Post pictures of native Hawaiins and tell your stories of your adventures with the Hawaiian culture or how the topic of Hawaii effected you.

I've acually had many conversations about Hawaii to other people and some arguments too

you can also post Hawaiian words if you like any thing about Hawaii.

make sure to post pictures of native Hawaiians.

I haven't been to hawaii but I heard it was a nice place, tons of Asians apparently. Anyways, I'd luv to go there coz a lot of my fave celebrities are frm there. Anyways, here's my fave hawaiians pikz:

Angela Perez-Baraquio



Benny Agbayani


Jasmine Trias


Camile Velasco


My fave AI


Tia Carrere

^ those are filipinas living in hawaii... but i think running horse is wanting to learn about native hawaiians (who are polynesian people)

guys you gotta watch out when you say polynesians. polynesians are tongan samona, hawaiian, tahitian, marquesans and such. hawaiians get all sappy when filipinos say they're hawaiian or if other people say they're hawaiian, because native hawaiian culture is like becoming extinct.

well what I meant was native Hawaiian, decendents from the original settlers ( as early as we know )

but its ok to post people living in Hawaii too.


and if polynesians are tongan samona, hawaiian, tahitian, and marquesans dosen't that mean they are native to the islands too

and the reason the Hawaiian culture is dying off is because of european collinization look up kumu hula defenders of a Hawaiian culture dvd I've seen it 3 times already i'ts not just a documentary but it has tradional music it's just great all around.

You can't be serious when you post those pictures as native Hawaiians

Those are Filipino sell-outs more like it

most of the Hawaiians that I have seen are mixed spanish/(I'm not sure what word to use here) Hawaiian or Poloneasian. Like the Natives of the great plains wich is Now America, Hawaiians held great culture, but due to outside interference from captain Cook and other european settlers Hawaiians have been led down a road of ruin

well they are Filipinas who 's parents where from Phillipines who migrated to Hawaii. You can destinguish them from their names alone. Asians with hispanicize names.

you dont understand what i mean. when you said hawaiian, we mean hawaiian, it's not like saying coloradoan, as anybody from colorado, but since hawaiians are the only people who are sovereign who are actual native of this land, it's kinda hurtful, to them, when you say hawaiian, for example the ex governor of hawaii who was flip, was chastised by a hawaiian activist lady for saying that he was hawaiian, having the argument that he and his past generations of filipino helped hawaii what it is today, and he was born and raised here knowing nothing but local culture. but i could also understand with the native hawaiians, how do you feel when whites say they're natives of america, which they have before during the nativist movement in the past centuries. because they were born here and been here for a few centuries. and polynesians are not just hawaiians, for example fijians and smaoans and tongans are actually closer in identifying each other than any other culture here. as for hawaiian culture, it is losing is because come on you in the united states now, and all these people are here now, and for them to speak haaiian and make all these other people understand hawaiian just to understand them is hard.

I guess I mean Hawaiian as a nationality and you must be saying polynesians as a collective race like African americans.

i think hawaiians need to shut up. the fact is they are a state of the United States of America. they need to quit trying to put down people like our filipino governor by outcasting him because their not native hawaiian. if they aren't happy being a state of the united states of america or their situation, they need to protest and fight to become a soverign nation.

yes polynesia is actually a group of islands up northern than melanesia, and micronesia. therefore polynesian are like a group of people rather than jus one nationality, it's like saying that iroquois and mohicans, mohicans are iroquois, but not all iroquois are mohicans, or the sioux having oglala and lakotas. so you gots to be more specific when you say polynesia, kinda like when you say saying a certain tribe of native americans.

no its not. the polynesian triangle is from new zealand to hawaii to easter island....

yea but most of it is actually haaii and such is up north of the equator.

hawaii is not the center of polynesia, culturally or geographically, how can it be the most of it? in terms of landmass Aotearoa, new zealand was the largest landform and it is the southern most island settled by polynesian people.

okay okay i'm sorry i was wrong.

Yeah... how come so many sellout flips think their hawaiian when "real" hawaiians look down on so many filipinos. I'm so sick of Flips saying their hawaiian. You all know that when a typical white person, ora any other person for that matter thinks of a beautiful hawaiian girl it's probly realy a filpina he's thinking about.

hawaiian don't look don't on flips, i should know duh brother i kinda live here, trust me. i gots lots of hawaiian friends. and it does happen that SOMe hawaiians do look down of filipinos, just like Some filipinos hate japanese, or some native american hate the white people, and african americans hate white, and white with everybodyelse etc etc...and hawaii is a state, a hella beuatiful state, i think some people should just "shutup" and stop hating us, and he wouldn't be a governor if most of the people don't like him as a governor, there are just some hawaiian activisit, hawaiians being sensitive of losing their identity, thought offended by taking their identity, when it should have been said in a different way to identify himself as a proud of being from hawaii.

