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dalawapo
Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif
Grandmaster C
don't mention it.
kristleh_II
uhhh okay. dalawapo, you're the best talaga. hahaha icon_wink.gif
Balot
WTF... what the hell... eek.gif
Aranadhel
yes, dalawapo we appreciate it vary much to. beerchug.gif
Bhaskara
Yes, I love u vary much too, dalawapo!I love ur singkil and tiniklik and barong tagalog and jollibee....ang kababayan, isang libo't isang tuwa buong bansa...(random ranting)
peculiar-alien
QUOTE(dalawapo @ Dec 2 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]2536279[/snapback]

Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif


can u go to this forum : http://www.mtvasia.com/ubbthreads2/showfla...o=&fpart=45

and shut up those Filipino mouth..because they starts to be racist to us...
kristleh_II
QUOTE(peculiar-alien @ Dec 4 2006, 09:52 PM) [snapback]2540818[/snapback]

can u go to this forum : http://www.mtvasia.com/ubbthreads2/showfla...o=&fpart=45

and shut up those Filipino mouth..because they starts to be racist to us...


You should shut your mouth as well. embarassedlaugh.gif Racists can be found in any ethnic group and it's because of ignorance. And you should stop generalizing. Opinions of a small number of Filipinos do not reflect the opinion of the whole population. And stop crying like there's no Indonesian on this planet who expressed racist attitude towards us or any other ethnic group. sure.gif

Don't be so brave just because you can hide behind your computer. Talktohand.gif





purnomor
QUOTE(dalawapo @ Dec 2 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]2536279[/snapback]

Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif


beerchug.gif beerchug.gif
Rocky Cuong V
QUOTE(dalawapo @ Dec 3 2006, 09:05 AM) [snapback]2536279[/snapback]

Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif

Stop trying to suck up. This isn't how you should approach and ask an Indonesian guy out Tony.
GluTTony
QUOTE(dalawapo @ Dec 3 2006, 06:05 AM) [snapback]2536279[/snapback]

Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif


I Love the Pinoys here there the nicest in cyberspace biggthumpup.gif thanks

unlike in Skyscrapercity last time when it was Jakarta Vs Metro Manila icon_twisted.gif it got locked and deleted
haqine
^Thank you !!
e_vaholic
...never mind...
you know,,indonesians are best friends for everyone..hehehe..
Bohemian
QUOTE(dalawapo @ Dec 2 2006, 11:05 PM) [snapback]2536279[/snapback]

Hellow Indonesia!

I want to say to you that your so wonderful. Did you know that I believe you are the mother of many things for Martime SoutheastAsia? Its true! your culture is touched surrounding islands and bless us with great and wonderful gifts like a keris and martial arts for the filipines. I want to thank you for every gift that my mother gave to me. My favorite gift of all is your nearness as my neighboor you always a few islands away, so im reaching out to you now!!!! I always will remember your contribution to my country even if its so ancient. I love you vary much and thanks to the 10 bornean (Kalimantan) datus who leeve indonesia and settle in the filiipnes. And now iam your grown up son and i will take care of you and i wish you will take care of me as well like we are one BIG family once again united!

Love,

Filipines love2.gif love2.gif


I don't get your point, btw. Did you mean it ironically? To me, your text sound a bit suspicious.
peculiar-alien
QUOTE(kristleh_II @ Dec 4 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]2540947[/snapback]

You should shut your mouth as well. embarassedlaugh.gif Racists can be found in any ethnic group and it's because of ignorance. And you should stop generalizing. Opinions of a small number of Filipinos do not reflect the opinion of the whole population. And stop crying like there's no Indonesian on this planet who expressed racist attitude towards us or any other ethnic group. sure.gif

Don't be so brave just because you can hide behind your computer. Talktohand.gif


hey..i didnt generalize it...i said Fil in that forum....i have family from Fil and she's nice...
okay, racist people r everywhere...but can u keep silence if u find them expressing racist toward other peeps? i cant believe u can.....i just wanna show those Fils in that forum that there is Fil who appreciate us....and maybe some advices from same nation friends will make them realize......
and easy, i will not generalize Filipinos as a bad temper and harsh people just because u reflect me that way....
i just cant stand racist people and at least i take an action......
furansizuka
pfff..... laugh.gif
peculiar-alien
laugh at me or what?
furansizuka
QUOTE(peculiar-alien @ Dec 8 2006, 07:09 AM) [snapback]2551604[/snapback]

laugh at me or what?

