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Titanium
http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/sierra/sovietjapan1939.htm

Battle of Halhin Gol was a 1939 military confronation between Imperial Japanese forces and Soviet forces under the famous Russian general Zhukov. Since Japan had occupied Manchuria and Korea at the time, she decided to get a little greedy and attempted to extend her military presence into Soviet Asian territory but was completely asswiped by the superior Russian forces. This battle proved in many ways that the Japanese would have never been able to confront the Western powers at any time and was a foreshadowing of inevitable Japanese doom. They clearly dominated other Asian countries due to the lack of modern weaponry but one land battle against a real modern Western power and they were decisively defeated. The Japanese couldn't even get past the Russian border.
Ino_II
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Their elite forces badly beaten, the Japanese withdrew, ending the undeclared war


pw3ned
Oyabun
QUOTE(Ino_II @ Nov 22 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]2504997[/snapback]

pw3ned



uh Japan horribly kicked Russia's @$$ well before wwII, so you can't say that Japan could never beat western forces.
grunt
QUOTE(Oyabun @ Nov 22 2006, 10:49 AM) [snapback]2505092[/snapback]

uh Japan horribly kicked Russia's @$$ well before wwII, so you can't say that Japan could never beat western forces.


True. Japan defeated Imperial Russia in 19th century in Manchuria. But, even that victory was so costly that i wouldn't put it in the same category as other historical victories ... if you look at the casualty records suffered by Japan at that time, it was more like a draw. Japanese forces were able to take the russian fortress because the russian general decided to retreat after their supply situation became critical. There are several factors contributing this massive casualty sustained by japan. One of the factors was lack of heavy weaponry for infantry. While Russians enjoyed the heavy weapon support from maxim machinegun, Japanese forces didn't really have that kind of firepower. (although japanese forces did have artillery support, of course) Also, the other problem (more significant problem) was the infantry tactics that was widely practiced in 19th century. Trench warfare and infantry charge. This type of tactics demanded enormous sacrifices from infantry men.

On the other hand, the naval battle between russia and japan was a complete victory for japanese navy. It was really the first meaningful victory of asian nation over western power. Winston Churcill even wrote in his book that he started to consider japan as equal to western power after this naval battle.

QUOTE(Titanium @ Nov 22 2006, 04:06 AM) [snapback]2504465[/snapback]

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/sierra/sovietjapan1939.htm

Battle of Halhin Gol was a 1939 military confronation between Imperial Japanese forces and Soviet forces under the famous Russian general Zhukov. Since Japan had occupied Manchuria and Korea at the time, she decided to get a little greedy and attempted to extend her military presence into Soviet Asian territory but was completely asswiped by the superior Russian forces. This battle proved in many ways that the Japanese would have never been able to confront the Western powers at any time and was a foreshadowing of inevitable Japanese doom. They clearly dominated other Asian countries due to the lack of modern weaponry but one land battle against a real modern Western power and they were decisively defeated. The Japanese couldn't even get past the Russian border.


Just shows that japanese staff was totally ignoring the ancient military maxim, 'Know thy enemy and know thyself.'. They couldn't seriously think they could beat russian forces at that time. If you just look at the armored forces of both army, you know who would win. While soviet had the largest and the most powerful armored corps in the world at that time, the armored forces of japanese army was rather pathetic. Jeeze, even Matilda tank (used around 40~42 era) had no problem with obliterating japanese 'new' tank in 1944.
enomosiki
QUOTE(grunt @ Nov 22 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]2505257[/snapback]
If you just look at the armored forces of both army, you know who would win. While soviet had the largest and the most powerful armored corps in the world at that time, the armored forces of japanese army was rather pathetic. Jeeze, even Matilda tank (used around 40~42 era) had no problem with obliterating japanese 'new' tank in 1944.


Japanese combat vehicles have been and still are pathetic to this date. You can, literally, shred the front armor of a Ha-go with a BAR at 500 yards, as well as the lightest Allied tanks in theatre of operation making cannon fodders out of Japanese medium tanks.