"flip fliop" (maybe i should call u that since you openly call urself a dereagotory term which means F-king L-ittle I-sland P-eople) said he was not raised on an austronesian culture, but now he says he is raised in hawaii? what a fanny dooley!!!

I don't think FLIP is called Fcking Little Island People, more like Funny Little Island People. Besides, I don't think Flip is that derogatory, it's like Black ppl calling each other niggas. To other black ppl, its acceptable but when other ppl say it it's not. Same thing goes for Flip.

dude i was raised in hawaii, by filipino parents who grew me up in proud culture since i left the pi... i miss it by the way, i'm in college can't afford to right now, but anyway i spent all my adolescent in the serene hospitable islands of hawaii welcoming cultures as foreign as teh flip culture, and plus the hwaiians are austronesians too and so i don't feel like i was missing "austronesian" raising ever. flip pride.

NO HALO-HALO I DISAGREE, I BELIEVE FLIP IS DERGATORY TERM AND THAT I DO NOT FOLLOW THE SUIT OF THE BLACK MAN WHO HAS HAD TO USE THE TERM NIGGA TO SOFTEN THE BLOW OF ITS ORIGINAL DERIVIATION N-GG0ER.... OK

IT IS A DEFENSIVE MECHIANISM THAT THE BLACK MAN HAS HAD TO MAKE THE RACIST TERM INTO A TERM OF ENDEARMANT.....

I OPT NOT TO USE THE WORD FLIP. AS IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE ITS ORIGINS AS A RACIST DEROGATORY TERM MEANING

F-KING LITTLE ISLAND PEOPLE.

AND AS FOR FLIP FLOP, YOU ARE SO STUPID MY MAN, HONESTLY I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE EVEN IN COLLEGE, BECAUSE YOU ARE EITHER INCOMPETENT IN WHAT YOU READ OR YOU ARE PURPPOSELY TRYING TO SIDEWIND AROUND EVERYTIME I HAVE PROVED YOU WRONG.

THE POST I WROTE TO YOU WAS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR STATEMENT IN ANOTHER POST WHERE YOU SAID:

"I WAS NEVER GREW UP ON NO AUSTRONESIAN CULTURE"

AND I TOLD YOU THAT YOU DID GROW UP ON AN AUSTRONESIAN CULTURE IF YOU LIVED IN HAWAII, BECUASE HAWAIIANS ARE AUSTRONESIAN PEOPLE.......

WOW YOU ARE SO STUPID, I HOPE YOUR PARENTS ARE NOT WASTING THEIR MONEY FUNDING MONEY TOWARDS YOUR ATTEMPT TO FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION.

Dalawapo, I respect your opinion on the matter. Like I said, everyone has different but valid viewpoints. I myself do not use the word flip bcoz I don't live in the US but I call myself Filo, and as far as I can tell that doesn't carry any racist connotations. And plz ppl, let us stop this fighting! We are all filipinos, regardless of what our beliefs are, and by not getting along we are not making our country proud. :genius:

Aloha Kakahiaka E olelo Hawaii iki wale no au so I can't show off too much. Hawaiian inoa anyone? sorry my vocabulary is limited. He la maika'i kau.

Heh...I only know one Hawaiian word and that is 'Aloha'

I would be a pro by now if I wasn't trying to learn so many diffrent languages.

by the way:

of course this is without the accents and this is based on the way I speak.

inoa-name
(e-noha) like noha's ark)

E olelo hawaii iki wale no au- I only speak a little hawaiian
(eh-o-lea-low-hawaii-e-key-wah-lea-no-ow)ow is like (ow that hurts)

aloha kakahiaka-good morning
(ah-low-ha-ka-ka-he/key-ah ka)

try to say the pronouciations fast and thats how it sounds.
I love messing with people at work this way they would say I don't know what you're saying half of the time. it's soo cool of course omy sentencestructure may be off a bit.

I think hawaiian language is beautiful, it sounds so pleasant and sweet to hear. Kinda like French and Italian.

I agree thats why I like speaking japanese it rools right off of the tong.

my french is limited to only a few phrases I know more hawaiian than french and it's my third language.

haha..where'd dyou get all that hawaiian. when i was in high school the school offered us hawaiian, japanese, french, spanish, and limited german, and tagalog when i was in middle school. i didn't take it thought, because it's kinda stupid to relearn what i already knew, and it was only after school stuff. mostly ilocano girls and local born flips used it. and flip does not mean fu-king little island people, who ever made that malicious filipino wannabe/hating dalawapo believe that i means that then he is so stupid to believe it. to me ti's just short for filipino. and it is only weak people who get hurt off of something so little. something he's not even that.