laugh at what peeps did di forum mtv laugh.gif
peculiar-alien
iye ye..kok tu forum jadi pindah kesini ye?
GluTTony
^^ are you in that Forum?
furansizuka
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Dec 12 2006, 07:39 AM) [snapback]2563422[/snapback]

^^ are you in that Forum?

yes he is. that's not a good forum anymore. was happened to be a great one but now it's full of crap.
Aranadhel
fur is dat you in the pix?
purnomor
QUOTE(furansizuka @ Dec 12 2006, 07:38 AM) [snapback]2563506[/snapback]

yes he is. that's not a good forum anymore. was happened to be a great one but now it's full of crap.


Let's keep this forum up to standards beerchug.gif
Najjiah
bahasa indonesia has influenced more than just philippines, new zealand, micronesia, and polynesia. indonesian words & indo looking people can also be found in madagascar, a tropical island in africa facing the indian ocean.



http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/8908/firemo...stroframes.html



i too, am a great admirer of indonesian culture & language. i do indeed feel that indonesia is the mother of all malay & austronesian races. beerchug.gif





tangawizi
Where are u now Najjah? In Madagascar???
Najjiah
QUOTE(tangawizi @ Dec 14 2006, 11:23 AM) [snapback]2570171[/snapback]
Where are u now Najjah? In Madagascar???


lol no im back in la. i already miss indonesia & the weather. icon_sad.gif



madagascar is a destination id like to go to. also easter island. basically any austronesian country/island. lately i have been reading about flores, indonesia... the portuguese side of indo. wow! it really IS diverse.

Bhaskara
I have a really good friend from Flores, her name is Maria. But now that both of us have already graduated, we went seperat ways. I missed her... icon_sad.gif
Next time u visit Indonesia, be sure to visit me, Najjiah!
Najjiah
QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Dec 15 2006, 01:14 AM) [snapback]2572227[/snapback]
I have a really good friend from Flores, her name is Maria. But now that both of us have already graduated, we went seperat ways. I missed her... icon_sad.gif
Next time u visit Indonesia, be sure to visit me, Najjiah!
sure thing. i prolly will go to denpasar for the dewa concert, if not lombok. are u in jakarta, bhaskara?
Bhaskara
Wow, u seem to be very rich, u want to go to a concert, and then just in a snap, u went abroad!!Wow....
Nah, I'm in Bandung, about 3 hours drive from Jakarta.
Kanlungan
It's been what, n years and he can't spell Philippines properly.
GluTTony
the "P" in the Philippines is tricky icon_confused.gif sometimes I right it Philipines..
Kanlungan
I'm referring to dalawapo.

he frequents in the Filipino chat, he still can't spell it properly.
purnomor
Three young Filipinos express their intense admiration and appreciation of Indonesia:

QUOTE
Lessons from Indonesia


Text and Photos by CHARISSA M. LUCI

After three months of socio-cultural immersion in the world’s largest archipelago, three young Filipino artists have come back and have pledged to be instruments to promote Philippine-Indonesian culture and arts among young people.

Julius, Ferlan, and Joy were among the Filipino scholars who participated in this year’s Indonesian Arts and Culture Scholarship Program along with 37 other young artists aged 21-33 from 18 countries in Asia and the Pacific including Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Malaysia, Timor Leste, Fiji, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, India, Papua New Guinea, China, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea.


They learned how to dance like the Javanese, play musical instruments and sing like the Sundanese, paint and carve like the Balinese, and make Indonesian batik following the month-long immersion stint at Muslim state’s cultural centers located in Solo, Bandung, and Bali.

"They performed our art and culture blended with their own cultures with the end results — new innovation and creation. This is the spirit of the cultural exchange and this is the aim of this program," Indonesian Foreign Affairs Minister Hassan Wirayuda said keynoting the closing ceremonies of the 2006 Indonesian Arts and Culture Scholarship Program with the theme "Indonesia Channel: Bridging Asia and the Pacific."