Provoking Russia was a really dumb thing to do.
Titanium
BEating Russia in the 19th century was not the same as beating Soviet Russia during WW2. The 1904-05 battle was naval confrontation which Japan was the victor for sure. But if the Japanese tried to pull an all out invasion of Russia the way she did China in 1939, she would have surely been PW3NED. The battle of Halhin Gol revealed that Japan was not capable of contending with any western power at the time. The reason they wanted to conquer China as quickly as possible was because they wanted/needed the human and natural resources China could provide. If all of Asia fell within Japanese control, a mobilization war effort against Russia would have been in Japanese favor but Japan couldn't even successful subjugate a very weak Asia. This battle proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Japan was not really a contender in world affairs and was inevitably doomed to failure. She was just a big fish in a small pond nothing more.
Ino_II
oh yeah, forgot about that naval battle icon_redface.gif
ryukyu magic
Could you explain the chart and the numbers they speak of in the article?

It says Japan's losses at 15,000 in the chart.

It says they suffered 80,000 casualties in the article.

And they sent divisional forces of 15,000 - 20,000 against 60,000 - 70,000 Soviets.



As much as I like wikipedia (Not very).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khalkhin_Gol

"Of the 30,000 troops on the Japanese side, 8,440 were killed and 8,766 wounded. The Red Army committed 57,000 infantry, 498 tanks, and 346 armored cars to the battle, and claimed total losses (killed and wounded) of 9,284 men. After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, new documents about the battle changed the numbers considerably. The actual number of casualties in the battle was 23,926, of whom 6,831 were killed, 1,143 reported missing and 15,952 wounded. While the Red Army did win the battle, it was not as one-sided a battle as previously believed."


Now looking at it, it was still a stalemate in the Russians favor but I wouldn't say the Japanese were pwned. The Russians were better but definately not superior. lol.

MING-LOYALIST
The Japanese could not have matched the Red army, just couldn't.

It lacked numbers, lacked air power and lacked heavy armour.

Only during the desparate days of battle of moscow could Japan hoped to have a minor chance of invading USSR but they decided to attack USA instead which was even dumber.
Chinese DesertFox
This battle isn't really "forgotten." But Japan took a fu-king beating from the Soviets.
kennyboy
the japanese army was rather pathetic true and their tanks suck......japanese war communication was too complicated too and their war plans was too complicated....

the Japanese navy was pretty d@mn good in the earlier stages of the war though.... their battleships were big as hell and had probably the best trained naval carrier force and naval aircraft too. japan was also near to churning out jet powered planes and bombers too....if their new jet bomber was in production and enough numbers....it would literally pound the crap out of the united states naval force/allied forces at will that were waiting to invade japan since it would be too high for any allied fighter to intercept.

japan also misused her deadly submarines when they had the lance torpedo...which was probably the best and deadliest one at the time of the war. instead they were used as cargo instead of using them as blowing the crap out of allied/united states cargo ships...that would of been much more annoying and effective to the allies.

japan even with a much weaker economy and manpower resources could of made the war much more interesting if it played its cards better.

Titanium

Either way if the point was if the Japanese attempted to invade further into Siberia they would have been crushed.
ryukyu magic
No, your point is to downplay the power of the Japanese Empire.

Of course they would've been crushed if they continued to try and invade lands where they were outnumbered 2 - 1. But the losses weren't one-sided. The Russians took a severe @$$-whipping as well just to hold them back. If more battles continued on like this one, the Russians might've come out on Top barely alive with most of her Nation dead. Which is just absolutely not worth going thru which is probably why they signed the Peace treaty/pact. If the Japanese had more numbers, they probably would've taken over the land.
Anda
Winners of Halhin Gol 1939 Battle.

Kommander 2nd G.M Schtern, Mongolian Marshal H. Choibalsan, Russian Commander G.K. Zhukov

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Mongolia fell into the Soviet sphere in 1921, with Soviet troops arriving as early as 1934 as advisors and trainers. In late 1939, the combined forces of Mongolia and the USSR pounded the Japanese along the border with Manchuria, at Khalkhyn Gol, inflicting around 80,000 casualties (against about 11,000 losses). This was under the guidance of Soviet general Georgi Zhukov, who would gain fame later.

Mongolia then stayed "neutral" until the Russians joined the war against Japan and then joined in. So, they had limited active service in the war after Khalkhyn Gol, but the Japanese weren't real interested in trying them on either. The Mongolian Army reached a strength of 80,000+ (about 10% of the population).

Khalkhyn Gol remains a big thing in Mongolian military history -- not too surprising when they beat up on the Japanese with such overwhelming casualties.
kaizen
QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Nov 29 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]2526710[/snapback]

No, your point is to downplay the power of the Japanese Empire.

