QUOTE(Titanium @ Jan 19 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]2663081[/snapback]
The fact that Chinese emigration is a compounding factor to begin with is pretty absurd. It's the same kinda garbage that psychos like Pat Buchanan use to ostracize foreign immigrants in America, Asians included. Then again I'm not surprised you share the same mentality as that man. Also I'm not distorting anything, it was you that claimed China used abuse and mistreatment of ethnic minorities as justification for invasion in the past, it was you that claimed China would annex territories that were demographically favorable to them. Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia all fit the description. It's amusing how you try to back peddle out of these examples by pointing out obvious differences (sharing borders) yet completely ignore the valid similarities for comparison. Hey I'm not the one who used such absurd logic to begin with so before you accuse me of distorting your logic, maybe it is you who need to understand what kind of logic you are creating to begin with.
As I've said, Chinese emigration is a compounding factor. For example, in case of Vietnam, mistreatment of ethnic Chinese merely served as an excuse - a justification - to an invasion that had other political motives. Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia do not fit the description at all, as they don't have these other compounding factors. Chinese emigration isn't a national security threat in itself, but because this can be taken advantage of for a greater purpose, e.g. justification of control over RFE, it becomes a national security concern.
And Russians are the ones who came up with this "logic". I'm merely expressing my consensus in their national security concerns.
BTW Korea has no relevance to this topic whatsoever. I don't know what kind of drugs you're using but it sure as hell is working. How does Chinese emigration to the RFE have anything to do with Korea? You simply love to include Korea to fit your agenda. Somehow every topic relating to China, even Chinese emigration to the RFE has to do with your beloved country. Last time I checked, there was no drastic Chinese emigration to the Korean peninsula so please just can it.
Because it concerns the same threat - China. Not to mention Korea's pretty close to RFE. There wasn't Chinese emigration to Korea, but China has been integrating North Korea economically, and also it has been fabricating history of every ancient kingdoms that was located north of the Han river(Seoul). If China wasn't the "big bad evil China", this wouldn't concern us too much. But we're talking about a country that has conquered independent states and used similar methods and justifications to legitimize and strengthen their control over the "autonomous" provinces. And considering that China attempted to annex Mongolia as well, only to be pushed out by Mongolians and Russians, I think Mongolians should be concerned about this matter as well.
I think overall, this is a pretty good analysis:
In December 2005, Russia's interior minister, Rashid Nurgaliev, stated that illegal immigration is creating a threat to national security in the Russian Far East. Although Nurgaliev did not mention the word "Chinese," and in spite of frequent formal statements contradicting such a development, a continuous influx of illegal Chinese immigrants is taking place in this region. Russia has a long border with China, some 4,300 kilometers (2,672 miles), and is sparsely populated in its Far East. The numbers may vary but sources mention a flood of thousands of Chinese entering Russia, up to allegedly 600,000 per year.
It is not inconceivable that this flood is more than a coincidence; in fact, it might well be a planned policy directed from Beijing. Possibly, China is carrying out a policy of "Finlandization" in order to gradually increase its influence over this Russian region. The reasons for such a population policy might be to create an overflow area for Chinese citizens from densely populated areas in China proper, and also to gain a political and/or economic foothold in this area, which is rich in energy resources.
Russia is well aware that China's growing economic and military importance could develop into a threat. An indication of Russia's concern toward China could be in Moscow's alleged creation of a second joint military grouping of defense forces and internal and security troops. In contrast with the areas of Chechnya and Dagestan, in Russia's Far East there is no threat of Islamic extremism and the formation of a joint military command could only be related to a potential threat from China. In due course, the so far hidden fear of China could cause Russia to draw back from China and to seek an intensification of political and economic ties with the West, even if this abandonment from China would mean that Russia has to accept Western influence in its backyard of the former Soviet Union.http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_rep...p;language_id=1
QUOTE(feiying @ Jan 19 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]2663084[/snapback]
^^Then why do Koreans whine when China deports North Korean 'refugees' back to their homeland? China is doing the same thing on the pretense that those 'refugees' are the moving vanguard trying to 'reclaim' China's northeast as their 'Koguryo or Greater Korean empire.' We all know the truth. This hypocrisy going on.
I believe those Koreans will stop whining if China starts cooperating with South Korea like Vietnam and Mongolia to help those North Korean refugees make their way into South Korea.