QUOTE(rodolru @ Dec 2 2006, 07:09 PM) [snapback]2536677[/snapback]
i have family in long beach, it's not that dangerous. it's just highly glamorized by hollywood as well as snoop dogg but it's no where near the other rough neighborhoods of california. east oakland alone had over 150 homicides last year and they're about to to beat that record this year. now that's dangerous.
Now that is very clearly a big fat lie. How the hell can East Oakland have over 150 homicides in 2005 when the entirety of Oakland only had 93 homicides in 2005? In 2006, Oakland had 145 homicides so it's still impossible that East Oakland would have even more than 150 in 2006. And you know what? Not the entirety of East Oakland is ghetto. I have close family (cousins and uncles) living in East Oakland, San Antonio area to be exact, for over 10 years already, and there are alot of Asians (Chinese, Vietnamese, and Laotian mostly) living there. Yea, it's definitely not the best and safest place to live in the world but it ain't exactly ghetto either. I remember back in 2005, three dudes (two black, one mexican) with guns robbed my cousin's house and stole a computer and some jewelry but they didn't pop anything. But other than that incident, my close family's neighborhood is quite safe. Directly across the street, there's an apartment complex full of blacks but they haven't caused any trouble lately. $hit, I go to my cousin's house like every freaking week this summer. Don't even try to pretend to claim entire cities in the Bay Area as ghetto just cuz you love hyphy and be ridin on Keak Da Sneak's c@ck when you probably never even been to the real ghettos of the Bay Area. With the exception of small "cities" like Camden (NJ), Richmond (CA), Compton, etc. which have populations of around only 100,000 or less, most cities in the US have good neighborhoods and bad neighborhoods. Last I checked, Oakland has around 400,000 people.
The truth is, the ghetto parts of Oakland are West Oakland and Deep East Oakland, that is, the part of East Oakland bordering San Leandro, from High St. to San Leandro. Probably about half of the homicides for Oakland are concentrated in those two areas in particular, but also evenly distributed between the two.
Likewise, claiming "Frisco" (it's SF or The City, and I ain't no "Frisconian"; "Frisco" - further proof that you ain't from SF) to be ghetto is also likewise retarded. Districts like the Taraval (Sunset, Parkside, Ocean View, Ocean Beach areas) have low homicide rates, about 1-5 persons per 100,000 people. On the other hand, about 1/4 of the homicides in SF occurs in the Bayview district and the Bayview has the highest homicide rate out of all the 10 districts of the SFPD, a homicide rate as high as Richmond, CA when you average it out over the past 4 years from 2002-2005 (about 34 murders per 100,000 people). Yea, it ain't "The Fillmoe" like San Quinn and Messy Marv would make you believe. You act like all of "Frisco" is like the Bayview, which is just plain stupid. The fact is, large parts of SF are NOT violent ghettos, and only in several blocks of the Fillmore (mostly the projects), Hayes Valley, the Sunnydale and Alemany projects, Upper Haight Street Corridor, several blocks and intersections (16th/Mission, 24th/Mission, Lower 22nd, 17th street/Shotwell) in the Mission do you have to worry about violent crime. In the Oceanview Merced area in 2004, there were severable notable homicides but the place isn't really a ghetto at all and that was, interestingly, exclusive only to 2004. But they're relatively easy to avoid and get out of if you do end up in these areas. Lots of people in SF usually don't have to worry about being a violent crime statistic unless you walk through these tiny intersections/corridors/blocks and start acting all hard like rodolru is; the exception to this rule would be the Bayview (Third Street Corridor, Potrero Hill, San Bruno Ave./Silver Ave., and the various projects [Oakdale, West Brooks, Allice Griffith, Hunters View, etc.] all did their work to contribute to the homicides in the Bayview district). At the same time it's stupid and naive to think that all of SF has low homicide rates like in Pacific Heights, Diamond Heights, or the Taraval and Richmond districts, it's also stupid to claim that all of SF is as ghetto as the Bayview area.