Of course they would've been crushed if they continued to try and invade lands where they were outnumbered 2 - 1. But the losses weren't one-sided. The Russians took a severe @$$-whipping as well just to hold them back. If more battles continued on like this one, the Russians might've come out on Top barely alive with most of her Nation dead. Which is just absolutely not worth going thru which is probably why they signed the Peace treaty/pact. If the Japanese had more numbers, they probably would've taken over the land.

You don't understand a thing here. The Russians was already severely damaged by unexpected Nazi's advance on Eastern Front. Heavy casualty on Eastern Front including Stalingrad forced the entire Russian troops to move to the eastern front, yet the japanese army couldn't even go past Vladivostok.
Titanium
QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Nov 29 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]2526710[/snapback]

No, your point is to downplay the power of the Japanese Empire.

Of course they would've been crushed if they continued to try and invade lands where they were outnumbered 2 - 1. But the losses weren't one-sided. The Russians took a severe @$$-whipping as well just to hold them back. If more battles continued on like this one, the Russians might've come out on Top barely alive with most of her Nation dead. Which is just absolutely not worth going thru which is probably why they signed the Peace treaty/pact. If the Japanese had more numbers, they probably would've taken over the land.

Because the Japanese empire was not really anything compared to the real western powers at the time. Sorry but that is the truth. Keep in mind the russians were also busy dealing with the Nazis in the west. For them to to successfully defend two fronts was pretty amazing nonetheless. Since you like to bring up hypothetical scenarios, I can add one as well: If the Nazis never invaded and the Russians were able to concentrate a huge portion in the east, Japan would have surely been asswiped.

QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Nov 29 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]2526710[/snapback]

If the Japanese had more numbers, they probably would've taken over the land.


Pointless what if scenario. You might as well argue that if China wasn't so weak, the Japanese empire wouldn't have formed to begin with. What if Nazi Germany was already the size of the Soviet Union? What if America was only the size of England? Who cares about these hypothetical scenarios?
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Nov 29 2006, 05:45 PM) [snapback]2526710[/snapback]

No, your point is to downplay the power of the Japanese Empire.

Of course they would've been crushed if they continued to try and invade lands where they were outnumbered 2 - 1. But the losses weren't one-sided. The Russians took a severe @$$-whipping as well just to hold them back. If more battles continued on like this one, the Russians might've come out on Top barely alive with most of her Nation dead. Which is just absolutely not worth going thru which is probably why they signed the Peace treaty/pact. If the Japanese had more numbers, they probably would've taken over the land.

No one is downplaying the Japanese empire, however we need to face the truth which was Japan had a great navy probrably the best by 1941 however in terms of the army it was no match compared to German army or the red army.
You are clueless about the soviet army in the far east, before german invasion of russia there were 6 million troops, 5000 tanks and 4000 planes station near manchuria and mongolia there is no way could japan match that.

Japan should have finished the wars on its hands instead of keep expanding and bring on more enemies which ended up being completely defeated and lost everything.

Japan was also lucky that it was US who occupied Japan, they were like angels who civilized and democratized japan, if it was anyone else they would have surely made japan learn a hard lesson like the red army who gang raped more the 2 million german girls after rampaging through germany.
coreyahn

but then again germany almost gave russia the worst @$$ whooping of all time, during the early stages of the war. germany was also devastated by war and their forces was not as superior as the french, britian and russian but they did very well in the beggining. superior forces dont mean a thing if you dont know how to deal with it.
northwestern_student
that's because half of the russian forces were in the east to safeguard an invasion from japan.

also stalin was a total dumbass and killed off almost all the experienced officers in the days right before the invasion. also he refused to believe germany would invade so he left the entire border with germany undefended and unguarded. of course the germans found a easy way into russia in the beginning.
MING-LOYALIST
Japanese army was not near as good as the german army either, even the german army only enjoyed short term success and defeat was certain 1 year into the invasion of russia.
coreyahn
actually imperial army was infact respected by himmer, writing a book about japan and how he admired them. hitler also gave them respect and japan attacked usa becuase of germany. germany decided to return the honor by defending japan, a decision which adolf hitler would never do as his reputation. actually the most pathetic military would be the italian army. absolutely pathetic. benito mussolini is the stupiest guy ever. i cant believe hitler respected him.
kunomchu
do you really care how nazi germany felt about the imperial $hithead army? seriously
coreyahn
that $hithead army you call was in one of the worst conditions because of the great depression for your information. they went on to conqueor their neighboors and defeat the powehouse of europe england and france, which was the most toughest army. through smart tactics they went on to defeat both of them and qonquering states without military action. i think the german army went all the way to stalingrad and every world war 2 historian knows that russia was infact a done deal after their oil production went into the hands of the germans. i think that they were one of the greatest conquerors and superior military means brute force. i mean if you want to talk about pathetic army the italian army lead by mussolini was the most pathetic of all. and besides many koreans were in the top military ranks.
kaizen
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Nov 29 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]2527209[/snapback]

and besides many koreans were in the top military ranks.

