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rahul1000
WASHINGTON (Dec. 1) -- When radio host Jerry Klein suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band, the phone lines jammed instantly.

The first caller to the station in Washington said that Klein must be "off his rocker." The second congratulated him and added: "Not only do you tattoo them in the middle of their forehead but you ship them out of this country ... they are here to kill us."

Another said that tattoos, armbands and other identifying markers such as crescent marks on driver's licenses, passports and birth certificates did not go far enough. "What good is identifying them?" he asked. "You have to set up encampments like during World War Two with the Japanese and Germans."

At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of "the threat in our midst" would alleviate the public's fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America.

"I can't believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said," he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

"For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people's bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver's license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It's beyond disgusting.

"Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen ... We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous."

The show aired on November 26, the Sunday after the Thanksgiving holiday, and Klein said in an interview afterwards he had been surprised by the response.

"The switchboard went from empty to totally jammed within minutes," said Klein. "There were plenty of callers angry with me, but there were plenty who agreed."


Polls Show Widespread Anti-Muslim Sentiment

Those in agreement are not a fringe minority: A Gallup poll this summer of more than 1,000 Americans showed that 39 percent were in favor of requiring Muslims in the United States, including American citizens, to carry special identification.

Roughly a quarter of those polled said they would not want to live next door to a Muslim and a third thought that Muslims in the United States sympathized with al Qaeda, the extremist group behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

A poll carried out by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group, found that for one in three Americans, the word Islam triggers negative connotations such as "war," "hatred" and "terrorist." The war in Iraq has contributed to such perceptions.

Klein's show followed a week of heated discussions on talk radio, including his own, and online forums over an incident on November 22 involving six Muslim clerics. They were handcuffed and taken off a US Airways flight after passengers reported "suspicious behavior" that included praying in the departure gate area.

The clerics, on their way to a meeting of the North American Imams Federation, were detained in a holding cell, questioned by police and FBI agents, and released. Muslim community leaders saw the incident as yet more evidence of anti-Muslim prejudice.

Ignorance Seen as Key Problem

Several American Muslims interviewed on the subject of prejudice over the past few weeks said ignorance was at the core of the problem.

"The level of knowledge is very, very low," said Mohamed Esa, a U.S. Muslim of Arab descent who teaches a course on Islam at McDaniel College in Maryland. "There are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and some people think they are all terrorists."

Hossam Ahmed, a retired Air Force Reserve colonel who occasionally leads prayer meetings for the small Muslim congregation at the Pentagon, agreed. "Ignorance is the number one problem. Education is of the essence."

There are no hard figures on how many Muslims have been subject to harassment or prejudice and community leaders say that ugly incidents can prompt spontaneous expressions of support. Such as the e-mail a Minneapolis woman sent to CAIR after the imams were taken off their flight.

"I would like to ... help," the e-mail said. "While I cannot offer plane tickets, I would be happy to drive at least 2 or 3 of them. My car is small, but at least some of our hearts in this land of the free are large."

And optimists saw signs of change in the November 4 election of the first Muslim to the U.S. House of Representatives, which has 435 members.

Democrat Keith Ellison, a 43-year-old African-American lawyer, did not stress his religion during his campaign for a Minnesota seat, but said his victory would "signal to people who are not Muslims that Muslims have a lot to offer to the United States and the improvement of our country."

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I know lots of people are gonna be pissed at me for saying this, but I honestly also am pretty scared of Islam in general and Muslims as well, being perfectly honest here. I feel that even though so many Muslims here adamantly denounce extremism, Al Queda etc, I also feel that they somewhat deep inside support them as well but of course are too afraid to say it, just like this story shows many Americans are afraid of Islam but of course don't want to say it out loud. Islam really does scare me. Sorry to have pissed off so many Muslims now. Lets just hope the extremism dies down and Islam becomes a much more moderate religion than it is now just like how aggressive Christianity was long ago. icon_neutral.gif
northwestern_student
why should people be pissed? you are who you are and you believe what you believe.

for example i believe all japanese people are evil and like to have sex with oversized blue-haired large-eyed pin up dolls
rahul1000
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Dec 2 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]2536862[/snapback]

for example i believe all japanese people are evil and like to have sex with blue-haired large-eyed pin up dolls


LOL. If thats what you beleive, thats cool, as long as your fully honest. laugh.gif
Its just strange at how so many wapanese idolize the Japanese, completely ignoring all the atrocoties they did and how so many Chinese/Koreans virurently hate them with such a passion but if my country was raped by the Japanese, I'd probably still hate them as well.
radha_chopra112
QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Dec 3 2006, 12:00 AM) [snapback]2536869[/snapback]

LOL. If thats what you beleive, thats cool, as long as your fully honest. laugh.gif
Its just strange at how so many wapanese idolize the Japanese, completely ignoring all the atrocoties they did and how so many Chinese/Koreans virurently hate them with such a passion but if my country was raped by the Japanese, I'd probably still hate them as well.


Um aren't you a Japanophile? sure.gif

Japanophile
tinman01
I read somewhere that 1 reason most polls are not accurate is because the majority of people who take the time to answer the surveys are dysfunctionals. I don't know if that's true or not. I myself never take the time to answer phone surveys, nor do I waste my time calling into radio shows. Right now Muslims are taking some serious heat for the actions of the extremists in the middle east and due to the fact that even the ones here in the west to date have refused to publicly condemn those actions.
I don't fear nor do I condemn the religion. I do condemn those who would target and murder civilian targets.
rahul1000
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Dec 3 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]2536956[/snapback]

Um aren't you a Japanophile? sure.gif

Japanophile


Not at all, I know it may seem like it, but I really am not. YOU HAVE TO BELEIVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, I'm actually becoming more of a Chinophile, but thats very little, I'm in reality a huge laptopophile/notebookophile.
Jagger
QUOTE(radha_chopra112 @ Dec 3 2006, 04:41 AM) [snapback]2536956[/snapback]

Um aren't you a Japanophile? sure.gif

Japanophile

I'm also a Japanophile.