Wirayuda said the Indonesian government has long been committed to be the power to connect and bridge nations including Asia and the Pacific region. "However, the Indonesia Channel is not merely about arts and cultures. The Indonesia Channel may serve as the means of politics as well as a conflict resolution," he said, citing his government’s share in addressing conflict in Mindanao. During the ceremonies, the foreign minister also took the opportunity to thank the 40 students and their parents for being part of the Indonesia Channel. "You are and will always be a part of Indonesia and Indonesia is and will always be a part of you too," Wirayuda said.

Since 2003, the Indonesian government has invited 120 youths from 22 countries to participate in the program highlighting the constructive power of Indonesia in establishing and bridging the relationship among nations and states.

Also intertwined with the Indonesian Arts and Culture Scholarship Program is the "first-ever" Journalists’ Visit Program where 19 journalists from member-countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) plus three, which include China, Japan and Korea; of the Southwest Pacific Dialogue (SWPD), Pacific Islands Forum (PIF), and the East Asia Community (EAC) converged at the Muslim state of about 210 million people in early December. The visiting journalists also went to three Indonesian cultural centers in Solo, Bandung, and Bali where they met their compatriots and at the same time familiarize themselves with Indonesian culture and arts.

DETERIORATING CULTURE

Julius Daep, a native of Bicol who stayed at the 200-year-old art center in Solo called Semarak Candrakirana, said the program had let him realize that most Filipinos have a shallow understanding of our their culture and arts. He lamented that because of ignorance, our culture has long been distorted.

"Alam natin lahat na nagdedeteriorate ang cultural system natin kaya hindi tayo naggrow kasi hindi natin kilala kung sino tayo. Matatalino tayong mga Pilipino pero bobo tayo pagdating sa kung sino tayo (We all know that our cultural system has been deteriorating and that’s why we don’t grow [as nation.] We Filipinos are brilliant people but we are not sensible on who we really are)," said 24-year-old Julius, a dance performer since age seven.

At 12, Julius left his family in Sorsogon to study at the Philippine High School for the Arts, the country’s only arts school located in Mt. Makiling, Laguna. There he spent four years to familiarize himself with the country’s traditional dances. Now a lecturer at the University of the Philippines in Los Baños, Laguna, Julius pointed out that Filipinos could never appreciate their own culture if we they do not have a deep understanding of it.

"The Philippines is much more rich in terms of arts and culture but because of the lack of education, we cannot appreciate it or worse, we laugh at it. Unlike in Indonesia, as young as two years old, they are already very proud of their culture," he said.

The cycle of cultural enrichment starts from parents to children, from teachers to students, and from government to its people, Julius said. Ferlan also certified that the "promotion of the culture should start within the family, from childhood to adulthood," citing the Balinese culture which encourages sending of children to arts and culture schools at an early age.

"In Balinese culture, the training on arts and culture starts very early. I met children performing a traditional dance at the age of four or five," he said.

Julius stressed that Filipinos’ ignorance of culture and arts stemmed from their lack of education about culture, which unfortunately leads to disrespecting it.

"Every time na magsasayaw ako sa school na nakabahag, hindi palakpak ang maririnig kundi tawa mula sa bata. Hindi sila tumatawa dahil sa natutuwa sila, tumatawa sila kasi nahihiya sila sa yo dahil nakakatawa ka," Julius lamented.

For his part, Ferlan Farinas, 20, of Tapaz, Capiz, said that in the heels of modernization, Filipinos tend to forget the past, making our culture not too visible and weak.

"Only some Filipinos, mostly artists and local ethnic groups, possess the sense of appreciation and pride towards our culture," he pointed out. Ferlan, a senior Political Science major student at UP-Miagao in Iloilo, expressed his admiration for Indonesians for having a strong cultural grip, which Filipinos should exemplify.

"I am very amazed that Indonesians are very proud of themselves, very proud of their country. Why, we Filipinos are not proud of ourselves? Why do we prefer other cultures to ours? Our mindset is very modern (individualistic) and we end up as a community without understanding of its own culture and who prefer other cultures than its own," he asked.

His stay at Taman Sari in Bali, Ferlan recognized the richness of Indonesian culture, particularly the Balinese and the "people possess a sense of appreciation and pride of their own culture."

Riza Joy Canabo, also a graduating student with double degrees in History and Psychology at the UP-Miagao, Iloilo, agreed that Filipinos lack of cultural and historical sense, as she noted Indonesians’ cultural pride.