Here's some piks of Hawaii. mad place :



native hawaiian?

that's hawaii. i just want to clarify my post here. when i said that hawaiians are only for hawaiians is just pretty simple. i mean when white or other ameircans say that they are native, o fthis country don't some native americans, amerindian, or indians, whatever your comfortable of, dont they get a little mad. it's understandable, when people who don't know your culture, or if you have other races saying that they are what you exclusively are, and reserve to your people doesn't that make you mad. it's like yo feel like yo are losing your identity right. it's just go for some hawaiians. so we call them. i feel no hate for whatever they feel because i understand them. and i hope you guys do too. do you guys know what paniolos are.

kinda like the aborigines in oz

hey aboriginals down there does many of them live in the modern australian settlements.

yeah but theyr usually like very poor. They live in housing commissions or something like that. Anyways, there are Aborgines though who live in their own land but it's usually very isolated and in the middle of nowhere. They have their own settlements there and some still practice the old traditional way of life.

have you ever dated one hehe.

Hawaiians are the native polynesians of hawaii.. but samoans, tongans, French Polynesians.. are inhabit their own islands...

Um...hhehe to tell you the truth, no. I mean I dont think Aborigines and Asians really get along well. I dont wanna sound racist but a lot of them are like trouble makers and usually drunks.

i don't think you can blame 'em. its the colonialistic problem, it happens to many aboriginal culture.

I just don't know the purpose of Kamehameha Schools. EVERYONE besides Hawaiian descent should be allowed to attend. The school is going extreme, it's like saying "this school is ONLY for this certain race"...

yeah it's quite racial, but if you look at it, the race we know as hawaiian is dying off. in my opinion. i mean that is why niihau is protected so bad. to me granting the hawaiians a certain ability that they can still call sovereignity could give them a bit more identity. it wont make them sovereigns and stop them from being eradicated as pure blood hawaiians, but hawaiians had a government and had a identity as a people even before the haoles came, so to me it's okay since they did own hawaii, and to take away the right of one people to exist even in identity is to me just not right.

do pure hawaiians really exist these days? really...

^ yes but no one is truly pure. most are how you say half bloded though.

not much, but there are some left. I mean my aunt, my uncle's ex girlfriend and my cousins mom is. She even speak Hawaiian to a moderate degree. HIans are cool, cool with Asians, I mean they pretty much grew up with them. Some of my friends are part, but still Hawaiian, and they love flip foods.

wait so was hawaii once a country itself? (sorry for my ignorance)

no man you're not ignorant, it's just the hawaiian kingdom was not really so globally popular until the us had really taken it over. the kingdom of hawaii was sovereign until the late eighteen hundreds, till american sugar plantation owners, and many other foreign peeps have decided that to save their assests it was to get hawaii sugar not to have import tax in us, since if it was part of one country then there is no such thing as importing cuz of course it's not from another country. well the us congress decided, similar in the texas case, not to annex it, initially knowing the "immorality" and the illegality of the claim of the coup leaders to take over the throne. but they're words to the coup leaders to give back sovereignity did not have any physical bakcing. later on when mckinley, teh same mckinley who wanted to "educate" the filipinos, it's like an old school white man thinking that all colored and poor countries need their education and guidance i mean i could understand the sincerity maybe of his pity, but why do people need to be helped unless you genuinely think that they are naturally not capable of doing it by themselves and that they are weak and incapable of hleping htemselves,

anyway going back to the subject, since the spanish american war the pi was a major let's grab it affair, and hawaii since it's half way to the pi, was decided to be taken over as a midway and stopover and halway house for it's now big asian empire. hawaii, even before valued for pearl harbor's strategic position was taken as a territory with the petition of "it's" goverment then headed by the american sugar plantation owners who headed the coup.

is it really a kingdom kingdom... i mean they arent rich were they? did they have a large armies and etc: or was it like a tribal leader of a island who proclaim a kingdom.

they had big armies, the wars they fouhgt were big. the only reason why it seems like hawaii have not much of a kingdom because the fact that it was plagued by european intervention and the fact that alot of them were wiped out by foreing disease. king kamehameha was the first king of the unified kingdom of hawaii, but ehre were head chiefs or kings of different islands. there were many other monarchs who followed him, but the last one was a queen. and yeah it was a kingdom much like european kingdoms were in many ways, especially the british had lots to do with their development. see the flag of hawaii.

Watch the movie Hawaii (the one in black and white) it tells a close to accurate story of Hawaii.

whoh cares about hawaii not me

"old school white man thinking that all colored and poor countries need their education and guidance i mean i could understand the sincerity maybe of his pity,"

no way, i think white ppl just pretend that the ppl of the past were ethnocentric and had "pity" ...its just another excuse to disguise the fact that they dint giva fuk bout no 1 but themselves........they just wanted $$ they had no fukn pity for no1....
so now they got this bull$hit history tellin us that the white ppl made a mistake by wanted to "help"....as if....theyre making excuses for their greediness.......

they dint wanna help NO1......there was NO sincerity in their hearts AT ALL....all they were doing was 2 help themselves......

sorry i got REALLY off topic....but i HAD to say it.....