You mean the koreans who served in japanese army?
coreyahn
yes the ones in the japanese army. like our president park chung he.
ryukyu magic
QUOTE(Titanium @ Nov 29 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]2527003[/snapback]

Because the Japanese empire was not really anything compared to the real western powers at the time. Sorry but that is the truth. Keep in mind the russians were also busy dealing with the Nazis in the west. For them to to successfully defend two fronts was pretty amazing nonetheless. Since you like to bring up hypothetical scenarios, I can add one as well: If the Nazis never invaded and the Russians were able to concentrate a huge portion in the east, Japan would have surely been asswiped.
Pointless what if scenario. You might as well argue that if China wasn't so weak, the Japanese empire wouldn't have formed to begin with. What if Nazi Germany was already the size of the Soviet Union? What if America was only the size of England? Who cares about these hypothetical scenarios?


Utter dribble, my hypothetical situation is only to demonstrate that Japan was no luck-tumbling-turdling who chanced upon success in WWII like you make them out to be. You only put down Japan's military might, Yes they are weaker and they lost but they were no push-over.
grunt
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Nov 29 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]2527142[/snapback]

actually imperial army was infact respected by himmer, writing a book about japan and how he admired them. hitler also gave them respect and japan attacked usa becuase of germany. germany decided to return the honor by defending japan, a decision which adolf hitler would never do as his reputation. actually the most pathetic military would be the italian army. absolutely pathetic. benito mussolini is the stupiest guy ever. i cant believe hitler respected him.


I don't know anything about that Hitler or Himmler paid respect to Japanese army, so i won't comment on it. But, I do have to point out your ... eh .... misunderstanding on the reason why Japanese decided to attack USA. I'm a bit shocked to see that there are some ppl who think Japanese attacked USA for Germany. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING!!! Ok, first thing first, when Japan launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbour in Dec, 1941, the German army was in a miserable situation facing the hordes of soviet army. Oh, yes, the summer/fall of 1941 was good time for the germany, but as soon as the rainy season started in late fall, the German advace was bogged down. and when the winter weather started to hit hard on the unprepared German forces, (yes, unprepared ... the German High Command was optimistic about conquering Soviet before the winter of 1941, so they didn't prepare proper winter clothing and supplies), a full-scale soviet counter-offensive was imminent.

Ok, here's the best part. The bulk of the soviet forces in this counter-offensive operation consisted of Siberian reserve army. and ... this Siberain divisions were only held in the far east area because of the possible Japanese aggression. But, we all know that the so-called Japanese ally decided to attack USA .... instead of USSR. Well, if Japan truly wanted to help Germany, then they should have directed their forces against USSR, not USA. Actually, i think Japanese didn't even need to attack the soviets ... but keep the military pressure in the region to prevent Siberian reserve forces from heading to the East front.

So, you see ... In this crucial moment (winter of 1941), the Japan really f**ked up the German war efforts. and when Japan declared war on USA, the German was very reluctant to declare was on USA. A lot of general staffs felt that it was premature to declare war on USA ... but Japan didn't give any choice in the matter. Actually, i know that many german politicans/generals felt dissent towards Japan because ... the Japan governemtn NEVER told the german about their plan to attack USA. well, i'm sure that the german read some sorts of signs that Japan 'might' take an action against USA ... but never had any detailed info about it.

As for the reason why Japanese attacked USA, they have their own reason ... but it's another story. But, this just shows your total misconception about 'friendly' alliance between Germany and Japan. In many ways, they didn't really give a $hit on each other, being busy with their own war ... icon_twisted.gif

gebook


considering the fact that the battle took place just several months before ww2 which at that time the soviets still had yet to gain access to better weaponry,tanks and planes and were less experienced and less organized compared to 1942-45, I think the japanese army wouldn't stand much of a chance had it decided to engage any major western powers in land battles.