"In Indonesia, they even have a number of television programs depicting their rich culture," she observed. Joy was among the foreign culture and arts scholar sent to Saung Udjo in Bandung, considered as Indonesia’s shopping district and city of fashion. She learned to play Sudanese musical instruments, such as angklung, arumba, karawitan, and suling. She also learned the Sudanese traditional karate called pencak silat, tari (traditional dance for common people), anyaman (handicraft making) and even played traditional games and cooked Sudanese foods.


A CULTURE OF NOBILITY

The three scholars have observed that Indonesian and Philippine culture are similar in essence but different in manifestations in terms of music and dance.

"They dance from the heart just like us and their dance has spiritual connections, which is very dominant in our folk dance. In terms of music. But we’re using different musical instruments and our manner of playing is also different," Julius remarked.

To prove his point, Julius cited that Bandung’s Pencak Silat is a replica of Kunato Silat, a traditional dance espoused by the Maguindanaos, while the royal dances in Solo have the same styles just like the Maranao dances as well as the Pangalay of the Yakans and Basilan’s Sama di Laut. Javanese dance and music were influenced by the royalty, making them very noble compared to Balinese and Sudanese, Daep shared.

"All the movements come from within. You really need to concentrate. You really cannot play while in class otherwise you’ll be left behind," he said, noting that their instructors are dancers of the palaces. He said the Javanese dancers don’t dance for their audience, because for them, dance is a form of self-meditation.

Called the Spirit of Java, the city of Solo teems with batik shops and century-old palaces, such as Mangkunegaran and Kasunanan, which remain as homes of Prince Mangkunegoro and King Paku Buwono, respectively. Kasunanan palace annually holds a traditional dance where seven virgin ladies dance for two hours straight before the royalties, he said.


LOVE YOUR OWN

Asked if they encountered difficulties in adapting to A foreign culture, Julius, Ferlan and Joy chorused that Filipinos could easily adapt to different cultures, citing our flexibility that enables us to move around the globe.

"We are being looked up to for our sensitivity and respect for others’ cultures," Joy said, adding that most of his fellow participants admire Filipino performers and President Arroyo. "Mas masarap pa ring maging Pinoy," the 20-year-lass from Banga, Aklan said.

Ferlan said the ceaseless support of their teachers and the DFA personnel made their stay easy, but was quick to admit that he had a difficulty adjusting to the taste of Indonesian food, which he said were very spicy and hot.

For his part, Julius said through the scholarship program, he found the greatest love of all — that is to really love yourself, love your own. He pointed out that the promotion of own culture started within ourselves.

After the program, three Filipino scholars are challenged "to bring the Philippines back to the map of the world as one of the countries with dynamic culture." Persistent to enliven the Philippine culture and arts, Julius planned to launch the first leg of his tourism project dubbed "Palawan: The Island of Philippine Arts and Culture" in July 2007.

"Five years from now, I want Palawan to be the mecca of Philippine arts and traditions, just like Bali, who has been Indonesia’s favorite tourist destination. I want this to become my life-long project because I want to revive the rich and vibrant Philippine culture," he said with much confidence and vision.

But, he admitted the project needs funding to be pushed through and support of the concerned authorities. "I don’t have the resources. I just have the zeal and knowledge to engage myself in this endeavor," he said.

"We need to give the future generations a sense of identity, a pride that they are Filipinos," Ferlan added, calling fellow youth to take lead role in promoting Filipino culture.

Julius, Ferlan, and Joy said there is so much hope for the Filipino culture to be redeemed by the youth, but they must be backed up by the elders, particularly the concerned authorities. With much faith in Filipino-Indonesian cultures, Julius, Ferlan, and Joy are now more than ready to build the Filipino-Indonesian channel.

purnomor
QUOTE(Najjiah @ Dec 14 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]2569945[/snapback]

bahasa indonesia has influenced more than just philippines, new zealand, micronesia, and polynesia. indonesian words & indo looking people can also be found in madagascar, a tropical island in africa facing the indian ocean.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/8908/firemo...stroframes.html
i too, am a great admirer of indonesian culture & language. i do indeed feel that indonesia is the mother of all malay & austronesian races. beerchug.gif


Three cheers for Filipino-Indonesian Friendship beerchug.gif beerchug.gif beerchug.gif
Bhaskara
What a nice article, purrie!
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