, somehow connecting problem of high rice prices with corruption and Tommy Suharto. Fact is, under Suharto's rule thanks to his effective subsidies, rice is always cheap and available to all. Not only that, Suharto managed to make Indonesia into the third-largest producer of rice in the world, a position still held by Indonesia today. Indonesia's productivity (yield per hectare) is also one of the highest in the world.

It is only under democracy, we got stupid Parliamentarians who have illogical obsession with prohibiting imports of rice, as consequence price of rice increase since domestic production of 55 million tons per annum is not sufficient to cover the demands from 250 million Indonesians. As consequence, small minority of the poorest Indonesians decided to eat cheap low-quality rice than the usual rice.

Only way to reduce price of rice is to return to Suharto-era subsidies and allowance of importation of rice, or the arrival some miraculuos green revolution by IRRI in Los Banos or by Indonesian scientists (such as discovery of higher-yield rice species).

Only stupid Parliamentarians failed to realise that high-population countries always must import food.
theaccidentaltourist
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taken from Kompas Online
purnomor
QUOTE(theaccidentaltourist @ Dec 26 2006, 12:32 AM) [snapback]2600585[/snapback]

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taken from Kompas Online


Use of nasi aking = downside of democracy
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