Now back to the Long Beach topic, man rodolru, you're pretty much $hitting on yourself. Long Beach "no where near the other rough neighborhoods of california"? Are you even freaking making a fair comparison? Long Beach has even more people than Oakland, LBC at 479,729 as of 2005. Again, for cities with a population well over 100,000, there tends to be tons of good neighborhoods while at the same time there are only a few bad neighborhoods. Combining the homicide rates for both good and bad neighborhoods usually gives you a medium to low homicide rate for that particular city. Thus, the homicide rates for big cities (cities well over 100,000) are almost always useless. There are only a few big cities that are the exception to this rule, like Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, and Washington D.C. where homicides are evenly distributed among the various neighborhoods while there is only like 1 or 2 neighborhoods with low homicides.
Most likely, not every neighborhood in LBC is like Belmont Shores, Naples, or Bixby Knolls, etc. To be honest, I wasn't able to check and calculate the homicide rate for the various Long Beach neighborhoods, but I'm willing to bet that Long Beach is filled with tons of neighborhoods with very low homicide rates while there is only like 1 or 2 neighborhoods with high homicide rates. Probably North Long Beach and parts of "the Eastside"/Central LBC as well. Very probable for the case of North Long Beach, particularly the northwestern part, for THE COMBINATION of these several reasons:
1. The public housing project that the Brick Blocc Mafia Crips occupy happens to be in North Long Beach and is the 2nd most poverty-stricken place in all of Los Angeles County, with 88.2 % of all the people there living at the official poverty level x 1.5 (a less conservative, more realistic approach at getting a sense of poverty levels).
2. North Long Beach, particularly the northwest, is right next to the South Central LA ghettos, Compton, in particular, to its northwest.
3. Just like its neighbor Compton and pretty much the entirety of South Central LA, North Long Beach is being overflooded by Hispanics. As a result, racial killings conducted by both Black and Hispanic gangs against each other as well as against non-gangsters of the opposite race have been happening in South Central LA more frequently than ever. Besides the usual black-on-black violence (Crips vs. Crips - there's no Bloods in Long Beach) and the occasional black vs. ese's, we now potentially have an escalated ese's vs. Asians/Cambodians conflict that had started since the 1980's, the Tiny Raskal Gangstas sets and, more recently, the Asian Boyz Crips sets in particular. There's also the Samoan and Tongan gangs. I don't know how they fit in these gang and racial conflicts but I know they exist. They probably bang Crips as well.
As for "the Eastside", I don't know just how bad the homicide rate is over there right now since I can't seem to be able to find enough official data to let me calculate it. But from what I've read about the late 80's and 90's, there were tons of gangs over here and most of the gangs of Long Beach originate from here, including the Rollin' 20's Crips that Snoop Doggy Dogg used to gangbang for, the Insane Crips who are the enemies of the Rollin' 20's, the Eastside Longos who are the enemies of TRG/Tiny Raskal Gangstas and, finally, TRG themselves. I don't know exactly where Asian Boyz first started since their formation was more recent. This is where Snoop Dogg, his cousin Nate Dogg, Warren G. and the rest of them rappers that claim Eastside LBC came from.
Oh, btw "the Eastside" isn't the real Eastside of Long Beach, ie it's not really the eastern portion of Long Beach. It's only called "Eastside" because it's directly east of the Los Angeles River. Probably it's a hood name or something that the gangs all commonly used. "The Eastside" is actually Central Long Beach.
You also got it wrong by claiming that Snoop popularized Long Beach. He almost always says Eastside LBC. He usually doesn't rep for all of the LBC, but just his Eastside hood. Unlike you who tries to claim all of "Frisco" and Oakland to be ghetto as hell. $hit, if I was as ignorant and full of bull$hit as you, I would've responded by saying something like "i have family in frisco, it's not that dangerous. it's just highly glamorized by frank sinatra as well as san quinn and messy marv but it's no where near the other rough neighborhoods of california. eastside LBC alone had over 150 homicides last year and they're about to to beat that record this year. now that's dangerous"