Operation August Storm is a fine example of how the japanese army fared against the newly evolved red army.
Anda
QUOTE(gebook @ Dec 1 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]2532984[/snapback]


Operation August Storm is a fine example of how the japanese army fared against the newly evolved red army.


One should count that most of the officers in Red army were newly graduates.
Durinig the massive purge of Stalin in 1937, most commanding officers were executed - including Marshall Tuchachevskii, Blucher


K.G. Zhukov was almost unknown at that time. Khalkhin Gol-1939 was his first major battle, upstart to occupation of Berlin
Vitality
The Japanese were no pushovers. They may not have been equal to the other powers like the Soviets, Germans, or Americans, but they certainly were not a paper tiger. When they attacked the European colonies in SE Asia, they struck like lightning and handily defeated the British and French forces. Had they properly utilized their raw materials and resources in China and the rest of Asia, the Soviets would have been doomed considering they would have been attacked on two different fronts. An imperial Japan with Asian resources and manpower plus the Nazis knocking at your front door? Goodbye Stalin and good bye the US if they chose to intervene.
gebook
The british had a hard time in europe against germany, hell they didn't even have adequate air force to fend off the invading japanese army in SEA countries, they were hard hit in their home island, even most of RAFs were concentrated and transfered for defense in britain . In malaya the japanese had numerical air superiority over the RAF, 24 planes against 150+ jpn planes and 0 tank againts 200 jpn tanks it was pretty much a lop-sided battle, the japanese just merely took advantage of the unprepared british army (the main defense artilleries was facing to the south whereas the jpnese were coming from the north) .

yea it was humiliating defeat, but during the later part of the war, the british led army had japanese army defeated soundly and decisively whilst inflicting heavy casualties on japanese (Burma Campaign, Battle of Imphal, etc...)
Elysee
QUOTE(Vitality @ Dec 1 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]2533165[/snapback]

The Japanese were no pushovers. They may not have been equal to the other powers like the Soviets, Germans, or Americans, but they certainly were not a paper tiger. When they attacked the European colonies in SE Asia, they struck like lightning and handily defeated the British and French forces. Had they properly utilized their raw materials and resources in China and the rest of Asia, the Soviets would have been doomed considering they would have been attacked on two different fronts. An imperial Japan with Asian resources and manpower plus the Nazis knocking at your front door? Goodbye Stalin and good bye the US if they chose to intervene.


lol

Japan would be so fu-ked up beyond repair if they dare to attack the Soviet.

Even when the Red Army was in their toughest period did Japan's elite Force dare not to attack the USSR.

A Soviet battle veteran Armor division equipped with T34-85 and JS-2, would swept the entire Japanese land force into the sea.


The Japanese simpliy had nothing to hold back the red panzer flood. Actually not the German who had Tiger/KoenigTigers plus Panther piloted with ace tank crews were able to.

Japan is simply not prepared for a warfare like this.
Titanium
Killing unarmed Chinese peasants is not the same as taking on western modern armored cavalry.
coreyahn
same for the chinese. titaniuum

as for elyese japan was the first asian nation to defeat a white nation in military. and guess who the loser was, lol thats right soviet. soviet union's army is almost nothing, nazi military was so good they pushed russia all the way back to stalingrad and mosccow, they were getting their @$$ whooped. the only thing that stopped them was the winter storm and nothing else. but this coming from a chinese mouth of course disrespect would come. look at it both ways as a military, not what they have done. nazis were sure tyrants but they were one of the greatest conquerors.
Titanium
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

same for the chinese. titaniuum

Uh your statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

as for elyese japan was the first asian nation to defeat a white nation in military. and guess who the loser was, lol thats right soviet.


This was back in 1904, we're talking about the late 30's and 40's here. The battle of Halhin Gol was an example of Japan losing to a more powerful western military.

QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

soviet union's army is almost nothing,


Apparently the US didn;t think so otherwise they wouldn't have experimented with the atomic bombs to scare them off.

QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

nazi military was so good they pushed russia all the way back to stalingrad and mosccow, they were getting their @$$ whooped. the only thing that stopped them was the winter storm and nothing else.


We know the Nazis were capable of challenging the Soviet military. Nobody here has ever denied it so your statement proves nothing.

QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

but this coming from a chinese mouth of course disrespect would come.


And why would a Korean be defending Axis military actions? Was Korea not as much a victim of Japanese imperialism too?

QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 09:40 PM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

look at it both ways as a military, not what they have done. nazis were sure tyrants but they were one of the greatest conquerors.


Uhh we know......nobody can deny the power of the Nazi military machine despite how heinous they were. Do yourself a favor, next time you participate in an argument, try to at least bring up relevant points or use logic. It would help your cause very much.
Elysee
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 2 2006, 03:40 AM) [snapback]2533908[/snapback]

same for the chinese. titaniuum

as for elyese japan was the first asian nation to defeat a white nation in military. and guess who the loser was, lol thats right soviet. soviet union's army is almost nothing, nazi military was so good they pushed russia all the way back to stalingrad and mosccow, they were getting their @$$ whooped. the only thing that stopped them was the winter storm and nothing else. but this coming from a chinese mouth of course disrespect would come. look at it both ways as a military, not what they have done. nazis were sure tyrants but they were one of the greatest conquerors.


Japan never defeated CCCP, actually it got its @$$ kicked real hard during the forgotten war and that was the major reason it did not dare to invase the Soviet Union even it was at its toughest time.

Your lack of military knowledge is .... spectacular.

1st of all, the mighty force of German war machine did not only consist of Nazis.

Your statement is nothing but an insult to those who shed blood and died trying to defend their motherland, Stalingrad.

A self-labelled Korean who woships Japanese imperial army and Germany in the meantime....
interesting.


Vitality
In case you didn't know Coreyahn is the same troll as donhateboca or whatever the hell his SN is. He has two accounts and likes to troll with both of them so just ignore him.
coreyahn
as you know, many koreans were in the japanese imperial army and were high ranks too. like president park chung he. then why did the strong nazi as you call it yourself defend japan by going to war with us. koreans were victims of chinese too. many koreans in japan were murdered for no reason by the chinese. although this is stupid korean getting respected by japanese in the shrine is one of the funniest thing i have ever heard.
kunomchu
QUOTE(Vitality @ Dec 1 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]2533976[/snapback]

In case you didn't know Coreyahn is the same troll as donhateboca or whatever the hell his SN is. He has two accounts and likes to troll with both of them so just ignore him.


eh. icon_sad.gif
coreyahn
lol 4th and it says temp ban. shouldnt i win a award or something.
kunomchu
time for a ip ban! woot woot
Titanium
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 1 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]2533993[/snapback]

as you know, many koreans were in the japanese imperial army and were high ranks too. like president park chung he. then why did the strong nazi as you call it yourself defend japan by going to war with us. koreans were victims of chinese too. many koreans in japan were murdered for no reason by the chinese. although this is stupid korean getting respected by japanese in the shrine is one of the funniest thing i have ever heard.

Do me a huge favor would you please? Look up the word "Literacy" and try to understand what it means. Repeat it over and over again until you understand and then come back to debate here.
coreyahn
and look up war battles and study it. study it over and over again.
Elysee
文盲

哈哈哈哈 biggthumpup.gif
coreyahn
shi bal seiki. icon_smile.gif
Elysee
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 2 2006, 04:29 AM) [snapback]2534061[/snapback]

shi bal seiki. icon_smile.gif


시발세기, 너 한글 못해? 진짜 한국사람이야? Talktohand.gif


et en plus, ta mère elle était violée par une washingmachine, et c'est comme ça elle a eu un bébé, c'est pas très evident mais c'est vrai, c'est toi. Ton père il est une machine à laver.

お前の大脳の中には, 病気がある.......





coreyahn
nice job using a translation. you dont know how to type in korean, so all those no credit.
Elysee
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 2 2006, 05:03 AM) [snapback]2534211[/snapback]

nice job using a translation. you dont know how to type in korean, so all those no credit.


Believe it or not, that's what I typed, with Korean Input System (IME 2002)

An automatically generated translation would look like something like this.

Original English:

Hey you scumbag, can't type Korean? are you a real Korean?

Google Translation:

어이 당신은 scumbag, 한국사람을 타자를 칠 수 없는가? 당신은 진짜 한국사람인가?



coreyahn
your chinese, i seriously doubt you wrote that. and why do you have korean input system
Elysee
QUOTE(coreyahn @ Dec 2 2006, 05:18 AM) [snapback]2534243[/snapback]

your chinese, i seriously doubt you wrote that. and why do you have korean input system


Do you want me to film how I type and then upload it onto youtube?... Talktohand.gif

what's wrong with having korean input system, I got the Windows XP and had "East Asia Language" enabled.

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