QUOTE(tinman01 @ Dec 3 2006, 02:29 PM) [snapback]2537814[/snapback]

I read somewhere that 1 reason most polls are not accurate is because the majority of people who take the time to answer the surveys are dysfunctionals. I don't know if that's true or not. I myself never take the time to answer phone surveys, nor do I waste my time calling into radio shows. Right now Muslims are taking some serious heat for the actions of the extremists in the middle east and due to the fact that even the ones here in the west to date have refused to publicly condemn those actions.
I don't fear nor do I condemn the religion. I do condemn those who would target and murder civilian targets.

Not sure about the US, but plenty of Muslims in the UK have publicly condemned those actions.

QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Dec 3 2006, 03:37 AM) [snapback]2536843[/snapback]

I know lots of people are gonna be pissed at me for saying this, but I honestly also am pretty scared of Islam in general and Muslims as well, being perfectly honest here. I feel that even though so many Muslims here adamantly denounce extremism, Al Queda etc, I also feel that they somewhat deep inside support them as well but of course are too afraid to say it, just like this story shows many Americans are afraid of Islam but of course don't want to say it out loud. Islam really does scare me. Sorry to have pissed off so many Muslims now. Lets just hope the extremism dies down and Islam becomes a much more moderate religion than it is now just like how aggressive Christianity was long ago. icon_neutral.gif

I secretly support terrorism too. Die all of you white-washed (and Japanophile) infidels! icon_twisted.gif
cherry_tree
QUOTE(Jagger @ Dec 3 2006, 12:16 PM) [snapback]2537970[/snapback]

I'm also a Japanophile.

me too. icon_wink.gif sure.gif
Suijen
QUOTE(tinman01 @ Dec 3 2006, 07:29 AM) [snapback]2537814[/snapback]

I read somewhere that 1 reason most polls are not accurate is because the majority of people who take the time to answer the surveys are dysfunctionals. I don't know if that's true or not. I myself never take the time to answer phone surveys, nor do I waste my time calling into radio shows. Right now Muslims are taking some serious heat for the actions of the extremists in the middle east and due to the fact that even the ones here in the west to date have refused to publicly condemn those actions.
I don't fear nor do I condemn the religion. I do condemn those who would target and murder civilian targets.


I agree with this statement 100%. Terrorists use Islam to justify their actions and to try to align themselves with Muslims. When we Americans fall for that trap, we alienate the other 99.99999% of Muslims who aren't terrorists.
tinman01
QUOTE(Suijen @ Dec 3 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]2538032[/snapback]

I agree with this statement 100%. Terrorists use Islam to justify their actions and to try to align themselves with Muslims. When we Americans fall for that trap, we alienate the other 99.99999% of Muslims who aren't terrorists.

Well said and in this is the real damage that they do. This mistrust prevents us from being willing and open minded enough to hear what the 99.9% of the muslims really have to say. This then leads to discrimination, and at times misdirected anger and retaliation. What follows is a break down in any chance to understand each other. Imagine if you had to first defend your religion before any further dialog could take place? Now that would suck.
Kiss_the_Girls
QUOTE(Jagger @ Dec 4 2006, 01:46 AM) [snapback]2537970[/snapback]


Not sure about the US, but plenty of Muslims in the UK have publicly condemned those actions.


I would like to see those living in Predominantly-Islamic nations to do more of that.
Jagger
QUOTE(Suijen @ Dec 3 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]2538032[/snapback]

I agree with this statement 100%. Terrorists use Islam to justify their actions and to try to align themselves with Muslims. When we Americans fall for that trap, we alienate the other 99.99999% of Muslims who aren't terrorists.

QUOTE(tinman01 @ Dec 4 2006, 12:16 AM) [snapback]2538983[/snapback]

Well said and in this is the real damage that they do. This mistrust prevents us from being willing and open minded enough to hear what the 99.9% of the muslims really have to say. This then leads to discrimination, and at times misdirected anger and retaliation. What follows is a break down in any chance to understand each other. Imagine if you had to first defend your religion before any further dialog could take place? Now that would suck.

Agreed. Furthermore, if more Westerners become Islamophobic, then it would also have a reverse effect: more Muslims will become anti-Western. In other words, this would only lead to Islamic extremists succeeding in creating a divide between Muslims and Westerners.

QUOTE(Kiss_the_Girls @ Dec 4 2006, 12:38 AM) [snapback]2539056[/snapback]

I would like to see those living in Predominantly-Islamic nations to do more of that.

Many Muslim groups and Islamic nations have already condemned terrorist attacks:

Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks
Jasel
There are alot of stupid, and even more ignorant, people in this country.
tinman01
QUOTE(Jasel @ Dec 3 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]2539593[/snapback]

There are alot of stupid, and even more ignorant, people in this country.

I believe ignorance to be a universally human traight. No matter where you go it thrives. But you are indeed correct this country has more than its share of idiots.
Suijen
QUOTE(tinman01 @ Dec 3 2006, 09:39 PM) [snapback]2539736[/snapback]

I believe ignorance to be a universally human traight. No matter where you go it thrives. But you are indeed correct this country has more than its share of idiots.


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Agreed.
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